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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6247
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Posted - 2014.07.23 01:26:00 -
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Hurry up and stat grabbing those plex in jita now ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Hevymetal
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
328
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Posted - 2014.07.23 01:28:00 -
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Kaaeliaa wrote:Hevymetal wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:There are PLEX at Jita right now for a bit over 770 mill and at least 30 Jita PLEX under 785 mill which is more than 100 mill down on PLEX prices two weeks ago. PLEX are dropping.
I find it VERY suspicious that every time PLEX prices DROP a bit we get a heap of these "OMG look PLEX will hit a billion this week" threads :D
Are out of game attempts to manipulate ingame PLEX pricing upwards by spreading misinformation (like this thread does) actually OK according to the EULA ???? This made me laugh, thanks i needed that :) Supply, demand, marketing, basic economics ........... Is it really basic economics if ignorant morons don't understand it?
Ok, you got me, advanced economics to ignorant morons. But, I do think smart morons would understand basic economics. Wouldn't they?
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Kaaeliaa
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
5503
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Posted - 2014.07.23 01:40:00 -
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Hevymetal wrote:Kaaeliaa wrote:Hevymetal wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:There are PLEX at Jita right now for a bit over 770 mill and at least 30 Jita PLEX under 785 mill which is more than 100 mill down on PLEX prices two weeks ago. PLEX are dropping.
I find it VERY suspicious that every time PLEX prices DROP a bit we get a heap of these "OMG look PLEX will hit a billion this week" threads :D
Are out of game attempts to manipulate ingame PLEX pricing upwards by spreading misinformation (like this thread does) actually OK according to the EULA ???? This made me laugh, thanks i needed that :) Supply, demand, marketing, basic economics ........... Is it really basic economics if ignorant morons don't understand it? Ok, you got me, advanced economics to ignorant morons. But, I do think smart morons would understand basic economics. Wouldn't they?
One would hope, but here in MURICA economics isn't even a required course for most high school students. Nor is any kind of financial planning.
It's really not a surprise no one here understands even basic econ. Can't speak for any other countries, of course. One of EVE's Most Beautiful People. Princess of Sibyyl's Pillow Fort. Proponent of Dusette Voltron Theory (tm). Adopted Dusette. FAQ time with Kaaeliaa Q: What is the meaning of life, Kaaeliaa? A: Yes. |
TedStriker
The Scope Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2014.07.23 05:51:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote: Wait hang on, I'm getting something. Sorry, I was wrong, apparently PLEX are dropping in price.
You wish...
its not a crash if they go down less then they went up in the first place. call back when they....reach 600 for a change...or better yet, 500. That would be called a "crash".
Plex are out of control and will stay so as longs its the most valuable/low risk long term investment. If everything fails, in 10 years its still gametime/rl money. |
Bigo mendozkevich
Imperial Guardians Spaceship Samurai
0
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:12:00 -
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Feel the power of my wallet. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10775
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:21:00 -
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CCP has a plex sale -> "OMG GUYS THE BUBBLE IS BREAKING"
Meanwhile those who hold stock maintain because they're not foolish and can read basic price graphs. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
846
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:42:00 -
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Temporary drop in prices does not mean "crash"... Especially now, when there is 10% discount on them
!!!! PLEX WILL HIT 1B !!! . |
Equinox Ying
Frontier Rebellion Dark.Moon Rising
18
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:47:00 -
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There are always going to be people who moan about the price of PLEX, if the price is high then people buying PLEX to extend game time are going to cry. If the PLEX price goes down then people who buy PLEX, people who save PLEX and CCP in general are going to cry. The Price drops too low and people stop subbing their accounts with monehs and start using PLEX because it is more affordable, and CCP cry some more. At the end of the day, PLEX has always been rising in price, it is part of the game, deal with it, or move on. As for being 'out of control', I wouldn't say so, it doesn't take a marketing expert to tell you what direction PLEX is going in, and when the price is going to be low. PLEX isn't a car you drive and steer and control the speed of. PLEX is more like a bus, you just have to go with it, and if you're smart enough you'll see the bus stops, and the speed limits, you'll know when it picks up and when it drops off. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1469
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:53:00 -
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Seremity PLEX price is around 3.6 billion https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=w2hsqEvPGWQ#t=1294
Just stirring the pot :D
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Miles Parabellum
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
48
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:00:00 -
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More people living in null and wormholes and generating large amounts of isk with either little risk (null) or very little time invested (WH space). This allows more people to finance their accounts with said isk. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10777
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:09:00 -
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Miles Parabellum wrote:More people living in null and wormholes and generating large amounts of isk with either little risk (null) or very little time invested (WH space). This allows more people to finance their accounts with said isk. You forgot to mention the largest area for generating large amounts of isk with even less risk - highsec. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:44:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Miles Parabellum wrote:More people living in null and wormholes and generating large amounts of isk with either little risk (null) or very little time invested (WH space). This allows more people to finance their accounts with said isk. You forgot to mention the largest area for generating large amounts of isk with even less risk - highsec. hisec is a lot more dangerous than null renters |
AngelFood
21
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:49:00 -
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They have been out of control since they were exceeded 200mil! |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1374
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Posted - 2014.07.23 09:02:00 -
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Plex should cost 4b-5b. The Tears Must Flow |
Heinrich Erquilenne
Foundation Cutting-Edge Mordus Angels
4
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Posted - 2014.07.23 09:49:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:This is ridiculous In all fairness, the velocity of price increases on Plex are ridiculous this year. Whatever the cause[s], it needs to be addressed, asap.
For CCP's defense I think they're aware of the issue and doing their best to adress it properly. But it's not easy. They can't sell unlimited amounts of plexes on the market, they can't stop people from stockpiling 2000 plexes, the only thing they can do is setting up a max price, but I'm not quite sure they're ready for that yet. They will have to anyway at some point just to calm down speculation because it's getting crazy.
Maybe one day someone will realize that free market can't work in a game when it's about real money trading. It's their business and they should set the price around what's profitable for them, not around what players want it to be. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6353
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:28:00 -
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Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:This is ridiculous In all fairness, the velocity of price increases on Plex are ridiculous this year. Whatever the cause[s], it needs to be addressed, asap. For CCP's defense I think they're aware of the issue and doing their best to adress it properly. But it's not easy. They can't sell unlimited amounts of plexes on the market, they can't stop people from stockpiling 2000 plexes, the only thing they can do is setting up a max price, but I'm not quite sure they're ready for that yet. They will have to anyway at some point just to calm down speculation because it's getting crazy. Maybe one day someone will realize that free market can't work in a game when it's about real money trading. It's their business and they should set the price around what's profitable for them, not around what players want it to be.
Wow two deluded opinions for the price of one
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
111
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:35:00 -
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Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:This is ridiculous In all fairness, the velocity of price increases on Plex are ridiculous this year. Whatever the cause[s], it needs to be addressed, asap. For CCP's defense I think they're aware of the issue and doing their best to adress it properly. But it's not easy. They can't sell unlimited amounts of plexes on the market, they can't stop people from stockpiling 2000 plexes, the only thing they can do is setting up a max price, but I'm not quite sure they're ready for that yet. They will have to anyway at some point just to calm down speculation because it's getting crazy. Maybe one day someone will realize that free market can't work in a game when it's about real money trading. It's their business and they should set the price around what's profitable for them, not around what players want it to be.
An option not yet explored is simply lowering the price of PLEX. The markup compared to a 30-day subscription is pretty huge. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1555
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:45:00 -
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If stockpiling really was a significant factor affecting PLEX supply to the 'consumers' (those who use it to extend game time, as opposed to the pure traders), I don't think it would healthy for the game. Seems it would disrupt the natural balance between $-rich and ISK-rich players.
If that was the case, I wonder what would happen if PLEX had an expiration date. Say 6 months. EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
3441
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:49:00 -
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Pheusia wrote:Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:This is ridiculous In all fairness, the velocity of price increases on Plex are ridiculous this year. Whatever the cause[s], it needs to be addressed, asap. For CCP's defense I think they're aware of the issue and doing their best to adress it properly. But it's not easy. They can't sell unlimited amounts of plexes on the market, they can't stop people from stockpiling 2000 plexes, the only thing they can do is setting up a max price, but I'm not quite sure they're ready for that yet. They will have to anyway at some point just to calm down speculation because it's getting crazy. Maybe one day someone will realize that free market can't work in a game when it's about real money trading. It's their business and they should set the price around what's profitable for them, not around what players want it to be. An option not yet explored is simply lowering the price of PLEX. The markup compared to a 30-day subscription is pretty huge. Which would mean they'd start competing with their resellers, which is a no go.
If you ant cheaper PLEX, buy them somewhere else.
I pay 26 euro for a 60day GTC. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Sniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
coolzero
Mortis Angelus The Kadeshi
100
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:20:00 -
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imo a plex price should be the same as the monthly subscription fee for eve
but thats just my 2cents |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6355
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:23:00 -
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coolzero wrote:imo a plex price should be the same as the monthly subscription fee for eve
but thats just my 2cents Why?
What is your reasoning for that? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
682
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:37:00 -
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Maybe some perspective is in order? I don't subscribe... to the idea that PLEX being worth a meager four times as much as a Tech 1 BS as a bad thing.
PLEX isn't the only thing the market is adjusting the price of.
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
112
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:49:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Pheusia wrote:Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:This is ridiculous In all fairness, the velocity of price increases on Plex are ridiculous this year. Whatever the cause[s], it needs to be addressed, asap. For CCP's defense I think they're aware of the issue and doing their best to adress it properly. But it's not easy. They can't sell unlimited amounts of plexes on the market, they can't stop people from stockpiling 2000 plexes, the only thing they can do is setting up a max price, but I'm not quite sure they're ready for that yet. They will have to anyway at some point just to calm down speculation because it's getting crazy. Maybe one day someone will realize that free market can't work in a game when it's about real money trading. It's their business and they should set the price around what's profitable for them, not around what players want it to be. An option not yet explored is simply lowering the price of PLEX. The markup compared to a 30-day subscription is pretty huge. Which would mean they'd start competing with their resellers, which is a no go. If you ant cheaper PLEX, buy them somewhere else. I pay 26 euro for a 60day GTC.
if their resellers are all significantly undercutting them already (yours sells for 1/3 less than CCP sell them) then that leaves plenty of scope for a reduction, no? |
TheBank Manager
Feel Uncensored Not Grabbed Underneat
6
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:12:00 -
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Comfirming that plex prices went down for a bit, wich means i could buy plex to add to the stockpile for less isk a pop- ty i will turn more profit when i sell them ( when it hits 1b)
Every time someone creates a"plex prices are silly-thread" i buy an extra 50 to make sure the price goes up more : peiple obviously buy them cuz othewise they cant 'play' grindfest online
Pay with sub or stop playing or just deal with it - aslong as plex are on the ingame market we can/will/must stockpile these pixel-goldbars!"
- i bought 50 more while typing this post -
Thats like 10bil prift rite there! |
Hiply Rustic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:28:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Plex should cost 4b-5b.
I have several I would be willing to let you have at that price point. Feel free to hit me up Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." EvE: Only the stong-willied need apply.
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Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
3515
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:29:00 -
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Quote: if their resellers are all significantly undercutting them already (yours sells for 1/3 less than CCP sell them) then that leaves plenty of scope for a reduction, no?
While that would make obvious sense, I'm not sure things work out that easily.
We don't know business deals. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - Sniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
Hakaari Uisen
Legion of the Southern Cross
2
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:37:00 -
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Equinox Ying wrote:There are always going to be people who moan about the price of PLEX, if the price is high then people buying PLEX to extend game time are going to cry. If the PLEX price goes down then people who buy PLEX, people who save PLEX and CCP in general are going to cry. The Price drops too low and people stop subbing their accounts with monehs and start using PLEX because it is more affordable, and CCP cry some more.
Why would CCP care about in-game PLEX prices? They've already gotten their real life money for said PLEX from whoever purchased it to begin with. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1558
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:50:00 -
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Hakaari Uisen wrote:Equinox Ying wrote:There are always going to be people who moan about the price of PLEX, if the price is high then people buying PLEX to extend game time are going to cry. If the PLEX price goes down then people who buy PLEX, people who save PLEX and CCP in general are going to cry. The Price drops too low and people stop subbing their accounts with monehs and start using PLEX because it is more affordable, and CCP cry some more. Why would CCP care about in-game PLEX prices? They've already gotten their real life money for said PLEX from whoever purchased it to begin with. Because they care about PCU. More people online makes a healthier game.
PLEX prices aren't a problem per se, but if they're going up mainly because people are hoarding them, using them to buy clothes, or training a secondary character on an account, CCP get the same revenue but (arguably) a less lively game. EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
113
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:59:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Hakaari Uisen wrote:Equinox Ying wrote:There are always going to be people who moan about the price of PLEX, if the price is high then people buying PLEX to extend game time are going to cry. If the PLEX price goes down then people who buy PLEX, people who save PLEX and CCP in general are going to cry. The Price drops too low and people stop subbing their accounts with monehs and start using PLEX because it is more affordable, and CCP cry some more. Why would CCP care about in-game PLEX prices? They've already gotten their real life money for said PLEX from whoever purchased it to begin with. Because they care about PCU. More people online makes a healthier game. PLEX prices aren't a problem per se, but if they're going up mainly because people are hoarding them, using them to buy clothes, or training a secondary character on an account, CCP get the same revenue but (arguably) a less lively game.
Yes indeed. CCP's customers are also EVE's content. It would be better for CCP to have an extra 10,000 people logging in even if that meant they weren't getting any more money, because the additional content those 10k people provide would attract, convert and retain still more customers. |
TheBank Manager
Feel Uncensored Not Grabbed Underneat
7
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Posted - 2014.07.23 13:29:00 -
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Pheusia wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Hakaari Uisen wrote:Equinox Ying wrote:There are always going to be people who moan about the price of PLEX, if the price is high then people buying PLEX to extend game time are going to cry. If the PLEX price goes down then people who buy PLEX, people who save PLEX and CCP in general are going to cry. The Price drops too low and people stop subbing their accounts with monehs and start using PLEX because it is more affordable, and CCP cry some more. Why would CCP care about in-game PLEX prices? They've already gotten their real life money for said PLEX from whoever purchased it to begin with. Because they care about PCU. More people online makes a healthier game. PLEX prices aren't a problem per se, but if they're going up mainly because people are hoarding them, using them to buy clothes, or training a secondary character on an account, CCP get the same revenue but (arguably) a less lively game. Yes indeed. CCP's customers are also EVE's content. It would be better for CCP to have an extra 10,000 people logging in even if that meant they weren't getting any more money, because the additional content those 10k people provide would attract, convert and retain still more customers.
To bad some dont see the obviouse issues here... More players = more upkeep(costs) At one point ccp will spend more then gain if subs get to cheap.. There are limits to eve- one obviouse one is jita ;) another is having to wait 4 days to wait for help incase of acc issues! At this point people are just butthurt cuz plex prices are to damn high **insert memegif** http://cheezburger.com/6058880256 |
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