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Netan MalDoran
xXTheWarhammerXx
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Posted - 2014.07.22 19:07:00 -
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Before I get bashed for talking about AFK cloaking, let me state my argument.
Everything in EvE needs to have some sort of risk involved, even highsec mining has the risk of CODE coming around and blapping you for your tears. But AFK cloakers are not necessary and hinder gameplay for many in null, yes there needs to be a risk to those null-farmers, but that risk comes in the form of NON-AFK cloakers that will hot-drop you. We kill AFK miners all the time because they need to 'HTFU' as some say and need to actually play the game, why not the same for AFK cloakers?
Possible solution:
A POS Cloak Nullifier module that when manually activated by a player with the appropriate skills (Like turrets and Starbase Defense) would emit an energy shock-wave that would temporarily disable the POS for about, 2 minutes (Due to its close proximity) making it vulnerable and any cloaks active in the system would be disabled. If there is a cloaker playing the game, np, just reactivate the cloak and no one has enough time to scan you down. If you are AFK, then you are now in a vulnerable position. To keep this from being abused, the module would use a large amount of Ozone and would have a cooldown of 24 hours before the next time it can be used.
Then we could add a T3 Cloak strengthening field subsystem to allow T3's to be able to still be cloaked through all of this, that way if people want to risk AFK cloaking, they have to be risking a bit of ISK and would have to not be a 10 day old alt in an ibis with a proto cloak.
Any +1's? -10's?
2/4 Current post acceptance: 50% "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2613
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Posted - 2014.07.22 19:13:00 -
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Multi-national No list incoming.... MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3342
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Posted - 2014.07.22 19:14:00 -
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An AFK cloaker is already taking risks. The guys staying docked up are not. We need a module to force bears out of stations. Oh god. |
Takari
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.07.22 19:15:00 -
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Disable the POS (shields, turrets, etc) for how long? I kinda like the trade-off here... The possibility that what you thought was an afk cloaker was actually bait cloaked cyno waiting for that shield to drop.. Hmmmm... "Roll the dice, don't think twice. This is the way of things.
Welcome to EVE." ~ CCP Falcon |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
1933
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Posted - 2014.07.22 19:27:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:An AFK cloaker is already taking risks. The guys staying docked up are not. We need a module to force bears out of stations. This. AFK cloaking is as much of a problem as AFK docking. You can remove one when you remove the other. |
Takari
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
418
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Posted - 2014.07.22 19:39:00 -
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Of course, I still don't understand how people who are AFK can possibly be hurting people.. If a person is not at the keyboard, how are they hurting you? "Roll the dice, don't think twice. This is the way of things.
Welcome to EVE." ~ CCP Falcon |
Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole Try Rerolling
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Posted - 2014.07.22 19:48:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:-snip-
Hi, Netan! I'd like to take a moment to discuss with you the very real threat to the continued and long life of our most beloved game EVE Online. This threat is known as At The Keyboard Uncloaked Ganking(ATK Uncloaked for short). For over a decade now pilots in the New Eden star cluster have been terrorized and held hostage by prolific use of uncloaked gank boats that ruin the fun of cloaked players and their gameplay.
I implore you to ask your friends and comrades about this deplorable state of affairs and reach out to your CCP representative and tell them to say no to kowtowing and buffing the uncloaked monopoly on EVE's gameplay.
Sincerely, Kaerakh from Surprisingly Deep Hole. Schrodinger's Hot Dropper - The Fate of Forum Alts - Click me! Click me! |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
460
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Posted - 2014.07.22 20:11:00 -
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You know to be fair I'd consider this for a change. If after use the pos is not down minutes....but down down. All mods dead, shields wiped. For like a day...not no 2 minutes.
We could argue some amount of armour or hull damage as well (we'll say some generator went off like a grenade of sorts, shrapnel everywhere) . For added pleasure...this skips ref timer games and goes straight to 1 op pos kill. You know...to add the element of danger. Is the pos worth finding the afk cloaky...or is the cloaky just bait and as soon as you declaok them in come dreads galore for the quick bash.
Besides this unusual dose of me being nice (only because I am tired from a work day that start about 17 hours ago and has not ended probably) its the usual.
As mentioned, people not at the puter can't hurt you.
Well how do we know they aren't there.
HInt 1: change system, see if they follow
HInt 2: estalk them, pvp'ers like being in km's for many reason...if your cloaky all over kb's but never in your time slot well you work out the rest |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
165
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:03:00 -
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What was it one of the CCP Devs said? "Show me a player who has been harmed by AFK cloaking, and I'll show you a player who has no business playing EvE", or something like that? Kind of gives you an insight into the official CCP position on the matter.
AFK cloaking is not...going...anywhere. Get used to it. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
voetius
BITB Support Services
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:13:00 -
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No-one has ever been killed by someone that was afk and cloaked
The afk-cloaker is incurring a cost - the cost of running an account
As said above there are counters if you aren't happy having afk cloakers in your system. |
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Iain Cariaba
Veritas Theory
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:14:00 -
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Oh look, another nullbear whining that the cloaky camper is keeping him from slaughtering poor defenseless NPCs.
HTFU or GTFO & IB4L Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:17:00 -
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The OP has such an original idea. I bet he used the forum search function and saw that no one has ever proposed an anticloaking device, module and/or structure. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3281
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:23:00 -
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Quote:16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. Thread closed. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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