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Verlyn
Sisters of Xambu
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Posted - 2014.07.23 22:11:00 -
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Im looking to combine my long and passed karate experience with either classic JiuJitsu training or Brazilian JiuJitsu, but Im not really sure which one I should go for. I already have plenty of experience with punch and kick techniques obviously but not so much in grabs, locks or any form of ground fighting.
Most people tell me I should go straight to BJJ, which is solely a groundbased techniques, correct? But then Im also wondering what JJ really has that BJJ has not and could also complement with my karate training, or if I should start with classic JJ first and train in BJJ later ?
Any advice from martial art enthusiasts/practitioners here is welcome. Thanks. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.07.23 22:37:00 -
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Ju Jutsu has numerous variations and Brazilian is the one that has excelled due to a heavy concentration on joint locks and the exposure the UFC and the Gracie's gave it. All Ju Jutsu styles focus on close quarter combat with the intent to put the opponent on the ground and subdue them.
I would say that Brazilian Ju Jutsu, as the more recognizable and therefore most available styles to find a school, is by no means the sole effective sub style.
The combo I am personally interested in is Akido and Ju Jutsu. Akido, a soft style, excels at putting your opponent on the ground using only your opponents momentum and then Ju Jutsu excels at finishing things on the ground. I feel this is a great combo as Ju Jutsu is technically a soft style that requires shoots and other take downs before grappling and joint locks take place. Akido is superior for take downs and Ju Jutsu is superior on the ground.
As for karate, which I have a deep background in Shotokan, it is not the best option for street fights imo. Too many individuals have fighting backgrounds that involve ground based styles, of which all of them have techniques meant to take someone down. Yes kicks can be potent, but when one is facing an unknown opponent one is best to keep both feet on the ground as much as possible...imo
EDIT: The thing with Akido, if one is facing a non-martial arts practitioner, is that one could continuously put someone on their back until the attacker gets humiliated and gives up or the cops show up |
Verlyn
Sisters of Xambu
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Posted - 2014.07.23 23:00:00 -
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Heh, some people tell me Aikido can only be used on old women or little kids in a rl situation, but not a heavyweight brute ;)
Thanks for tips |
Slade Trillgon
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Posted - 2014.07.23 23:16:00 -
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The laws of momentum scale to size. Of course I would not try to arm flip a guy that outweighs me 'significantly', but neither would I try to take them down with a shoot The true art of Martial Arts is to know what part of your style to use for the current situation. And if your master is worth their weight they should also teach you that not every fight is winnable and that one should do whatever they can to not have to resort to using their style. Plus most often alcohol is involved when one gets into a fight, at which point using an opponents momentum against them becomes even less of an issue. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
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Posted - 2014.07.23 23:29:00 -
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This guy said it best. Also there is a good gif of Machida using
"Sensei Dean is a BJJ, Aikido, Judo and Japanese JuJitsu black belt. He has an incredible wealth of martial knowledge. You can easily see the influence of his traditional training when you watch his videos in his teachings and his students.
He talks about ranges of combat alot. Aikido is right before the attack. You have to react in that split second where you join with the opponent. Judo is when a ckinch is acheived and BJJ is the ground aspect. All of them are sister arts to old style hard Japanese Jujitsu.
The problem with Aikido is the lack of sparring. Also, the wrist are supported with gloves and tape that most Aikido type wrist locks are not going to work. After many years in striking arts I took Aikido privates for about 2 years after I tore my ACL. I wanted something low impact while healing. I learned alot about distancing, getting off the line of attack, attacking an opponent's center and it made my breakfalls really strong. It really made me want to grapple with resistance. Drilling techniques makes it impossiple to guage your progress. When I started Judo and BJJ guys always commented on how I moved and flowed with techniques. So I guess what I am saying is Aikido can teach you some important things, sport fighting is not one of them. Yes, the skills you learn can transfer over. "
This is also older, but it is actually a good example of an Akido take down being used by Machida.
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