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Nina Semiisku
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:42:00 -
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No real question this time, just perhaps providing you with a laugh.
Can you top this cascade of elementary noobishness?
Just left station to go for some exploration, and realize Im out there with the wrong ship, the Punisher instead of the Magnate. I want to re-dock but then someone challenges me for a duell. Not what I had my mind at, but since Id never done that I think, ok, lets try. I accept the challenge, without any clue how the procedure would be. Id assumed one would talk a bit first, agree on some location to go to for the fight or what ships to use. But no: I am shot at immediately...while I hadn't even realized the name of my opponent. What to do? What to do? Oh, yeah, I should change to the "fight"-tab on my overview. Yeah, something's blinking there. What now? Shoot at it! Doesnt work...oh, yeah, I should lock him first. Im deep in armor already. Im shooting, or at least I think I do. Im not sure, Im not even sure if the thing I see on the screen is my own ship. Oh, I should activate tactical..BOOM. Then: BOOM. My mind gets transfered back to the medical bay.
I say gf and briefly explain why I actually didnt provide a gl. He invites me for another one and I accept, telling him that I first need to buy and fit another ship. I do that, hastily, then I'm out again. Another challenge pops up and I accept. Damit, my guns are not grouped. I fiddle around, but cant group them. F*** it. I lock him....wondering, though, why he doesnt blink this time. Im shooting, but no damage seems to reach him. Should I go closer? Oh............... actually I might have better also put some crystals in my lasers......so much for hasty fitting. I go BOOM. Then BOOM again ...and while my consciousness gets transfered back to another clone I realize I didnt upgrade clone after the first podding. F***.
I still type gf again into the still open private chat and he tells me: you seem to have accepted someone else's challenge. I didnt shoot at you. So appently this time I was trying to shoot at the wrong person with my empty lasers.
Honest to god: I didnt make this up.
Oh, and just realize that I actually DO have a question: My security setting is at green....would I need to change that for a duel in high-sec? |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2267
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:54:00 -
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Nope, green means game will allow you to shoot only when it doesn't get you flagged as suspect. That also applies to looting so nobody can trick you into taking from his can and then shoot you without Concord intervention.
And FFS warp your pod out when you explode, start spamming warp button when your ship evidently goes down so when it exploded your pod will warp almost instantly. And do not sit there warp back to station and dock (you might need to wait weapon timer so bounce around until it expires).
And you might want to read and watch some videos on fights and pvp stuff, joining good corp wouldn't hurt too. It's no rocket science to shoot somebody but there's a lot of little details you need to know to maximize your advantage.
But it all sounds like you had some fun so good job :) Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4165
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:58:00 -
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Good story. I will post 2 of mine when I get back to the PC as it requires too much effort to do it on the phone.
As for your Q:
No, safety green lets you shoot legal targets in highsec, when you engage in a duel you and the other party get a limited engagement timer which makes that person a legal target too you.
You only NEED to change the safety setting in highsec if: You want to steal something in space or do another action that result in a 'Suspect' flag, fornwhich your safety setting should be at least Yellow.
Or if you want to shoot a random person, which will make you a 'Criminal' and thuz requires your safety to be set to Red.
On green you can shoot legal targets at any point, this includes: * Fellow corp members if you are in a player corp. * War targets if your player corp is at war. * Suspect pilots * Criminal pilots * Outlaws (people with a sec status of -5.0 or lower) * People you have a limited engagemant timer with. * People you have killrights against. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Marc Durant
52
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Posted - 2014.07.23 08:32:00 -
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Me and a friend started playing EVE at the same time, we were happily mining away (as newbies do) saving up for our cruiser and then when we finally both got our thoraxes to mine with (...) we got bored and decided we wanted to shoot something, anything. We asked in help chat if we could shoot each other and the answer was "only if you're in the same corp", and were were in the same corp... the NPC corp.
So with that limited (and as it turned out lacking) information we put some weapons on our thoraxes and went to a planet, but still kinda scared about a possible outcome so when we counted down to start shooting each other I decided to wait just a second longer before pulling the trigger. He shot, he went red, I shot him and a few seconds later the space police arrives and nukes him down.
He doesn't say a word, he logs off, he disconnects from TeamSpeak and he didn't come back on voice for a solid week. He never played EVE again. Yes, yes-áI am. Thanks for noticing.
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Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
14393
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Posted - 2014.07.23 09:02:00 -
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Nice story.
Sorry to hear you had such a bad day, but good on you for diving in and having a crack twice, and seeming to come out the other side laughing at your own oversights. Better luck next time!
My first T3 loss was to a control tower, lost two more recently to faction police because I'm so awesome at this game. We all have our noob moments, don't worry! Some more than others.
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Soloman Jackson
Locust Assets
24
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:28:00 -
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I was only playing for a few days and me and my brother were out in our frigates hunting for rats. We finally find a group of four and I quickly start locking them up as my brother closes the distance to the hostiles. I'm just shift clicking on everything I see as I shoot at what is locked. Suddenly I get a pop up. "Damn" I think as my view of what is going on is blocked. I quickly, without reading it, clear the screen. I try to shoot at the next locked target, nothing. The pop up comes back. I glance at it and cancel it out. I tell my brother over the phone that it won't let me shoot at a rat. The pop up comes back and I see the word safety or something and change mine from green to red. YES! It allowed me to shoot it, I thought.... Then "The Man" arrived on grid and quickly popped my ship.
I had locked my brother and was trying to shoot him without realizing what was going on. We both laughed and he salvaged my wreck as flew my pod to station.
That was my first of many newb moments in Eve.... "I heard you know a thing or two, about a thing or two. Maybe we can come to an understanding..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayJLlQhcK0I |
Samuel Triptee
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
45
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:53:00 -
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The EVE learning curve is more than steep.
It's said to take 10,000 hours to become master at nearly anything.
In EVE it takes 10,000 ships. |
Nina Semiisku
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.07.23 15:27:00 -
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Hey, thanks for your answers! Good to see there is a sense of humor here....me at least I laughed my a** out afterwards: what a brilliant display of clownishness.Should make a profession out of it! (Is dumbest-PvPer a career path in Eve? Can I take entry fees for that? ;)
And thanks for the explanations re. security settings!
....one thing I realized, seriously: I always found the often posted suggestion of "get yourself three dozen cheap frigs, fly to low-sec, and get them all blown up" slightly counter-intuitive-----but now I realize just how much these few seconds of PvP layed bare my ignorance and how much I learned from it. Perhaps just go there and have yourself blown up is really the way to learn. |
Toshiro Hasegawa
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
35
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Posted - 2014.07.23 15:36:00 -
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I can not top that as i am unwilling to do what you did ..
I have never accepted a duel. I assume that even the day 2 player will kick my butt . and hit the "no thanks" button.
Lame ? Yes. Am I ok with being lame? Yes.
Your tale of woe makes almost possitive you will do well in eve . i think you "get it" even more than i do. Please carry on .. although i would suggest joining a corp -- maybe even something like RvB to get some pvp skills up in a more .. structured environment. History is the study of change. |
Samuel Triptee
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
45
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Posted - 2014.07.23 15:36:00 -
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Nina Semiisku wrote:...
....one thing I realized, seriously: I always found the often posted suggestion of "get yourself three dozen cheap frigs, fly to low-sec, and get them all blown up" slightly counter-intuitive-----but now I realize just how much these few seconds of PvP layed bare my ignorance and how much I learned from it. Perhaps just go there and have yourself blown up is really the way to learn.
Now you're getting somewhere... hehehe...
Fly it like you don't care if it gets blown up!
CHEERS! |
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Rose of Shadow
BUMP POW
12
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:38:00 -
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Nina Semiisku wrote:Hey, thanks for your answers! Good to see there is a sense of humor here....me at least I laughed my a** out afterwards: what a brilliant display of clownishness.Should make a profession out of it! (Is dumbest-PvPer a career path in Eve? Can I take entry fees for that? ;)
And thanks for the explanations re. security settings!
....one thing I realized, seriously: I always found the often posted suggestion of "get yourself three dozen cheap frigs, fly to low-sec, and get them all blown up" slightly counter-intuitive-----but now I realize just how much these few seconds of PvP layed bare my ignorance and how much I learned from it. Perhaps just go there and have yourself blown up is really the way to learn.
Join the group, we've got Jackets!
May your explosions be pretty and plentiful :P
I am collecting quite an extensive list of deaths and so are my fellow lowbie PvP friends in EVE. It's all about learning though :)
Shoot me a conversation if you want to fly sometime :D it'll be fun ;) |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5760
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:07:00 -
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Nina Semiisku wrote:Can you top this cascade of elementary noobishness? Yep. I made a whole thread full of it. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Degnar Oskold
Justified Chaos
113
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:47:00 -
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Nina Semiisku wrote:Hey, thanks for your answers! Good to see there is a sense of humor here....me at least I laughed my a** out afterwards: what a brilliant display of clownishness.Should make a profession out of it! (Is dumbest-PvPer a career path in Eve? Can I take entry fees for that? ;)
And thanks for the explanations re. security settings!
....one thing I realized, seriously: I always found the often posted suggestion of "get yourself three dozen cheap frigs, fly to low-sec, and get them all blown up" slightly counter-intuitive-----but now I realize just how much these few seconds of PvP layed bare my ignorance and how much I learned from it. Perhaps just go there and have yourself blown up is really the way to learn.
I approve of your PVP learning plan and have sent you 20 million ISK to help fund it. |
Praxis Ginimic
Whine T3ar Brewery Blood.Drunk
835
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Posted - 2014.07.23 18:15:00 -
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I also like your ilk.
Sendng ships as soon as I can log on. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4169
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Posted - 2014.07.23 19:51:00 -
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As promised, here are my 2 stories that easily top off yours
1.
Imagine me just being in EVE. About 1 month old and just decided to join my first corp. Not knowing what I know now, I joined the first possible corp that spotted my interest and it looked fine. 1 week later, wardec. None of the "vets" told me what that means and what you should and shouldn't do. Let's just say that by trial and error (mainly error...aka 5 ships) I learned not to undock from a station when there are 3 war targets right outside on the undock.
2.
Fast forward just a couple of months (maybe 2). I received a good x-mas bonus from work, so cashed a part of it in for some PLEX in Jita. Now, I notice that if I do 3 jumps, I can sell them for 380mil instead of the 365mil in Jita (yeah, that was the price of a PLEX back then), so bought myself a Badger and loaded it up with the PLEX, a Hulk and Covetor and some skillbooks and hit the undock button...you can guess how long that Badger survived in Jita.
Ooh, and all 4 PLEX did drop, so someone was happy, but it wasn't me.
For more stupid things, see the thread that Shah linked above. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
266
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:55:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Nice story. Sorry to hear you had such a bad day, but good on you for diving in and having a crack twice, and seeming to come out the other side laughing at your own oversights. Better luck next time! My first T3 loss was to a control tower, lost two more recently to faction police because I'm so awesome at this game. We all have our noob moments, don't worry! Some more than others.
I did that once. I was day tripping in a wh and warpped to a moon. I was blapped by the pos while I was checking out the sites. Later the pos owner convo'd me to ask why my wreck was outside his pos.
Then there was the time I lost my first tempest in the very first lvl 4 I tried. No one told me the rats could scram.
Everybody derps.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
Johnathan Coffey
Triforce Niggas
9
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Posted - 2014.07.24 09:40:00 -
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A buddy of mine once went AFK in a lvl4 mission without turning his shield booster on. The only thing more embarrassing than losing a two billion tengu is losing it to mission rats. First rule of EVE UI: right click EVERYTHING. |
Keno Skir
Frankenmouse Inc
697
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Posted - 2014.07.25 02:10:00 -
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I got my first Command Ship (Abso) concorded when i tried to shoot a war target who wasn't a war target anymore :D I had given her red standing previously when i was sizing up their corp before the dec. A few days after the initial dec the player had dropped corp, and shortly later been discovered by me floating outside a station. I mistook the red standing for the usual wardec marker and opened up, scrammed and webbed her but didn't even get a shot off before i was ecm'd and neuted by concord and 700mil in Command Ship went pop..
Love this game :D BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
Keno Skir
Frankenmouse Inc
697
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Posted - 2014.07.25 02:14:00 -
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Nina Semiisku wrote:....one thing I realized, seriously: I always found the often posted suggestion of "get yourself three dozen cheap frigs, fly to low-sec, and get them all blown up" slightly counter-intuitive-----but now I realize just how much these few seconds of PvP layed bare my ignorance and how much I learned from it. Perhaps just go there and have yourself blown up is really the way to learn.
That method is in my opinion the single best way to get into PvP quickly. Do it, seriously it isn't just something people say.
BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
Johnathan Coffey
Triforce Niggas
12
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:23:00 -
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Heh, I just remembered: a few years ago I tried haul a Caldari Navy invul from Jita to Amarr in a Mammoth. What could possibly go wrong? First rule of EVE UI: right click EVERYTHING. |
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1604
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:34:00 -
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Mistakes are common, and funny.
There was once a neutral rifter sitting outside of my lowsec station. I was in a coercer.
I thought 'he'll probably dock up, but my dps could kill him in time'.
So I engaged. He was taking lots of damage, but so was I - even more so.
I thought 'wtf? this rifter dude is hitting pretty hard!'.
Then I popped to station guns. EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
Nina Semiisku
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:22:00 -
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Degnar Oskold wrote:
I approve of your PVP learning plan and have sent you 20 million ISK to help fund it.
Why, thank you! To honor your gift I build a nice coercer, named it Degnar Oskolt 1, and joint a little fleet under the commando of Azda Ja in low-sec. The Degnar Oskolt 1 met its destination in beauty and lit the sky for a moment.
The Degnar Oskolt 2 is already build and will take bloody revange tomorrow!
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Kerrec Snowmane
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:40:00 -
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At the time, I was doing level 4 missions in my Thorax. Took time and was challenging, but the challenge was fun. Then I got The Blockade and got in real trouble by shooting too many triggers and getting shut down with all the damps. I spent a lot of time warping in and out, repairing, warping in and out, repairing and so on before I admitted to myself I was screwed.
My solution was to train battlecruisers 1 and buy myself a Brutix. I buffer fit it with my poor skills and proceeded to do the same thing. Warp to zero (because I didn't know I could dictate my warp in distance, not that it would have mattered with all the damps), kill a ship, warp out to repair. Repeat until it all got under control after several hours.
I was so proud to have un-f'd myself out of that situation with my shiny new Brutix that I couldn't really afford to replace if I lost. The next mission was to go loot Quafe from a warehouse and bring it back. Done many times in my Thorax, it is quick because you don't even need to fight. I decided to take my Brutix just because it was my nice new ship.
So I flew to the warehouse, looted the cargo, and engaged the warp back to station. Considering I needed to align and speed up, I had enough time to decide to shoot the couple of frigates closing in before I got into warp. Which I did. Which spawned more frigates that happened to be within scram and web range. Which they did before I got into warp. They proceeded to orbit me so I couldn't hit them. I panicked and watched my irreplaceable Brutix slowly die.
I never thought to launch the drones in the drone bay. Not that it would have mattered, it was a pretty **** fit with no supporting skills and it didn't take that long to melt. |
Degnar Oskold
Justified Chaos
115
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:15:00 -
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Nina Semiisku wrote: Why, thank you! To honor your gift I build a nice coercer, named it Degnar Oskolt 1, and joint a little fleet under the commando of Azda Ja in low-sec. The Degnar Oskolt 1 met its destination in beauty and lit the sky for a moment.
The Degnar Oskolt 2 is already build and will take bloody revange tomorrow!
SRP pay out, I just sent you 10 million to replace the Degnar Oskold 1 . It was not a bad fit, shame about the Hurricane
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
884
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:31:00 -
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Nina Semiisku wrote:No real question this time, just perhaps providing you with a laugh.
Can you top this cascade of elementary noobishness?
Just left station to go for some exploration, and realize Im out there with the wrong ship, the Punisher instead of the Magnate. I want to re-dock but then someone challenges me for a duell. Not what I had my mind at, but since Id never done that I think, ok, lets try. I accept the challenge, without any clue how the procedure would be. Id assumed one would talk a bit first, agree on some location to go to for the fight or what ships to use. But no: I am shot at immediately...while I hadn't even realized the name of my opponent. What to do? What to do? Oh, yeah, I should change to the "fight"-tab on my overview. Yeah, something's blinking there. What now? Shoot at it! Doesnt work...oh, yeah, I should lock him first. Im deep in armor already. Im shooting, or at least I think I do. Im not sure, Im not even sure if the thing I see on the screen is my own ship. Oh, I should activate tactical..BOOM. Then: BOOM. My mind gets transfered back to the medical bay.
I say gf and briefly explain why I actually didnt provide a gl. He invites me for another one and I accept, telling him that I first need to buy and fit another ship. I do that, hastily, then I'm out again. Another challenge pops up and I accept. Damit, my guns are not grouped. I fiddle around, but cant group them. F*** it. I lock him....wondering, though, why he doesnt blink this time. Im shooting, but no damage seems to reach him. Should I go closer? Oh............... actually I might have better also put some crystals in my lasers......so much for hasty fitting. I go BOOM. Then BOOM again ...and while my consciousness gets transfered back to another clone I realize I didnt upgrade clone after the first podding. F***.
I still type gf again into the still open private chat and he tells me: you seem to have accepted someone else's challenge. I didnt shoot at you. So appently this time I was trying to shoot at the wrong person with my empty lasers.
Honest to god: I didnt make this up.
Oh, and just realize that I actually DO have a question: My security setting is at green....would I need to change that for a duel in high-sec? Thanks for sharing, this made me smile. Take some time to read up on pvp online before your next excursion, but its great to see someone having fun getting blown up! New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Nina Semiisku
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:26:00 -
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Degnar Oskold wrote:
SRP pay out, I just sent you 10 million to replace the Degnar Oskold 1 . It was not a bad fit, shame about the Hurricane
Mate! Ok, Ill use that for the same purpose....and I promise: Ill give these Isk back. Not to you, as I guess you dont need it, but if Im space-rich in a year or so, Ill sponsor a young pilot myself. Thank you! |
Nina Semiisku
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:46:00 -
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Toshiro Hasegawa wrote:
I have never accepted a duel. I assume that even the day 2 player will kick my butt . and hit the "no thanks" button.
Lame ? Yes. Am I ok with being lame? Yes.
Guess my take on this doesnt matter much so far cause Im just noob, but Id still say this: What I find so amazing and great and immersive about Eve is all these people around....totally different people, doing different things, having different mindsets.
Im on station: I know there are lots of guys on the station right now doing trade, others are manufacturing stuff. Others are in local, trying to get me into their isk-doubling scam.
I leave station and fly around: there is that freighter I pass by, and I know there is a guy flying it, he loaded up cargo somewhere and is flying it to somewhere else.
I land in another system and d-scan. I see there is a group of guys mining belt 4.
I enter a system where factional warfare is going on and I have an idea of what these guys are doing.
I enter a relic-site and I know there can be some guy in there, cloaked, who is hunting explorers like me.
Im reading minerbumper.com and get a good laugh about that part of the game. I read articles at themittani.com and realize that some guys at very high levels are actually playing politics here.
What I mean, is: lame is no category for me. Everybody is doing something, and when Im flying arond in Eve, whatever anyone is doing, it makes me feel that this galaxy is alive, its full of people doing all kinds of things, and if I want to, I can interact with them........even if they dont want that. ;) |
Rykuss
In Praise Of Bacchus
102
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:47:00 -
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Add alcohol to EVE. Hilarity ensues. Can I have your vindicator? |
Nina Semiisku
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2014.07.26 00:55:00 -
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Rykuss wrote:Add alcohol to EVE. Hilarity ensues.
What you mean? Are there people playing this sober?! |
Rykuss
In Praise Of Bacchus
102
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Posted - 2014.07.26 01:53:00 -
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Nina Semiisku wrote:Rykuss wrote:Add alcohol to EVE. Hilarity ensues. What you mean? Are there people playing this sober?!
I've encountered a few, they're really weird.
Can I have your vindicator? |
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