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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
1943
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:36:00 -
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Maybe they shouldn't release major changes to the codebase that have the chance to break important bits of said codebase while significant parts of the company that could fix the breakage are on summer holiday. |
GenericForumAlt 1267389
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:05:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Andrea Keuvo wrote:How is clearing my cache going to affect CCP reducing a skill by 2 levels because they decide weeks after Kronos to make an unannounced change that directly conflicts what was published in the Kronos dev blog about drone skill changes? Largely because they didn't actually do any such change, and the rest is just to ensure that you're actually seeing the correct numbers. There's a reason why GÇ£clear you cacheGÇ¥ is step #1 on pretty much all problem-solving lists related to EVE.
Just want to point out here the usual Tippia smug...and then they just vanished from the thread when proven wrong. Seriously man not everyone is a raging idiot and you don't have all the answers. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
507
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:07:00 -
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GenericForumAlt 1267389 wrote:Tippia wrote:Andrea Keuvo wrote:How is clearing my cache going to affect CCP reducing a skill by 2 levels because they decide weeks after Kronos to make an unannounced change that directly conflicts what was published in the Kronos dev blog about drone skill changes? Largely because they didn't actually do any such change, and the rest is just to ensure that you're actually seeing the correct numbers. There's a reason why GÇ£clear you cacheGÇ¥ is step #1 on pretty much all problem-solving lists related to EVE. Just want to point out here the usual Tippia smug...and then they just vanished from the thread when proven wrong. Seriously man not everyone is a raging idiot and you don't have all the answers. At least he has the decency to just walk away when proven wrong. I've seen more than one windowlicker here keep on trying, even after being dunked by a dev. |
Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
295
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:50:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Medalyn Isis wrote: I've got nothing against the coder who scripted this skill transfer, mistakes happen. What is annoying though is this issue with the DLA was pointed out multiple times by the community to both CCP Fozzie and Rise, and they simply ignored it. Only then to get some poor coder who is probably fatigued from implementing the massive crius release to do a hash fix for them.
If they actually listened to feedback as Greyscale has done excellently during this Crius transition, then this hash fix would have never been needed in the first place.
To be actually accurate, a bunch of people queried this issue, then checked on Sisi when Kronus was first uploaded there and discovered that the DLA skill requirements hadn't changed at that time. So no skill awarding was needed. The DLA skill requirements was an unannounced change on Sisi less than a week from expansion, meaning unless it was Fozzie & Rise who were responsible for the module skill change, they won't have had time to adjust at that point to the change. The fact a bunch of noise was made a couple of days before a patch for a very late change doesn't mean Fozzie & Rise 'ignored' people. It means someone made a very late change that should have been done earlier so proper follow on adjustments could have occurred. Incorrect, this was flagged up as an issue multiple times. As soon as CCP announced it was making it so scout drone operation was the only skill needed to get everything to V due to the "you could fly it before you can fly it after" mantra,, the inconsistency with this not being applied also to the DLAII was flagged up. That must have been a month before the patch went live.
I was on all the related threads, and there was literally no response from CCP on the issue, they either missed it or simply ignored it.
After seeing how quick Greyscale has responded to feedback for a much more complex set of changes, it really highlights how poor CCP Fozzie and Rise have been on this issue. |
Tarpedo
Incursionista
1361
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:59:00 -
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Confirming, lost level V skill. |
5yndr0m3
Origin. Black Legion.
0
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Posted - 2014.07.25 23:20:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Looool don't tell me they're going to leave this unfixed over the weekend.
why would CCP work over the weekend? they just released a big expansion that is full of bugs. they need to take some time off and celebrate the Crius expansion and CCP Seagulls promotion. Those are more important than fixing EVE or making sure their income source is happy. |
Tara Vorkosigan
Dark Fusion Industries
2
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Posted - 2014.07.26 01:48:00 -
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So, I sent in a support ticket like they said to in this threat. Got a form letter back today that was exactly what was said in this thread, pretty much. Why even bother telling us to send in tickets if all it gets us is a form letter?
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1445
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Posted - 2014.07.26 02:17:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote: Incorrect, this was flagged up as an issue multiple times. As soon as CCP announced it was making it so scout drone operation was the only skill needed to get everything to V due to the "you could fly it before you can fly it after" mantra,, the inconsistency with this not being applied also to the DLAII was flagged up. That must have been a month before the patch went live.
I was on all the related threads, and there was literally no response from CCP on the issue, they either missed it or simply ignored it.
After seeing how quick Greyscale has responded to feedback for a much more complex set of changes, it really highlights how poor CCP Fozzie and Rise have been on this issue.
No, you are trying to rewrite history. A month before the patch went live DLA's on Sisi needed Light Drone Operation to use, not Drone Avionics. The Change of skill to drone avionics was a very last minute change. People were asking questions about it yes, but there was not a skill reallocation issue till a week before the patch went live. Which was when Sisi changed the skill over. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10806
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Posted - 2014.07.26 03:09:00 -
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5yndr0m3 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Looool don't tell me they're going to leave this unfixed over the weekend. why would CCP work over the weekend? Do not twist my words. This should have been fixed today. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6282
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Posted - 2014.07.26 03:49:00 -
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I hope all the ishtarfleets are ok... ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
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ashley Eoner
331
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Posted - 2014.07.26 05:15:00 -
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Most of my characters have been fixed. I sent in tickets on the broken ones yesterday. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
938
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Posted - 2014.07.26 05:22:00 -
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No drones for the weekend. **** ya. |
Gordin Brott
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
17
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Posted - 2014.07.26 08:51:00 -
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I found that my Drone Avionics was reduced to 4 when I tried to fit a ship yesterday afternoon. I petitioned it, and the skill is back at V by this morning. |
Ekcim
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2014.07.26 09:41:00 -
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Gordin Brott wrote:I found that my Drone Avionics was reduced to 4 when I tried to fit a ship yesterday afternoon. I petitioned it, and the skill is back at V by this morning. Consider yourself lucky. All I got was a copy-paste response to go to this thread, even though I wrote that I was making the ticket because of this thread. |
SuiSmurf
RedBox inc. Ocularis Inferno
0
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Posted - 2014.07.26 10:18:00 -
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All I got in response to my petition is that they were looking into it and a link to 2 threads. But while they wait fixing it I can't get my ISK making running, I need that range, especially as my main ratting toon is down to 3....
I want it fixed, I'm gonna miss out on 1 B because I usually run in the weekends.... |
Gordin Brott
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
17
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Posted - 2014.07.26 11:18:00 -
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Ekcim wrote:Gordin Brott wrote:I found that my Drone Avionics was reduced to 4 when I tried to fit a ship yesterday afternoon. I petitioned it, and the skill is back at V by this morning. Consider yourself lucky. All I got was a copy-paste response to go to this thread, even though I wrote that I was making the ticket because of this thread.
I got the copy/pasted response, but upon checing my character, the skill was back to V. There was no mention of it being fixed in the petition response. |
Panther Sieg
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.07.26 11:42:00 -
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Skill at V, log says GM "gift" lvl 4, can`t use DLA II, cleared cache, the same...this is after the downtime too... |
Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2014.07.26 11:46:00 -
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Better invest time into training it, if the change was so synthetic it could have been undone, it can happen again, and again... |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
507
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:02:00 -
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Given the current Ishtar meta, I take this bug to mean that there won't be much PvP this weekend. |
Patrick Berlin
Tengoo Uninstallation Service Pasta Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:12:00 -
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It worked yesterday, then it was broken again today? pewpew |
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Khan Dhu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:35:00 -
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Add me to this list.
Furthermore, I'm almost 100% certain I had Scout and Combat Drone Operation V trained (which turned into Drone Avionics), and it's now at Level IV. The reason I suspect this is that I have it trained on my main *and* my second alt. It's not something I would have neglected on this character, especially since it's a requirement for T2 DLAs, which are a Capswarm requirement. I'd even eat the 4d1h to get it back up to Level V, but...
When I try to add it to queue and start it? No dice. When I try to force-train it by right-clicking it and telling it to override the current queue? No dice. Clearing my cache? No dice.
I want to sell this character eventually. He has more than 157m SP, and not having such a basic yet wholly necessary skill for such a character to have (especially in the era of carriers being the new 'battleship') is a big hole in his sheet, but I'm suspecting that "skill points" is one of those "will get to before the heat death of the universe" priorities at CCP support.
Oh, and I love the new forum rules..."you cannot post for another five minutes because your account is less than two days old."
I'm sure it's because I've never posted to the new(er) forums under this name before, but this character was created in March 2006. I'm also not trying to post, but rather *edit* this one. Christ. |
Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
295
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:07:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Medalyn Isis wrote: Incorrect, this was flagged up as an issue multiple times. As soon as CCP announced it was making it so scout drone operation was the only skill needed to get everything to V due to the "you could fly it before you can fly it after" mantra,, the inconsistency with this not being applied also to the DLAII was flagged up. That must have been a month before the patch went live.
I was on all the related threads, and there was literally no response from CCP on the issue, they either missed it or simply ignored it.
After seeing how quick Greyscale has responded to feedback for a much more complex set of changes, it really highlights how poor CCP Fozzie and Rise have been on this issue.
No, you are trying to rewrite history. A month before the patch went live DLA's on Sisi needed Light Drone Operation to use, not Drone Avionics. The Change of skill to drone avionics was a very last minute change. People were asking questions about it yes, but there was not a skill reallocation issue till a week before the patch went live. Which was when Sisi changed the skill over. I created a thread which ended up being on the front page of GD for around a month, so I remember events well. Everyone seemed to believe that combat drone operation, which was now being changed to drone avionics, would unlock the DLAII.
Singularity is never very accurate either, so I wouldn't trust anything which is on there is going to be implemented on to Tranquillity exactly as seen.
The point is, they didn't listen and did multiple u turns before the actual release date. And there was absolutely no response to the DLA issue which was flagged up multiple times. If you can link me a response from CCP on this issue then that would make your case a lot stronger, but I doubt that you can, and I can link multiple posts of people flagging up the DLA issue including from myself.
Hopefully you can see why I have little sympathy for them at this time.
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PsoulSummoner
I'm Fine and You The Bastion
0
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Posted - 2014.07.26 15:42:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:Most of my characters have been fixed. I sent in tickets on the broken ones yesterday.
Must be nice. I sent tickets for my characters on the 24th. Still no dice. Just a nice message saying we know about the problem. |
Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
631
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Posted - 2014.07.26 15:59:00 -
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As an idiot who misread the dev blog about the drone changes and trained CDO to V instead of SDO, I don't feel so bad anymore... Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help. |
Khal-dari Deathlord
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.27 07:09:00 -
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Andrea Keuvo wrote:Edit: After I had some coffee I learned to read and saw the decrease in skill levels was likely a bug and is now confirmed by CCP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4838181#post4838181From the Kronos dev blog: "Finally, we are renaming two drone skills to clarify their roles. The Scout Drone Operation skill is being renamed GÇ£Drone Avionics""
At least I wasn't the only one upset about having to train drone avionics to level 5 again. On the other hand now I will get more distance with my drones. *sigh* now to train my sh*t back up again. *Palm to forehead* |
Vukae Dhoul
Lazerhawks
6
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Posted - 2014.07.27 12:25:00 -
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Two of the three characters I had this happen to have been fixed in-game (with no petition submitted). ...
Edit: Actually, nope, still not fixed. Character sheet shows 5, but can't fit a DLA2. |
Otman Vos
Kruxwaffe
0
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Posted - 2014.07.27 15:34:00 -
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Vukae Dhoul wrote:Two of the three characters I had this happen to have been fixed in-game (with no petition submitted). ...
Edit: Actually, nope, still not fixed. Character sheet shows 5, but can't fit a DLA2.
Same here. EVEMon says the skill is at 4 at 18% trained. in-game it shows at 5 so even if I wished to train it, i can't. But my Drone Link Augmentor II insists that I don't have the prerequisites, even if I do and it shows that in the item's Info/Requirements. |
mow hawk
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.27 18:59:00 -
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Yea....
Sort of the same problem here.
This morning I logged on and noticed that I couldn't fit my DLA2's on my mission ship anymore. I looked at my skills and my Drone Avionics was "gifted" to level 3....
I thought the update just screwed me so I tried to train it, and I got that illegal skill queue crap.
I filled out a ticket and a bug report (yes, both of them, I was in panic mode) and logged on a few hours later and was able to queue the skill again, which still doesn't help my DLA2's that are already fitted and now useless...but hey, if I got screwed out of the level 5 skill I can at least queue the 4 days if needed. |
Sacu Shi
Apex Industries Lynchpin Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
34
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:56:00 -
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Bug report - check Ticket - check
not yet fixed - still waiting... |
Orion Pax
Yoyodyne corporation Shadow Cartel
17
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Posted - 2014.07.27 21:23:00 -
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I just noticed that my Drone Avionics is at IV when it should be at V. CCP should have just reimbursed the old Scout Drone Operation and Combat Drone Operation skill points and given everyone 2 remaps then none of this would be happening. |
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