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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
288
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:55:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote: I'm not asking for a dev post. Just dev attention
I think you're just looking for attention, period. Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Erutpar Ambient
The Flying Tigers Black Core Alliance
184
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:56:00 -
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DaReaper wrote: Thats the point. thats why industry NEEDED to be changed. That old code had to die, so new could replace it, something that can have other things built on it. What you are seeing, dear younglings, is a single piece of the picture. Things can now be added and improved because a core mechanic was fixed. There will be bumps and bugs, but they will get ironed out.
I'm not arguing against any of this stuff. I know the code is bad. Everyone knows the code is bad.
But are you really telling me that industry was a TOP priority to combat TiDi???? Do we even have TiDi anymore since the Halloween War is over? I know someone posted the CPU usage % recently. Anyone know where that information is? Something about correlations to war time.
My problem is this. They're priorities are messed up. In our time of strife and stagnation they're choosing to tackle things that have little to no impact on the current climate. While the game is hemorrhaging player activity, they give us something that will not drive any content.
What I want to know is that they're going to get to fixing content drivers.
EvE is in DIRE need of some Hype right now. But we get silence and disenchantment. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8124
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:58:00 -
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CCP not catering to your niche does not mean that their priorities are wrong.
Especially if you think that shaking up the game's economy is not a game changer. That's pretty much THE game changer, the game revolves around the economy. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
758
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:01:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:DaReaper wrote: Thats the point. thats why industry NEEDED to be changed. That old code had to die, so new could replace it, something that can have other things built on it. What you are seeing, dear younglings, is a single piece of the picture. Things can now be added and improved because a core mechanic was fixed. There will be bumps and bugs, but they will get ironed out.
I'm not arguing against any of this stuff. I know the code is bad. Everyone knows the code is bad. But are you really telling me that industry was a TOP priority to combat TiDi???? Do we even have TiDi anymore since the Halloween War is over? I know someone posted the CPU usage % recently. Anyone know where that information is? Something about correlations to war time. My problem is this. They're priorities are messed up. In our time of strife and stagnation they're choosing to tackle things that have little to no impact on the current climate. While the game is hemorrhaging player activity, they give us something that will not drive any content. What I want to know is that they're going to get to fixing content drivers. EvE is in DIRE need of some Hype right now. But we get silence and disenchantment.
Lets see, in this corner we have bitter vets and noobs who are arm chairing, stating 'hey ccp, you know that game that you wrote, know what the code looks like, how system a interacts with system b, knows what is taxing your load and what isn't and you know how you guys know what you want to implement and what needs to be in place before you guys do? ya you are doing i wrong! you should fix XXXX"
vs.
In this corner CCP the guys (and gals) who wrote the code, knows how it works, knows how system a interacts with system b, knows what does what, and what is coming... yea i think they know better what to tackle then you do thank you very much. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
Tajic Kaundur
Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective
54
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:01:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:Tajic Kaundur wrote:roll the static so then, yes, stagnant.... Would you say that Tech 3 power creep has an impact on the PvP climate of WH space? Would you say that Tech 3 power creep especially in regards to logistics impact WH PvP? How effective are reps on Tech 3 Ships in terms of turret damage. 1:5? more?
I've only been in W-space for about 3-4 months at this point, keep that in mind.
It's not really stagnant. At the very least your chain will lead into multiple lowsecs and nullsecs you can poke around in, gank ratters, run DED sites, whatever. I don't think I've ever been sitting in my POS moaning "ughhh i wanna do somethiiiiing", short of when I log in at 3AM and there's 2 people online.
T3s are fine. They're agile battleships with low mass. The only reason we use them is the last part- low mass. If they had as much mass as battleships, we'd just use battleships, because they're cheaper and don't cost skillpoints. The low mass just means we can bring in 20 instead of 5. T3s also almost never effect moving stuff in and out of holes, short of when you get ganked by them because you didn't scout.
Generally you can expect a fleet to be 4 Guardians and 15-20 T3s, so yeah, 1 guardian per 4-5 T3s. That or 1 carrier per 10-15 T3s, but carriers are somewhat rare to see because a) mass and b) seriously dude don't do that we want a fair fight here
Depends on the hole you're in, though, in a Magnetar you need a lot more logi, while in a Pulsar (if you're using shields) you need less, for instance. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
758
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:04:00 -
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Now, Crius could turn out to be CCP's NSE (i forget that god awful star wars galaxies expansion name) but i doubt it In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8124
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:05:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Now, Crius could turn out to be CCP's NSE (i forget that god awful star wars galaxies expansion name) but i doubt it
NGE I believe.
And that already happened for CCP, it was called Incarna. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Erutpar Ambient
The Flying Tigers Black Core Alliance
184
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:18:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:DaReaper wrote:but eve is finally starting to get to the point where soon, TiDi may be a thing of history. Excellent. As a blobber, I look forward to the day we can use all our drones and so on without tidi You won't even get to do this, tidi or not, with the current null sec climate. The likelihood of N3PL and the CFC going to war is abysmal at best. The mechanics to fix this are the same mechanics that will lower engagement sizes out of the mid thousands range. Which may also have a pretty substantial affect on tidi in and of itself.
DaReaper wrote: Sigh...
4-1-1, touch coming (evetually) Valk, legion, eve as one (evetually) more power to players. Industry, corp and alliances, pos, sov, new stuff being fixed (roughly in the order) a more flexible release schedule, hopefully less "hey guys we have this shiney wiht these 5.. no 4.. no 3... no 2... features... the other 3 were cut due to time, we will get to them in 100 years, not new shiney!" If you really can;t see what ccp is doing, with the death of wod and moving dust from ps3 to pc, and valk, then i'm afraid you are blind
So you're using the Trailer as reference to Valk/Legion/Eve as one. I remember once they had this Trailer that showed a Moros bombarding a Dust installation and another where they had a Dust installation shooting a Moros and another shooting a Phoenix. The lesson I learned, Trailers mean absolute sh*t.
And yes, I understand they put up their "to do list" for us to see. But it's totally vague at best. Might as well have said nothing.
This brings us back to what Manny said.
Manfred Sideous wrote: Wild speculation and disenchantment is the product of silence.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8125
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:26:00 -
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And if they give concrete statements, the same people crying now will cry about anything that gets left out for whatever reason. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Erutpar Ambient
The Flying Tigers Black Core Alliance
184
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:30:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:DaReaper wrote:Now, Crius could turn out to be CCP's NSE (i forget that god awful star wars galaxies expansion name) but i doubt it NGE I believe. And that already happened for CCP, it was called Incarna. I'd say this more closely resembles the WoW expansion Cataclysm. They got rid of any shread of inviable skill build so you could no longer make a screw up build. In other words dumbed it down all the way to zero. I would say that incarna would be most comparable to Pandas in that they offended many people. Though maybe not the people who should have actually be offended, but just on the principle of the matter in general.
Tajic Kaundur wrote: T3s are fine. They're agile battleships with low mass.
I would consider HACs to be a better representation of agile, low mass battleships. Why T3's instead of HACs? Is the mass still a factor here? Or is it the force/mass ratio? |
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Erutpar Ambient
The Flying Tigers Black Core Alliance
184
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:33:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:And if they give concrete statements, the same people crying now will cry about anything that gets left out for whatever reason. We need something that impacts the largest areas lacking in conflict. That means Null Sec or Non-FW Low sec. Until those get changed then yes, i'll probably continue to "cry" about the lack of change. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8125
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:35:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:And if they give concrete statements, the same people crying now will cry about anything that gets left out for whatever reason. We need something that impacts the largest areas lacking in conflict. That means Null Sec or Non-FW Low sec. Until those get changed then yes, i'll probably continue to "cry" about the lack of change.
Lowsec has been receiving incremental improvements for a while now. They are getting much more attention than before, especially given that the current CSM has more than a few lowsec advocates as sitting members.
Nullsec is a tricky problem, hard to tackle at the very least. But if you think they just aren't working on anything, then you're being a fool. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5720
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:44:00 -
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Dude I'm on pretty good terms with your corp CEO, tell him to contact me for a lead on a better deal. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Erutpar Ambient
The Flying Tigers Black Core Alliance
184
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:50:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Lowsec has been receiving incremental improvements for a while now. They are getting much more attention than before, especially given that the current CSM has more than a few lowsec advocates as sitting members.
Nullsec is a tricky problem, hard to tackle at the very least. But if you think they just aren't working on anything, then you're being a fool.
First of all, the low sec "incremental improvements" are pretty silly honestly. Oh tags4sec, woooo........ Mordu's Legion weee..... Ok so they gave the people living in Low Sec some extra commodities. That's hardly paramount to an "improvement" to driving conflict (which is what i'm talking about).
What they need to do is remove the bar from low sec by revamping security status rating. New players aren't going to low sec to fight with their security status at risk. And for everyone else it's just an arbitrary thing you can fix by ratting in null sec or buying the cheap ass tags. Basically security status amounts to little more than a bar from some people to PvP in low.
It wouldn't take a huge fix, just some slightly thought out mechanics. That I've already proposed. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345662
How complicated would those changes be? Maybe DaReaper could shed some light on that.
And then null sec, that's easy. Just remove Jump drives and bridges of all kinds. That sould depolarize null sec very effectively. |
Erutpar Ambient
The Flying Tigers Black Core Alliance
184
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:53:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Dude I'm on pretty good terms with your corp CEO, tell him to contact me for a lead on a better deal. This has nothing to do with our "deal" or anything. It's just about the climate of the game for me. And i don't speak for anyone else in my corp. I'm not really sure how they feel about it to be honest. This is just about me. |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3733
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Posted - 2014.07.24 07:28:00 -
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I can reassure you that unless CCP starts releasing actual *content*, EVE is going to decline past the point of no-return within 6-12 months. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Don Purple
338
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Posted - 2014.07.24 08:34:00 -
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Go make a ******* enemy and love it! I am just here to snuggle. |
Victor Andall
656
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Posted - 2014.07.24 09:02:00 -
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OP, I know others probably asked for your stuff already, but I promise I'll treat it right. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8128
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Posted - 2014.07.24 09:03:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:I can reassure you that unless CCP starts releasing actual *content*, EVE is going to decline past the point of no-return within 6-12 months.
I can only imagine what your idea of "content" might be.
Do tell. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Anthar Thebess
607
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Posted - 2014.07.24 09:19:00 -
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Sorry. Like some of my friend stated. Current eve development scheme: 1. CCP NEW expansion is live 2. Players state STOP : this will brake A, B, C, D ... 3. Time passes A mechanic is abused, B is not more viable , C - who use C any more, D why did CCP ever changed this , ... 4. 2 Years pass , CCP notices that something is very wrong 5. Without player consultation , CSM - sorry this is mistake , prepares some changes and new expansion in secret. 6. Go to point 1
Check latest expansion. Yes some stuff is nice , did we needed it - as without it every thing could fall apart , did it change or fix current issues? Yes, NO, NO
Sorry but nice and shiny stuff wont put EVE on right track.
Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
685
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Posted - 2014.07.24 09:46:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:What I want to know is that my waiting for something to happen is not in vain.
This right here is the only thing you have said that says what your real issue with EvE is. And I can tell you with absolute confidence that waiting for something to happen is invariably going to lead to nothing but boredom. Because, even if something happens that you think you are waiting for... you already trained yourself to be bored. So the cycle is going to be endless.
Abandon your EvE life, start with an alt if you don't like base jumping with your main, but by the end of the week, don't be doing what you were doing at the beginning of it.
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Captain Soju
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.07.24 09:50:00 -
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OP i felt like you on several occasions while living in null sec with my previous characters. This is what i did:
- left my corp
- left null sec
- sold all my characters in the bazaar and started fresh with a hefty amount of isk
- moved to high sec and decided to start fresh without any obligation to anyone or anything
And the result:
- Eve feels like a brand new game
- The field is open to try a plethora of activities which are not dictated from my sp or who i play with
- I got motivated to start a blog and record my activities while i rediscover the game
Offcourse you don't have to sell your character or anything like that but you seem to be in need of a semi-radical change in your playstyle? If your eve buddies feel the same why not talk about it and go for something different in the game? An eternal newbie's guide to the world of Eve Online - http://captainsoju.blogspot.co.uk/ |
Anthar Thebess
607
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Posted - 2014.07.24 10:28:00 -
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Captain Soju wrote:OP i felt like you on several occasions while living in null sec with my previous characters. This is what i did:
- left my corp
- left null sec
- sold all my characters in the bazaar and started fresh with a hefty amount of isk
- moved to high sec and decided to start fresh without any obligation to anyone or anything
And the result:
- Eve feels like a brand new game
- The field is open to try a plethora of activities which are not dictated from my sp or who i play with
- I got motivated to start a blog and record my activities while i rediscover the game
Offcourse you don't have to sell your character or anything like that but you seem to be in need of a semi-radical change in your playstyle? If your eve buddies feel the same why not talk about it and go for something different in the game?
Sorry , but higsec is not place for most null, and lowsec players. Many WH groups live only in WH because it is safe gateway to nullsec. Wh mass and random exit defines what can go in and out Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6388
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Posted - 2014.07.24 10:30:00 -
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1) Generate some content, get out of your comfort zone and do something
2) Does no one know how to spell "queue" properly anymore!? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8132
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Posted - 2014.07.24 10:49:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: 2) Does no one know how to spell "queue" properly anymore!?
That implies that most people ever did. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6389
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Posted - 2014.07.24 10:53:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote: 2) Does no one know how to spell "queue" properly anymore!?
That implies that most people ever did.
Imply, Lisa? Or IMPLODE "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
212
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Posted - 2014.07.24 12:23:00 -
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OP, you're playing a game, stop taking this dumb bullshit so serious.
Just relax, do something more productive for a few days, maybe take a walk, go sightseeing.
Eve Online isn't the only source of fun, you know? |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
761
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:25:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:I can reassure you that unless CCP starts releasing actual *content*, EVE is going to decline past the point of no-return within 6-12 months.
I'm going to respectfully disagree. But we will see In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
Aria Jimbojohnson
University of Caille Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:44:00 -
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Owen Levanth wrote:OP, you're playing a game, stop taking this dumb bullshit so serious.
Just relax, do something more productive for a few days, maybe take a walk, go sightseeing.
Eve Online isn't the only source of fun, you know?
If people treated EVE as "just a game", it would have been dead years ago. The actual gameplay is pretty bad. No, it's terrible. It's the conflict, grittiness, and somewhat seriousness that separates EVE from other games. Well, it used to, most of the real conflict is pretty much gone right now. |
Akashi Suenobu
Raven's Flight
9
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Posted - 2014.07.24 15:45:00 -
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Obligatory "if you leave can I have your stuff?" |
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