Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
PennyShilling
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 14:52:00 -
[1] - Quote
how about when the incursion reaches 0% infulence, the sites stop respawning and the Kundalini goes into withdrawing phase thus forcing people to kill it, this will take away the site farming and inflation we are seeing and also encourage more contest fleets and the sites will become a limited resource and not something you can farm for days on end |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
234
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 15:10:00 -
[2] - Quote
Go away useless alt:
Why?
Because there are enough open Incursion threads open, some CSM supported and Dev observed = redundant. Because the idea is so terrible it doesn't need explaining, even capsuleers between frozen corps and half a downloaded brain feel revulsion just bearly hearing it. Don't think you ever ran incursions and are part of the community. Hammer falling ... Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
PennyShilling
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 15:14:00 -
[3] - Quote
iv being running incursions almost 2 years with more than 1 character ..... i feel my idea is a worthy one and a noble cause to get behind
whats the use in getting incursion rich, if that richness is just inflating the cost to play the game and as noted from server numbers, eve is at an all time low of online users, something needs to be done or we are indeed a dieing game.
what use is your big pile of incursion isk when you have no one to play in the sandbox with? |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
234
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 15:22:00 -
[4] - Quote
How hard should I laugh ?? You can freely choose, I can give you some options if you can't come up with some.
Gaining ISK and burning ISK has nothing to do with each other. Your whole base is an observation form ignorance. What you are asking for is the same old idiotic concept of telling players what to do and how to play the game right. I have been making billions over a short amount of time and just two weeks ago I was down to a 5 mil wallet. What I do has nothing to do with what you do in regards to gaining, keeping and/or spending ISK.
Troll Sunday is two days past, just in case you just woke up from a drunk stupor. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2327
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 15:35:00 -
[5] - Quote
As someone who lives in an Incursion constellation that gets completely shut down for the maximum duration every time the Sansha Circus comes to our town, I'm going to get behind this anti-farming measure with a solid +1 and a like for OP (to be delivered after this post is written).
The petty little children in the Incursion "communities" (if you can call infighting, backstabbing and all the other fragrant bullshit they pollute the forums with a "community") make quite enough money on their generally-safe highsec PvE without needing to spend the entire week farming it.
At the very least, if you're going to farm easy Sansha money (and with such an air of self-entitlement, too!), you should at least have to do it with Sansha overrides weakening your ships.
Sansha should also start using instalock frigs to scram and pod, but that's a totally different thread. |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
40
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 15:35:00 -
[6] - Quote
PennyShilling wrote:iv being running incursions almost 2 years with more than 1 character ..... i feel my idea is a worthy one and a noble cause to get behind
whats the use in getting incursion rich, if that richness is just inflating the cost to play the game and as noted from server numbers, eve is at an all time low of online users, something needs to be done or we are indeed a dieing game.
what use is your big pile of incursion isk when you have no one to play in the sandbox with?
I run incursions cause I like them and the community I run with. Not to get rich, solo FW missions are better for that. |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1143
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 15:59:00 -
[7] - Quote
Leaving an Incursion up for 5 days (Hardly ever happens anymore) means you are preventing it from spawning somewhere else for those 5 days, your plan would actually cause more downtime for systems as a whole not less, not to mention the high level of influence hitting everything 'not Incursion related' as it would never be at 0% till it was over.
So in short; Yes Incursions shut down your constellation for 5 days (Not really but OK), the farming also kept it from being in your constellation for 5 days, your proposal has some flaws; Back to the drawing board.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
460
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 16:07:00 -
[8] - Quote
PennyShilling wrote:iv being running incursions almost 2 years with more than 1 character ..... i feel my idea is a worthy one and a noble cause to get behind
whats the use in getting incursion rich, if that richness is just inflating the cost to play the game and as noted from server numbers, eve is at an all time low of online users, something needs to be done or we are indeed a dieing game.
what use is your big pile of incursion isk when you have no one to play in the sandbox with?
the better solution to this is remove empire incursions....
out of empire you keep on dangling that bling pirate boat farming someone is gonna wanna a piece of it. And they don't have to worry about hot drop bait...there is no hot drop coming in.
And eve is dying....again? |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
234
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 16:14:00 -
[9] - Quote
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:As someone who lives in an Incursion constellation that gets completely shut down for the maximum duration every time the Sansha Circus comes to our town, I'm going to get behind this anti-farming measure with a solid +1 and a like for OP (to be delivered after this post is written).
The petty little children in the Incursion "communities" (if you can call infighting, backstabbing and all the other fragrant bullshit they pollute the forums with a "community") make quite enough money on their generally-safe highsec PvE without needing to spend the entire week farming it.
At the very least, if you're going to farm easy Sansha money (and with such an air of self-entitlement, too!), you should at least have to do it with Sansha overrides weakening your ships.
Sansha should also start using instalock frigs to scram and pod, but that's a totally different thread. As someone living in Low sec I think FW should be shut down because ... As someone living in High sec I think High sec shoulc be compeltely safe because... As someone gaining little ISK and palying casually from time to time, I think all Isk incoem should eb reduced because.... You do understand what an argument from personal experience is ?
And giving the OP a like though you say the opposite in part of your reply and state contradicting observations and shows the same incoherent thoughts it makes me think its your alt posting -¦-¦ Saying something that sounds important and valid doesn't make it so. If either of you sit back and think about you will notive the flaws of your views, can hardly call them arguments.
And maybe if you get butthurt by an incursion you get some buddies together and kill it ? I don't interfere with your play style, don't interfere with others.
And btw, I make atm 30+ mil in 10 minutes running ghost sites (2 min per site) ... so don't tell me Inc ISK is high. And You can also find threads that tell you that exploration sites don't pay squat - again, personal experience.
And if you pay any notice towards official numbers, Incursion ISK is about where it is supposed to be, but yeah, a few dudes are rich, cut the source for everyone. Hmm, how about preventing trading of any kind ... that would increase versatility.
Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1143
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 16:25:00 -
[10] - Quote
Zan Shiro wrote:
out of empire you keep on dangling that bling pirate boat farming someone is gonna wanna a piece of it. And they don't have to worry about hot drop bait...there is no hot drop coming in.
And eve is dying....again?
I keep hearing this, what I can't understand is why people don't understand Low Sec incursion get run quite often, granted they are run in low end ships with more tank and a squad of PVP'er waiting in the wings (or just one click from logging in) but these groups that run Low sec incursions don't seem to get harassed as much as you would think. Oh yeah, that's because they run smart, and safe, and for some unknown reason you think that if they moved Incursion to low sec all the bling boats will come and sit still waiting for you to finally get a descent kilmail?
And seriously think about this, you move them to Low Sec, 300 Incursion runner show up to run it, all of them set each other to Blue, anything or anyone not blue that jumps into the system or undocks from the station gets blapped or reported to the FC and the fleet safes up till the threat is found, or baited out of hiding, is all that work really worth a 200 mil killmail because I can almost guarantee there will be no bling boats in Low sec.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
|
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
39
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 17:11:00 -
[11] - Quote
PennyShilling wrote:iv being running incursions almost 2 years with more than 1 character ..... i feel my idea is a worthy one and a noble cause to get behind
so while you ran them there were nothing bad with the farming, now that you left (or somebody kicked you out?) them nobody else should farm becouse its bad. nice integrity there. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
460
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 17:26:00 -
[12] - Quote
Goldiiee wrote:Zan Shiro wrote:
out of empire you keep on dangling that bling pirate boat farming someone is gonna wanna a piece of it. And they don't have to worry about hot drop bait...there is no hot drop coming in.
And eve is dying....again?
I keep hearing this, what I can't understand is why people don't understand Low Sec incursion get run quite often, granted they are run in low end ships with more tank and a squad of PVP'er waiting in the wings (or just one click from logging in) but these groups that run Low sec incursions don't seem to get harassed as much as you would think. Oh yeah, that's because they run smart, and safe, and for some unknown reason you think that if they moved Incursion to low sec all the bling boats will come and sit still waiting for you to finally get a descent kilmail? And seriously think about this, you move them to Low Sec, 300 Incursion runner show up to run it, all of them set each other to Blue, anything or anyone not blue that jumps into the system or undocks from the station gets blapped or reported to the FC and the fleet safes up till the threat is found, or baited out of hiding, is all that work really worth a 200 mil killmail because I can almost guarantee there will be no bling boats in Low sec.
the idea, for me anyway, is to separate risk averse bears from those not averse. a player runs out of empire incursions gets an internet cookie from me. The idea is to see just how Mnay incursion runners are truly down for them if low sec. CCP has a working model for this, level 5.
They moved to low, many whined, some said oh well, let's go to low sec. If latter got paid for finding some balls....good for them. Bear tears scared of numbers < .5, well they were amusing tbh. Wanted the isk but not that much it seemed. |
Hopelesshobo
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
271
|
Posted - 2014.07.22 17:32:00 -
[13] - Quote
PennyShilling wrote:
whats the use in getting incursion rich, if that richness is just inflating the cost to play the game and as noted from server numbers
The devs posted a fancy graphic last fanfest which showed how much isk was generated in the game from what. Turns out ratting makes FAR more isk then incursions, so you might want to start there.
PennyShilling wrote:
eve is at an all time low of online users, something needs to be done or we are indeed a dieing game.
Being that its summer, with no summer war, has NOTHING to do with this now does it... Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
1314
|
Posted - 2014.07.23 03:40:00 -
[14] - Quote
To OP, no, I do not support your idea.
To those asking that incursions leave hisec alone . . . .No, sansha go where the people are, do you even KNOW what an incursion is about?
That being said, yeah it makes little sense for incursions to hit the lesser populated areas of low or null. Maybe only go where there is active PI, ratting, bases. yeah that would make more sense
m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9 |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5690
|
Posted - 2014.07.23 03:56:00 -
[15] - Quote
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:How hard should I laugh ?? You can freely choose, I can give you some options if you can't come up with some.
Gaining ISK and burning ISK has nothing to do with each other. Your whole base is an observation form ignorance. What you are asking for is the same old idiotic concept of telling players what to do and how to play the game right. I have been making billions over a short amount of time and just two weeks ago I was down to a 5 mil wallet. What I do has nothing to do with what you do in regards to gaining, keeping and/or spending ISK.
Troll Sunday is two days past, just in case you just woke up from a drunken stupor.
Yeah, I can see how it has nothing to do with isk making when I go & blow up the mothership as soon as it becomes available. Incursion runners make sure that we know it has nothing to do with money at all. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5690
|
Posted - 2014.07.23 04:37:00 -
[16] - Quote
I like this idea, but to keep in line with Sansha lore la dee da, incursions should increase in frequency & amount. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2327
|
Posted - 2014.07.23 05:54:00 -
[17] - Quote
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote: As someone living in Low sec I think FW should be shut down because ... As someone living in High sec I think High sec should be compeltely safe because... As someone gaining little ISK and palying casually from time to time, I think all ISK income should be reduced because.... You do understand what an argument from personal experience and ignorance is ?
And giving the OP a like, though you say the opposite in part of your reply and state contradicting observations and show the same incoherent thoughts, it makes me think its your alt posting -¦-¦ Saying something that sounds important and valid doesn't make it so. If either of you sit back and think about it a moment, you will notive the flaws of your views, can hardly call them arguments.
And maybe, if you get butthurt by an incursion you get some buddies together and kill it ? I don't interfere with your play style, don't interfere with others.
And btw, I make atm 30+ mil in 10 minutes running ghost sites (2 min per site) ... so don't tell me Inc ISK is high. And You can also find threads that tell you that exploration sites don't pay squat - again, personal experience.
And if you pay any notice towards official numbers, Incursion ISK is about where it is supposed to be, but yeah, a few dudes are rich, cut the source for everyone. Hmm, how about preventing trading of any kind ... that would increase versatility.
And ...
You seem to be completely unaware of several logical fallacies for one who's so quick to try and accuse another of them. While we're on the topic of your posts and writing style, however, I must ask if you are remotely capable of writing a post that does not attempt to mini-mod and/or insult the person you're addressing it to. Also, your reading comprehension skills seem to be critically low.
As for the rest of it ... I would try to dismantle your inane ranting bit-by-bit in hopes of ushering you into the light of salvation and logic, but I'm not so completely unaware as to not realize what this post is.
3/10, not the best troll by far but it did get me to reply. |
Dally Lama
Republic University Minmatar Republic
91
|
Posted - 2014.07.23 12:17:00 -
[18] - Quote
@Penny @Alvatore.
Do yourselves a favor and don't waste your time trying to argue with Fer. He is not looking to have proper discussion; he's looking to project his own insecurities onto other people by lamenting them for their ideas about EVE.
Check his corps war history for more info. New Fitting Window | Distances above 10km | Maximums for buy orders |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
234
|
Posted - 2014.07.23 12:41:00 -
[19] - Quote
Dally Lama wrote:@Penny @Alvatore. Do yourselves a favor and don't waste your time trying to argue with Fer. He is not looking to have proper discussion; he's looking to project his own insecurities onto other people by lamenting them for their ideas about EVE. Check his corps war history for more info. Can you STFU ? This is personal trolling, if that's all you can post in every thread, thank you very much. Maybe you check all of my posts not just those that oppose idiotic ideas. How about you post something in regards to the thread and not just crap your unrelated mouthspill over over the forum. Personal enough for you ?
@Alvatore DiMarco: Yeah might have lost it a bit there, also wasn't quite clear of when I referred to whom. Damn Summer heat is killing me. But I still think openly commenting of how you give another person a like for an obviously silly idea, yes I still believe it is, can invoke some resentment from me, the heat did the rest. Especially, since he is making the claim and has the burdon of proof and all you said was that you are unhappy with Incursions, out of jeaoulsy and discomfort I might add, which is not an objective and therefore valid 3rd person game design observation of any feature. Btw. saying you dislike the infights, bickering etc of Incursions and the Op stating he wants more competition by cuttring Incs doesn't go in line, the reason why giving him a like didn't fit at all.
@ Malak Azaria: Whut ? I said making ISK and destroying ISK are two seperate things, not that Incusrions do not generate ISK or much ISK, not sure how this could be misunderstood in what you quoted. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Commander A9
The Scope Gallente Federation
617
|
Posted - 2014.07.29 01:14:00 -
[20] - Quote
No way!
Contests and competition for sites are bad enough when you have 3 or 4 major fleets in a single damn focus! Mothership-popping is rampant enough without people being forced to actually do it.
I actually miss the days when people left the mothership ALONE so more people could make more money...but nowadays people let their pride get in the way of everyone making money.
Really, if you kill the mothership, YOU lose out on the opportunity to make more money. Recommendations: -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -less focus on graphics, more on mechanics...and STOP NERFING EVERYTHING! Tune in to NewEdenRadio.com for awesome music! |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |