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Dread Operative
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2014.07.25 00:52:00 -
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Now that it was discovered that Mirana was live streaming fleets including coms and fleet chats he will more then likely stop or not give up any more of the juicy bits. Sad panda.
From the live stream - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2AwHN1-d2U |
ERMAGERD SPERSSHERPS
Taskforce 626
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Posted - 2014.07.25 01:13:00 -
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Seems Gal Mil DOES have an internal war brewin! |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.07.25 01:53:00 -
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Put spy alt in fleet, problem solved Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Capitol One
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2014.07.25 02:03:00 -
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HIGH LEVEL SNUFF BOX SPY UNCOVERED!
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Commander Razama
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 02:49:00 -
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No just a guy who didn't know what he was doing. This is what we know:
1. He left all the chats open to be read so the intel channel names are revealed. However its not a huge issue because most of those you need permissions etc.
2. The stream delay was almost non existant. If you are going to stream at least 5-7 min. at least. We can deal in the world of coulda, woulda, shoulda, and the "well this would have never happened if" Whats done is done its over now.
3. We know hes not a spy hes just ********. As other people have told him the price of TWITCH "fame" comes at a cost. Its a bit on his part to let people know he is streaming the fleet and the FC understands the fleet is being streamed. Also if the FC isn't sure make it clear when they start the fleet that this is a no stream fleet.
4. We in Gal mil are often times not fond of one another however when it comes to putting aside our crap we work together. We can and will overcome this "drama" and move on. No one is gonna go to war over this.
I personally have nothing against twitch streaming when done right. I think its good for the community of Eve and FW and i hope it cont.'s. |
Liam Inkuras
Top Belt Heroes
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Posted - 2014.07.25 04:18:00 -
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Lol spaceship drama I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance
531
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:14:00 -
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Here at Gallente Militia HQ we are known for our secure comms and excellent metagaming skills.
Some corps even take urine, blood and sperm / love juice samples before you can fly with them.
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Danny John-Peter
Snuff Box
455
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:46:00 -
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Capitol One wrote:HIGH LEVEL DRAMA BOX SPY UNCOVERED!
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:00:00 -
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Should be common sense, really.
If you're live streaming while in fleet --> inform the FC. He's the dude/chick that took the responsibility for everybody's enjoyment.
. If it's ok with him/her --> go for it . If it's not --> stream from an out-of-fleet (and out-of-comms) ship, fly solo or form your very own 'show fleet' EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
Motorbit
HildCo Interplanetar Villore Accords
35
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:25:00 -
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if i was caldari, i would laugh at us hard, too. if i was funky beacon, i would die in shame.
anyway. im sure if it comes to the next csm vote players will remember. even these that benefited this time will know its that guy who abused his position to generate a personal profit from selling out his allies. |
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Abannans Forum Alt
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:19:00 -
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he's done this for years and you've only clocked on now? |
Quentin Marshall
15
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:56:00 -
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1. Dropping the N-bomb. That's classy
2. I'm amused at their desire to only want to fly derptrons for the rest of the night. More class.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1020
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:05:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:1. Dropping the N-bomb. That's classy
Confirming that all people who play eve are while males.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:39:00 -
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It was part of our metagame. At the end of the stream Thanatos Marathon stated that the seige of Okkamon was over and Black Fox was done. It worked!
Squids then went home and we blitzed the system (see Burn Okkamon thread)
Than is crazy, crazy like a black fox! |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:45:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Than is crazy, crazy like a black fox! I see what you did there...
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:24:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote: 2. I'm amused at their desire to only want to fly derptrons for the rest of the night. More class.
Just think how dominant we'd be if we actually shipped up into a real pvp ship.
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SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:31:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Quentin Marshall wrote: 2. I'm amused at their desire to only want to fly derptrons for the rest of the night. More class.
Just think how dominant we'd be if we actually shipped up into a real pvp ship. I'm pretty sure we are barred from doing so. It is considered an exploit. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:39:00 -
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SmokinJs Arthie wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Quentin Marshall wrote: 2. I'm amused at their desire to only want to fly derptrons for the rest of the night. More class.
Just think how dominant we'd be if we actually shipped up into a real pvp ship. I'm pretty sure we are barred from doing so. It is considered an exploit. Yup. Just look at what happened when PERUNGA took out his shield AFs against Bohica's Ishtar fleet! |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
251
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:50:00 -
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To be fair Shield AFs are very stronk, and Bohica is pretty damn bad. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Castnicke Rinah
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
15
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:16:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:To be fair Shield AFs are very stronk, and Bohica is pretty damn bad.
Hey now, don't be mean. |
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Motorbit
HildCo Interplanetar Villore Accords
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Posted - 2014.07.26 08:50:00 -
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wrong topic. |
Maekchu
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
44
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Posted - 2014.07.26 17:19:00 -
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You ****** the morale... You hear me. YOU ****** THE MORALE OF THE FLEET.
This is basically what I got out of this.
But much drama and much entertainment. :D |
Dread Operative
Snuff Box
335
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Posted - 2014.07.27 02:41:00 -
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PERUNGA talks down on all other GalMil corps and blames others for fleet moral. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1023
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Posted - 2014.07.27 02:45:00 -
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Dread Operative wrote:PERUNGA talks down on all other GalMil corps and blames others for fleet moral.
Hows that F1 button holding up?
Looks like you are having a boring old time there in SNUFD's legendary US TZ. |
Dread Operative
Snuff Box
335
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Posted - 2014.07.27 03:47:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Dread Operative wrote:PERUNGA talks down on all other GalMil corps and blames others for fleet moral. Hows that F1 button holding up? Looks like you are having a boring old time there in SNUFD's legendary US TZ. I think you have more posts this month than kills.
The butt hurt is too stronk! Over 9000!!!!!!! |
DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
297
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Posted - 2014.07.27 03:49:00 -
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Abannans Forum Alt wrote:he's done this for years and you've only clocked on now?
Pretty much this. I've streamed tons of fights and offensives, the only thing that was different this time is that Gal Mil lost a fight, and I got blamed for it. They lost that fight more because they took 30 brawling cruisers and put them against 70 something other brawling cruisers than because they were streamed. Prior to that fight the stream was up for 4 hours with nothing but Gallente victories, including a Shield AF fleet dunking a Bohica Ishtar fleet.
I do the streams to show folks how much fun we have in FW and to promote our style of fighting, which is quite a bit different from other areas of Eve's PVP. The comments claiming fame whoring are a bit off as I've been a public face in Eve for nearly 8 years now and am reasonably well known as it is. I don't need twitch to promote myself.
What I DO want is a more robust, and larger FW community out in space fighting. Twitch is a far better medium to promote that cause than radio or blogging. I can tell people how awesome the fun we have is until I'm blue in the face, but nothing beats actually showing it.
I've discussed the incident in question with several of our FCs, and we've worked things out since the youtube meltdown. A couple people's feelings are still hurt, which can't be helped any further at this point, and the rest of us have moved on. The small gang stuff I do is likely to continue to be relatively free of delay and censored information, but any fleet action moving forward will likely have several minutes of delay and parts of the screen covered based on the discretion of the FC for that fleet. CSM9 Factional Warfare/Lowsec Representative Radio Host, Blogger, Lowsec Resident, PvP Afficionado. http://funkybacon.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/FunkyBacon |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.27 03:59:00 -
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I've said before and I'll say again since you want to keep talking about it, we would have lost that fight with or without the stream, that one fight wasn't why people were so angry at you. Five hours of streaming without mentioning you were streaming everything with only a 45 second delay and showing intel channels and including all of fleet coms is why people were and are angry.
During a system siege you will lose fights, you will win fights. Being outnumbered 2 to 1 you will lose more than you win, you just try to slow down their ability to complete plexes and put stress on their logistics by killing their fleet critical ships before you go down.
P.S. We miss yah Dread, hope you are having fun. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Dread Operative
Snuff Box
335
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Posted - 2014.07.27 04:06:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote: P.S. We miss yah Dread, hope you are having fun.
Miss you guys too! It'summer time in sunny Cali and I haven't logged many Eve hours the last couple months. I'll see you around when i get active when school starts. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1023
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Posted - 2014.07.27 04:29:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:I've said before and I'll say again since you want to keep talking about it, we would have lost that fight with or without the stream, that one fight wasn't why people were so angry at you. Five hours of streaming without mentioning you were streaming everything with only a 45 second delay and showing intel channels and including all of fleet coms is why people were and are angry.
During a system siege you will lose fights, you will win fights. Being outnumbered 2 to 1 you will lose more than you win, you just try to slow down their ability to complete plexes and put stress on their logistics by killing their fleet critical ships before you go down.
Dudes an imbecile,
I have no interest in the outcome of a single fight. In relation to this matter i have only one interest. Security. Unapologetic real time broadcasting of most aspects of our militia security is absolutely unforgivable imo and highlights a abject lack of intelligence.
BNANA have been informed that they can TWITCH their comms channel freely, but not other corps channels. Since BNANA has zero militia level FC's and a fairly small (but appreciated) participation in militia activities, their CEO and certain key members persistent arguments that their activities were not a net negative to our militia goals is absurd.
Its nice that they have sought permission for more recent broadcasting of gallente activities, though, im still not sure what the benefit of TWITCH is to us.
Most viewers were aligned against gellente and just laughed at one of our most dedicated FC's as he expressed disgust at the actions of an obscure gallente character in a minor gallente alliance trading our security against his own popularity. |
DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
297
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Posted - 2014.07.27 04:51:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Five hours of streaming without mentioning you were streaming everything with only a 45 second delay and showing intel channels and including all of fleet coms is why people were and are angry.
To be fair, we're talking about several months here, not hours, as Abannan has already mentioned. That was just that night. One of us has had stream up as part of almost every major gallente offensive this year, with the same stuff in it and delay. Not every minute of every day, but a few hours here and there. That night was the first time it had blown up like that, and it didn't blow up until after that fight.
To prove our point we had another stream up the following night, with 80+ people viewing again, only we did our own fleet fluctuating between 5-7 guys. I made sure to tag it on Twitter where I have several Caldari followers.
With all of the "blue intel" provided, a 3 week old character that was with us lost a pair of derp ships due to pilot error because he's still learning to fly, we took no other losses, capped several plexes in okkamon the the main fleet didn't touch, spent more TIME in action in Okkamon than the main fleet on account of not needing to reship constantly, and scored over 2 dozen kills. You guys drew a couple larger fights we were able to support, while the rest of our time was spent plugging gaps in plex coverage. I'd like to think we did our part that night while not exposing you guys to the dangers of streaming.
Now we can keep hashing this out all you like, but as I've mentioned, I believe we have this worked out moving forward, and the past can't be changed so... CSM9 Factional Warfare/Lowsec Representative Radio Host, Blogger, Lowsec Resident, PvP Afficionado. http://funkybacon.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/FunkyBacon |
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