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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.07.22 16:49:00 -
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I was recently participating in a discussion on why Hulks and Covetors do not need a larger ore hold. I stated my opinion that no, the barges with the maximum yield do not need a bigger ore hold as that would go against CCP's stated role for them.
Lo and behold, one of the other folks participating in the discussion contacts me via EvE-mail and proceeds to explain why, when multi-boxing on 12 acounts, the amount of micromanagement involved with Hulks means he's forced to limit himself to lower-yield hulls. I explained to him that CCP doesn't balance ships around the needs of multi-boxers, and that if he as really looking to maximize his mining yield that maybe he should get some friends to help.
This is where things get interesting.
So I have a player who as point-blank admitted to me that he:
1. Flies 12 barges/exhumers in space at a time. 2. Uses a freighter to pick up ore from an MTU and haul it. 3. Is very busy micromanaging his barges. 4. Also has a Rorqual somewhere in system, albeit probably at a POS.
What should I do with this information? Share it, of course, as I did in this post.
Not surprisingly, the pilot in question EvE-mails me again and asks me to remove his name from the post. Apparently, he's worried about becoming a target. Being a polite fellow, I wanted to oblige him, but as someone had already quoted my post, there was nothing I could do. The damage was done.
Well, I'm not one to do something half-way, so since it's already out there, I should share with the appropriate audience. This doesn't belong in some random thread in General Discussion, this belongs here in Crime & Punishment where it will be fully appreciated and...acted upon.
The pilot's name is Malcolm Lionel. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
162
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Posted - 2014.07.22 16:54:00 -
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And here is my reply to his request to take his name down:
Bronson Hughes wrote:Malcolm,
Unfortunately, my post has already been quoted. There's nothing I can do to remove the information.
I did, however, take the liberty of sharing the information on the Crime & Punishment forums. I'm sure one of the villans there will look you and your mining operation up soon enough.
In the future, I would exercise a great deal more caution about who you share details of your mining operation with. Information is power, and you never know how that power will be used.
Happy mining, and keep a sharp eye on local. ;^)
Bronson Hughes Grand Knight Accelerator
Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Saithe
Grumpy Old Spacevets
110
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Posted - 2014.07.22 18:25:00 -
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Or you could, i dont know, go violence his boats, demand ransom, post tears and story here, and receive great success.
But since you are only posting his name and dont have the balls to violebce him yourself, ill run my locater agent on him, find him, violence his boat myself, demand ransom, and post tears and story on here for grwat success |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
164
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Posted - 2014.07.22 18:42:00 -
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Saithe wrote:Or you could, i dont know, go violence his boats, demand ransom, post tears and story here, and receive great success.
But since you are only posting his name and dont have the balls to violebce him yourself, ill run my locater agent on him, find him, violence his boat myself, demand ransom, and post tears and story on here for grwat success My current schedule doesn't afford me the time to do proper justice to said violence (impending wedding is murder on in-game time). So instead of half-assing it or waiting a month, I figured I'd share this opportunity with C&P in case anyone here wanted to violence him instead. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3263
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Posted - 2014.07.23 00:05:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Saithe wrote:Or you could, i dont know, go violence his boats, demand ransom, post tears and story here, and receive great success.
But since you are only posting his name and dont have the balls to violebce him yourself, ill run my locater agent on him, find him, violence his boat myself, demand ransom, and post tears and story on here for grwat success My current schedule doesn't afford me the time to do proper justice to said violence (impending wedding is murder on in-game time). So instead of half-assing it or waiting a month, I figured I'd share this opportunity with C&P in case anyone here wanted to violence him instead.
This is why I am not married.
Priorities. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
447
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Posted - 2014.07.23 00:55:00 -
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I can't tell you how surprised I was to discover that this person wasn't a member of FA, or PBLRD, or even B0T, but in fact is someone I'm allowed to go and shoot at.
I may need to look into this. |
Maxmillian Rokatansky
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2014.07.23 01:12:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Saithe wrote:Or you could, i dont know, go violence his boats, demand ransom, post tears and story here, and receive great success.
But since you are only posting his name and dont have the balls to violebce him yourself, ill run my locater agent on him, find him, violence his boat myself, demand ransom, and post tears and story on here for grwat success My current schedule doesn't afford me the time to do proper justice to said violence (impending wedding is murder on in-game time). So instead of half-assing it or waiting a month, I figured I'd share this opportunity with C&P in case anyone here wanted to violence him instead. This is why I am not married. Priorities. Really, that's the reason why you're not married?
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Prudii
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2014.07.23 01:54:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:I can't tell you how surprised I was to discover that this person wasn't a member of FA, or PBLRD, or even B0T, but in fact is someone I'm allowed to go and shoot at.
I may need to look into this.
Same here, and on a side note we aren't that bad are we? |
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
61
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Posted - 2014.07.23 02:10:00 -
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Maxmillian Rokatansky wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Saithe wrote:Or you could, i dont know, go violence his boats, demand ransom, post tears and story here, and receive great success.
But since you are only posting his name and dont have the balls to violebce him yourself, ill run my locater agent on him, find him, violence his boat myself, demand ransom, and post tears and story on here for grwat success My current schedule doesn't afford me the time to do proper justice to said violence (impending wedding is murder on in-game time). So instead of half-assing it or waiting a month, I figured I'd share this opportunity with C&P in case anyone here wanted to violence him instead. This is why I am not married. Priorities. Really, that's the reason why you're not married?
That and wanting to keep having sex. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5690
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Posted - 2014.07.23 02:41:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Saithe wrote:Or you could, i dont know, go violence his boats, demand ransom, post tears and story here, and receive great success.
But since you are only posting his name and dont have the balls to violebce him yourself, ill run my locater agent on him, find him, violence his boat myself, demand ransom, and post tears and story on here for grwat success My current schedule doesn't afford me the time to do proper justice to said violence (impending wedding is murder on in-game time). So instead of half-assing it or waiting a month, I figured I'd share this opportunity with C&P in case anyone here wanted to violence him instead. This is why I am not married. Priorities.
Ball & chain. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
168
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:05:00 -
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Glad to see some interest here. I was hoping this didn't go to waste.
Also, ya'll are bad re: marriage. I really lucked out this time around (#1 was a mess); she's less like a ball & chain and more like whips & chains. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
364
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:21:00 -
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I'll just leave this here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=360335&find=unread
Mail me with the details. Hades Effect |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2699
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:32:00 -
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I certainly hope Malcolm Lionel has his nullsec mining permits in order. If we're not supposed to shoot pods in hisec, why are they filled with meat? |
Tara Vorkosigan
Dark Fusion Industries
2
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Posted - 2014.07.23 19:24:00 -
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Incoming Disco fleet/Bomber Wing in 3... 2... 1... |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
770
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Posted - 2014.07.23 19:53:00 -
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Oh my.
*polishes up the Nemesis*
*thinks about it*
*polishes up the Proty as well*
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Osirus Darksun
Vile Drifters Blood.Drunk
36
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Posted - 2014.07.24 08:30:00 -
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...I love this game |
Tara Vorkosigan
Dark Fusion Industries
2
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:46:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Oh my. *polishes up the Nemesis* *thinks about it* *polishes up the Proty as well*
I'm interested in getting into bombers. Got any tips for a newbie? Anything I can do to practice attack runs and such? I was thinking about fitting festival launchers and doing torpedo attack runs on miners. |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
27
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Posted - 2014.07.24 23:37:00 -
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Forum Intel Best Intel
Inb4 ITS A TARP is screamed in the fleet Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
27
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Posted - 2014.07.24 23:54:00 -
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Tara Vorkosigan wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Oh my. *polishes up the Nemesis* *thinks about it* *polishes up the Proty as well* I'm interested in getting into bombers. Got any tips for a newbie? Anything I can do to practice attack runs and such? I was thinking about fitting festival launchers and doing torpedo attack runs on miners.
My comprehensive guide to new pilot bomber experience optimization:
1. Choose the bomber you are most likely to have sex with if it were a person, looks can be an important factor! ( Just note purifier and hound have better potential DPS with an extra low where the nemesis and Manticore have more Ewar ability )
2. Learn your fit - many newbies choose an MSE ( Medium shield extender ) to give them enough tank to surivive glancing shots and give them a buffer to learn to fly better. Once your experienced you no longer need these though some people choose to keep them. ( Note again to fit these you may require a micro auxiliary powercore ) Also Faction torpedos are a MUST until you have T2, and even then apply DPS better than some T2 depending on the target. And dont derp and fit an improved cloak, covert cloak or the door is that way
3. Learn your prey - Bombers have unique damage application in the sense that smaller targets are improbable to kill while larger targets seem to melt under sustained fire. Your best bet is to always punch above your weight class, go for anything big enough for the torpedo to apply their damage. Untanked and unarmed ships also fall victim to solo bombers, while bomber gangs are capable of taking down virtually anything bigger than a frigate ( And with recon support frigates die too! )
Remember that Rapid light missiles, painters, webs, damps, small guns, instalock high tracking medium guns ( Insta-Canes, Deimos, etc ), and drones are the biggest threat to your bomber as they hit you best or mess with you hardest.
4. Cloaking - Your cloak is your shield and dagger, without it your dead. you gain the ability to selectively engage targets when you can warp cloaked, see a hauler on a POCO? Go for it. See a Jaguar gang coming through? NOPE cloak and wait it out. Think like a space troll, hit when you can and peace out when the going is about to get rough
5. AFK Cloaky "what it means to you" - You can make a mid way safe between to planets and Cloak in a system while your AFK, this tends to shut down mining, mission, and most ratting activities around skiddish null sec dwellers and some jumpy low sec groups. You don't make any ISK Doing it and there is no Risk to your ship if you remain cloaked, but you get the reward of shutting down an entire system for the duration of your stay.
6. T2 Torpedo - T2 torps are really hard to fit well without advanced weapon upgrades 4-5, this makes certain fits impossible to use while using T2 but you gain Much improved range with javelins and stupid DPS with Rage against large targets such as capitals and Battleships. Do not attempt to use rage against frigs or some cruisers as your DPS Will be unable to apply itself resulting in the loss of your bomber.
7. Black Ops and Recons - Recons give you the ability to engage targets you couldn't before, falcon jams let you take on anti frigate ships, rapiers allow you to take on fast cruisers and frigs with long ranged web ability and painter bonuses, Pilgrims drink the cap from active tankers making them useless, and arazus hold and scram from range keeping you out of harms way
Black Ops take it a step up and add more DPS, Covert Jump portals ( Bridges ) and specific roles when in large fleets. Black ops fleets are feared all over low and null for good reason as they can really mess with your day. getting in with a black ops corp / alliance can open the door to a lot of nice or interesting kills too.
TLDR - There isn't one Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Tara Vorkosigan
Dark Fusion Industries
2
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Posted - 2014.07.25 03:24:00 -
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Thanks a lot, this is awesome. You ever want to take me on a training flight sometime, look me up in game. Seriously though, this should be posted somewhere.
As for the type, I've already picked one. Manticore. <3 Equally sexy to the Nemesis, and easier to fit. |
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Sh0plifter
Underworld Initiative
46
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:34:00 -
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Okay, there is a guy who flies 60 nightmares through ISO. Only ever seen him in Lowsec twice, both times was unfortunate I was not in a cyno ship. =( He also boxes those same pilots in hulks and mines in high sec. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
781
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:07:00 -
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Christopher Mabata wrote:[stuffs
On a side note, if the Bombers Bar is still around, check them out (I have heard Drama has happened, and I haven't seen them around......I could be wrong, I've been busy......).
They do null/WH bomber roams all over and you can learn a lot.
Some pointers to the above advice:
T2 torps are nice but not really necessary, as your main weapon system is the Bomb Launcher.
Fill up your cargo hold with bombs (you can't hold very many), then torp/rocket ammo.
Torps are crap vs anything smaller than a cruiser. So don't try to duel frigs with them. Fit rocket launchers instead if you are going frigate hunting.
Covert ops cloak is the only cloak you should fit. Obvious, but sometimes you have to state the obvious.
Sensor dampeners are your friend.
A good way to practice timing/techniques for bomb launching is to bomb POCO's.
Don't be afraid to fit a warp stab. It makes you immune to bubbles and you don't need to have a lock-on to drop bombs anyway.
MWD/Cloak trick. Live it. Learn it. Flaunt it. USE IT.
You have no tank. Period. The cloak is your only defense, along with surprise, terror, and a fanatical dedication to the Pope...er....James 315.
Expect to die. Stealth bombers do that a lot when the op goes bad.
Use the right rigs for the mission. Being that SB's use frig rigs, its pretty cheap to tear them out if you need to.
Try to fly in midsize-to-large groups. You become much more dangerous in a group.
Learn to use the tactical overlay. This will help you a lot if you are a beginning bomber pilot.
And always, ALWAYS, remember that the bomb flies in the direction that you are facing at launch.....and detonates 30 km from launch point, with a 15 km blast radius. It is VERY embarrassing to get destroyed by your own bomb........
Have fun. I recommend Syndicate as a good place to start. Them Goons can be pretty tricksy, however.
Bombing a station undock is also good practice too........
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
916
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:31:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:
Good bomber advice
One more thing.... make sure you are all using the SAME type of bomb. Dont be the guy with the kinetic bomb that blows up everyone elses thermal one. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
199
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:35:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Don't be afraid to fit a warp stab. It makes you immune to bubbles and you don't need to have a lock-on to drop bombs anyway. While this is good advice to keep you from getting nabbed by a lone 'ceptor, I am almost certain that warp core stabs don't grant bubble immunity. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
34
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:46:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Christopher Mabata wrote:[stuffs On a side note, if the Bombers Bar is still around, check them out (I have heard Drama has happened, and I haven't seen them around......I could be wrong, I've been busy......). They do null/WH bomber roams all over and you can learn a lot. Some pointers to the above advice: T2 torps are nice but not really necessary, as your main weapon system is the Bomb Launcher. Fill up your cargo hold with bombs (you can't hold very many), then torp/rocket ammo. Torps are crap vs anything smaller than a cruiser. So don't try to duel frigs with them. Fit rocket launchers instead if you are going frigate hunting. Covert ops cloak is the only cloak you should fit. Obvious, but sometimes you have to state the obvious. Sensor dampeners are your friend. A good way to practice timing/techniques for bomb launching is to bomb POCO's. Don't be afraid to fit a warp stab. It makes you immune to bubbles and you don't need to have a lock-on to drop bombs anyway. MWD/Cloak trick. Live it. Learn it. Flaunt it. USE IT. You have no tank. Period. The cloak is your only defense, along with surprise, terror, and a fanatical dedication to the Pope...er....James 315. Expect to die. Stealth bombers do that a lot when the op goes bad. Use the right rigs for the mission. Being that SB's use frig rigs, its pretty cheap to tear them out if you need to. Try to fly in midsize-to-large groups. You become much more dangerous in a group. Learn to use the tactical overlay. This will help you a lot if you are a beginning bomber pilot. And always, ALWAYS, remember that the bomb flies in the direction that you are facing at launch.....and detonates 30 km from launch point, with a 15 km blast radius. It is VERY embarrassing to get destroyed by your own bomb........ Have fun. I recommend Syndicate as a good place to start. Them Goons can be pretty tricksy, however. Bombing a station undock is also good practice too........
1. I used to FC for Bombers Bar, I retired something like 4-5 months ago after all the drama when i was one of 5 FC's left and by far the most active. 2. They really aren't around anymore, Templeman N Came back but his new direction ideal seems quirky and probably wont work in the long run 3. Yes bombing undocks is great practice, No do not fit a warp core stab that blooms your sig too much and increases chances of you getting caught or alpha'd before you warp. And what was that nonsense about bubble immunity thanks to a stab? Bubble is a 99 Strength point ( much like a hic's focused warp disruption if your not in nullified T3 or an interceptor You Are Stuck end of story. 4. A competent bomber needs no stab anyways 5. Why would you need the MWD cloak trick on a bomber when you have a 4.6s align time on average as is? In Tidi blob fests thats a loooooooong time and outside tidi thats quick enough that in most cases a ceptor wont catch you unless you have bad luck or get bubbled, which is another issue all together. 6. No your main weapon is not your bombs, any Bomber FC will tell you bombs are situational, torpedos are not and can apply damage faster an more reliably than bombs, bombs can be avoided with MJD's torpedos once you tackle and scram can not 7. Right rigs for the job? Usually the rigs are for extra fitting, like i said most bombers use an MSE, which means youll need a processor overclocking rig sometimes an ancillary router too depending on the fit, i know my bomber needs a T2 anc to fit a stable 10mn Ab and T2 torps ( its a fleet fit )
All an all not bad additional advice but you need to reinforce your basics before someone loses a bomber thinking they were immune to bubbles because of a stab or uses an MWD and hits their own bomb Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
916
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:46:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Don't be afraid to fit a warp stab. It makes you immune to bubbles and you don't need to have a lock-on to drop bombs anyway. While this is good advice to keep you from getting nabbed by a lone 'ceptor, I am almost certain that warp core stabs don't grant bubble immunity.
I have my doubts about that too. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
34
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:51:00 -
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Sh0plifter wrote:Okay, there is a guy who flies 60 nightmares through ISO. Only ever seen him in Lowsec twice, both times was unfortunate I was not in a cyno ship. =( He also boxes those same pilots in hulks and mines in high sec.
Is he going through low sec incursion space? If so no good if your in a cyno ship as all incursion systems are cyno jammed anyhow. if hes not then im suprised nobody has already dropped a fleet of NAPOC's or blap dreads to fix the issue, 60 nightmares is a lot of ISK to kill and most people would leap at a chance for that.
Sidenote if he IS the incursion runner im thinking of he has alt eyes watching the nearby systems, second a fleet is coming through hes gone and not showing his face till your long gone. Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
34
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:52:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Don't be afraid to fit a warp stab. It makes you immune to bubbles and you don't need to have a lock-on to drop bombs anyway. While this is good advice to keep you from getting nabbed by a lone 'ceptor, I am almost certain that warp core stabs don't grant bubble immunity.
You are 100% correct, there is no such thing as stabbed bubble immunity, i called him out on it too. All bubbles have a 99 strength point and are capable of holding supers, why should a lone stab suddenly make that not the case?
Hint: it doesn't Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
35
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:57:00 -
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Tara Vorkosigan wrote:Thanks a lot, this is awesome. You ever want to take me on a training flight sometime, look me up in game. Seriously though, this should be posted somewhere.
As for the type, I've already picked one. Manticore. <3 Equally sexy to the Nemesis, and easier to fit.
Good choice with the manticore, probably my favorite of the 3 bombers i can fly, and definently the best looking by far in my honest opinion. If you need any help with fits let me know i have some very unique ones including a 10mn Stable Sniper bomber for fleet support
Second its been a while since i took anyone out for training runs, i do have a soundcloud of a training session i did for BB a long time ago mail me in game if your interested in that.
Other than that you could look into my corp if you enjoy covops, been a while since we did a Black ops fleet drop but we do covert ops all the time out here.
Fly Often, and Kill well o7 Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Ned Thomas
Angry Rockbiters M1NER CONFL1CT
71
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:38:00 -
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Came to see if anything had developed with multiboxer, stayed for awesome bomber advice.
........now if only these two topics can be merged in some wonderfully violent way... |
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