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Alexander Eisenhower
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:23:00 -
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A couple things here, Firstly, I feel like exploration deserves its own forum section.
Secondly, how are data and relic sights different enough to be called by separate names?
Finally, I have been running exploration sites on and off now for a couple weeks and am starting to enjoy them but I am yet to make any serious isk. The combat sites are definitely more fun and from what I have read, more profitable. I just want to know if that is true and if it is true though the security spectrum. I know that combat sights are more profitable in low in null but of coarse it takes a bigger investment and more more risk to run them. What about data and relic sights in null sec. Say I go ahead and set up an astero and fly out to null and find an empty system and find a relic sight, will it be any different than the ones I am running in .5 space?
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Acirimis Rockhound
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:34:00 -
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Alexander Eisenhower wrote: Secondly, how are data and relic sights different enough to be called by separate names?
I think CCP wanted to create immersion that you are either finding ancient relics or you're hacking mainframes to access caches.
Alexander Eisenhower wrote: Finally, I have been running exploration sites on and off now for a couple weeks and am starting to enjoy them but I am yet to make any serious isk.
My first week doing exploration was in an Imicus with lvl 3 archaeology skills and I brought in around 800m, I was doing this in Null sec.
Alexander Eisenhower wrote: The combat sites are definitely more fun and from what I have read, more profitable. I just want to know if that is true and if it is true though the security spectrum. I know that combat sights are more profitable in low in null but of coarse it takes a bigger investment and more more risk to run them.
The fun factor is subjective. In my opinion, I think combat sites are boring. I don't like the idea of sitting in a site for extended periods of times participating in the boring pew pew mechanics this game has, sorry CCP! I still do combat sites from time to time for the sake of variety. Exploration to me is fun because I'm constantly moving around, trying to avoid gate camps, people and I find the mini game to be entertaining. Plus, I like the idea of exploring space and venturing out deep into space(even though all of it is charted already).
Alexander Eisenhower wrote: What about data and relic sights in null sec. Say I go ahead and set up an astero and fly out to null and find an empty system and find a relic sight, will it be any different than the ones I am running in .5 space?
Yes the sites will be different... Null sec sites are more profitable than Highsec, that should be a no brainer. If you mean .4 (Lowsec) vs Nullsec, then I think Nullsec sites spawn Ruins and Databanks which are the the hardest cans to hack in relic and data sites respectively (AKA more money). Most times than not Ruins literally have nothing in them (WTFCCP?!) or they can have in upwards to 77m worth of loot (<3 CCP!).
In general, Data sites have ****. People are going to talk about a popular twitch streamer who found 7b~ worth of drone blueprints from a data site but almost always forget to mention that he found them in an escalation from a previous drone region data site, and that **** is rare. Good luck to you if you plan on going that route to make money.
Alexander Eisenhower wrote: Thanks and fly safe
Good luck! |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:39:00 -
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This sub-forum probably could have been split up into 2 different topic venues but I don't think there's enough action in either venue to actually merit the split.
Anyway.................
Relic sites are suppose to mainly drop Salvage materials. Data sites are suppose to mainly drop Data Core items.
Exploration combat sites is where the ISK is but it's a 50/50 chance at best. Plus you usually gotta contend with competition. The amount of reward and risk will go up as you travel to different security sectors of space from high sec (low reward) to low sec to null sec (high reward).
The only difference between high sec and null sec Hacking sites is that null sec gives more loot.
Good luck to you.
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Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.23 18:34:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote: Exploration combat sites is where the ISK is but it's a 50/50 chance at best.
last week loot: 6 ded 3/10 4 ded 4/10 10-12 unrated drop (not counting small ammo) 1 blue remote small armor repairer. random is random but whew, never been this unlucky. |
Sinnish Saken
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.23 19:27:00 -
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I spent ~6 hours doing relic sites only this weekend and came back with 300mil in loot not including blueprints(maybe 10mil).
The amount of isk risked versus flying a blinged out Tengu makes it worth it. At least until I have enough isk to replace my blinged out Tengu should I fail at not dying, then to the combat sites I go!
On the other hand if I don't want to be bothered with combat I find data/relic sites much more relaxing/casual. |
Acirimis Rockhound
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Posted - 2014.07.24 04:50:00 -
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I want to retract my statement on data sites having **** for loot, most of the ancillary rep BPCs can net a lot of isk if you make the products yourself. Use a cargo scanner first to save yourself a lot of time. |
Holgrak Blacksmith
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.24 14:31:00 -
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I've tried a bit of exploration since moving back to high from SOV null. Unless I've gotten really unlucky, relic and data sites just aren't worth scanning down and warping to, in null I'd say they are on average worth about 30mil per site, in high ive had more like 1.5mil per site.
I've found combat sites a lot more interesting and lucrative, had a few valuable blue frigate size modules from the 10 or so sites I've run. |
Sarius Deteis
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.25 00:04:00 -
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I agree with the above. Sadly Combat seems to be the best money maker. However I can not sneeze at my earnings from Relic/Data. I average 200-300mil a day just running the salvage and cores. No BPC's worth anything yet sadly but I keep waiting for the lottery to hit. You are right on one point. You need to get out of high sec and go to nulsec somewhere so alliance up and get space that is nice and deep.
You may also want to try scanning down WH's and taking a direct to nulsec that way. I will usually hope one to the north and tool around for a few hours (be safe, not a moron) then WH back down south when I can find one. Relic/Data sites in the north seem to be wealthier so worth a look :) |
Jered Hakaaros
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.25 02:12:00 -
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Sarius Deteis wrote:I agree with the above. Sadly Combat seems to be the best money maker. However I can not sneeze at my earnings from Relic/Data. I average 200-300mil a day just running the salvage and cores. No BPC's worth anything yet sadly but I keep waiting for the lottery to hit. You are right on one point. You need to get out of high sec and go to nulsec somewhere so alliance up and get space that is nice and deep.
You may also want to try scanning down WH's and taking a direct to nulsec that way. I will usually hope one to the north and tool around for a few hours (be safe, not a moron) then WH back down south when I can find one. Relic/Data sites in the north seem to be wealthier so worth a look :)
After literally doing hundreds of those sites in Provi I have yet to find a single faction BPC, they are exceptionally rare in this region. Maybe its tied to the truesec of the region? In Fountain/Delve/Querious and other near regions you usually pull a few of them per session.
However, Provi has the Intact Armor Plates which are a great steady source of good ISK, much more so than the occasional faction BPC. So not all hope is lost for us my friend. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.07.25 03:36:00 -
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Tower bpcs are pretty rare - also unless you saw the site spawn, it may have been checked already by a cherry picker, so estimating actual drop rates is very hard, my personal results are one med tower in a few hundred sites.
Runs of 10 combat sites not paying out are uncommon, but everyone will get such a run at some time, particularly in 8/10s |
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