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Jurik McMoney
Exires Logistics
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Posted - 2014.07.22 20:58:00 -
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I really do not get it.
I want produce something in my POS and it says Job Costs:
1.253.000 ISK <= everything okay 1.260.000 <= insufficient funds to pay job costs
But why? My wallet, obviously, says alot more than 1.260.000 ISK lol
How can I fix this? can't delete signature |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
675
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:01:00 -
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Jurik McMoney wrote:I really do not get it.
I want produce something in my POS and it says Job Costs:
1.253.000 ISK <= everything okay 1.260.000 <= insufficient funds to pay job costs
But why? My wallet, obviously, says alot more than 1.260.000 ISK lol
How can I fix this?
Your POS or Corp POS? I think it wants to take funds from the corp wallet. Not tried it myself. |
Festers Uncle
Shortbus Hauling
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:01:00 -
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If you are in the station trying to start the job at your POS you can't and this is why it is erroring out and giving you the message.
Maybe the message should be, you can't do Remote Jobs from a Station anymore at your POS and the BPO needs to be at the POS now or something like that. |
Jurik McMoney
Exires Logistics
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:03:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Your POS or Corp POS? I think it wants to take funds from the corp wallet. Not tried it myself.
Ha! Okay - I guess it wants to take money from corp wallet.
How can I change it? I built up the pos and somehow it says some of my BPOs are corp BPOs? However - do I have to put my money into corp wallet or is there another way?
Thanks in advance! can't delete signature |
Qoi
Exert Force
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Posted - 2014.07.22 21:15:00 -
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All blueprints put into corp hangars (like all POS industry arrays) are owned by the corp and the jobs are corp owned and paid out of your active corp wallet, there is no way to change that, the POS is a corp asset. |
Kalseth
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
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Posted - 2014.07.23 00:22:00 -
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Qoi wrote:All blueprints put into corp hangars (like all POS industry arrays) are owned by the corp and the jobs are corp owned and paid out of your active corp wallet, there is no way to change that, the POS is a corp asset.
So .. in other words all corps that have more then one persone that does indi is shut down. No way to really track which persone needs to pay what. Let along givving access to all sorts of people to a corp wallet that has funds in it.
All indi in my corp is shut down. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.07.23 00:30:00 -
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Kalseth wrote:Qoi wrote:All blueprints put into corp hangars (like all POS industry arrays) are owned by the corp and the jobs are corp owned and paid out of your active corp wallet, there is no way to change that, the POS is a corp asset. So .. in other words all corps that have more then one persone that does indi is shut down. No way to really track which persone needs to pay what. Let along givving access to all sorts of people to a corp wallet that has funds in it. All indi in my corp is shut down. ... or you just make a public wallet division, set QUERY but not TAKE, assign the wallet with a title (with the other POS indy roles). People can deposit but not withdraw, and they can use the lines.
Nothing has changed here. It was this way pre-Crius. |
Kalseth
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
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Posted - 2014.07.23 01:26:00 -
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I will copie and past my reply here too :P
I am sorry Tau i have mad respect for you and when scrolling through a topic allways stop and read your post but in this case you are not correct. Yes people had to have access to a wallet to do jobs before .. and every corp set up a wallet like that that was empty since it did not cost anything to start a job in a PoS.
Now it does ... cost that is. Now in my realtivly small corp (in WH space) has something like 30 or so people that run indi ether full or part time. How are we as a corp suposed to set up that corp wallet to let them do there jobs but not have the corp pay for them?
The only thing I can see is to seed that wallet division with some isk to get it started then expect the individual to add whatever his cost was to start his jobs. Which would work ... if everyone was honost. If everyone never made a mistack in adding up there job cost. Personaly on a weekend I can start 40 -50 lab jobs and 20 - 30 manutaturing jobs a day. I am supposed to add each of those job cost up as I go and add them to the corp wallet?
That is just dumb. |
Dread Nanana
Action Super Dupper Test Corp
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:21:00 -
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It has ALWAYS worked this way. ALWAYS!
Nothing changed. POS jobs are always corp jobs and funds are taken from corp wallet.
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
675
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:20:00 -
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Dread Nanana wrote:It has ALWAYS worked this way. ALWAYS!
Nothing changed. POS jobs are always corp jobs and funds are taken from corp wallet.
Yea, something changed, like the fact you have to pay costs for jobs at a POS which I never had to before.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:55:00 -
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Kalseth wrote:That is just dumb. I don't disagree.
However, it is what we have, until CCP gives us something less dumb.
Please do post your grievances in the Crius Issues / feedback threads.
CCP Contra wrote:Fixy FixIT wrote:When installing a job at a POS, the cost of installing the job is being taken from the Corp Master Wallet........
Surely, this cost should come from the member who is installing the job. Even better if it was deducted from the member and given to the Corp Master Wallet as charge for using corp labs.
Currently its given to Secure Commerce Commission.
Is this intentional or is it a bug ?
Regards. By Design |
Kalseth
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
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Posted - 2014.07.23 14:21:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:OK, posts incoming, here are some headlines:
- We're in the early stages of implementing an option to let you pay for corp jobs from your personal wallet. ETA ~1 week.
On page 21 of the issues thread Greyscale posted a reply to some issues. This was one of them.
YAY .... as much as it offends my OCD not having all my lines filled at every moment I think its a good thing they are makeing me not do stuff for a whille. |
Mal Nina
The Red Circle Inc. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.07.23 14:44:00 -
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As I stated before the change... there needed to be some way to direct the costs from personal or corporate wallets and in the case of a corporate wallet to define which division.
We have discovered by pure happenstance that whatever corp wallet you have defaulted is the wallet that gets charged. So if players have access to multiple wallets than any one of them may get charged depending on what wallet they last had opened. Corporations also have no way of telling what players are causing what charges to be made. From a fiscal process standpoint the whole thing is broken because you do not know who is creating what charges and for what those charges are. There is no accountability.
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Velicitia
Arma Artificer
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Posted - 2014.07.23 15:24:00 -
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scratch that -- missed the Greyscale post. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
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