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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:15:00 -
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UK politician wants in-game theft considered a real crime
http://www.kitguru.net/gaming/matthew-wilson/uk-politician-wants-in-game-thieves-to-be-prosecuted/
Would EvE get a special exemption?
Is this something that appeals to anyone here?
And if so, really?! "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
464
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:18:00 -
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Can't get that into EVE, as it's not real theft and the game works around the freedom to do so.
They'd have to close it if they had to remove this. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6445
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:22:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:Can't get that into EVE, as it's not real theft and the game works around the freedom to do so.
They'd have to close it if they had to remove this.
True.
Its the "in-game scammers" part that caught my attention
Of course, its come from a WoW-Playing Tory, so of course its a stupid idea "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:25:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:True.
Its the "in-game scammers" part that caught my attention
Of course, its come from a WoW-Playing Tory, so of course its a stupid idea That's easy enough to manage.
GÇ£Hello, this is the CCP GM team. We see here that you got another player in legal trouble over legitimate gameplay. You also claimed to own our data and assigned a real-life value to it. This means we now ban all of your accounts and payment methods for life for harassment and obvious intent to RMT.GÇ¥
The whiners would run out pretty quicklyGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Mithandra
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:26:00 -
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I can get behind prosecuting account hackers, but prosecuting people for in game scamming (as much as I hate the scamming) is just plain stupid. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19804
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:27:00 -
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He'd have a fit if he played Eve instead of WoW. Can you imagine the tear threads his unpaid lackeys would shitpost for him?
The facebook thread is full of butthurt carebears, with the occasional Eve player stirring it up
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:30:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:He'd have a fit if he played Eve instead of WoW. Can you imagine the tear threads his unpaid lackeys would shitpost for him?
He's been divorced twice, plays WoW and promised his electorate to wear an Iron Maiden tshirt into the Commons, then said he wasnt allowed to, so didn't.
He also likes cycling for charity.
I think EvE would be the death of him. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:31:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:He'd have a fit if he played Eve instead of WoW. Can you imagine the tear threads his unpaid lackeys would shitpost for him?
He's been divorced twice, plays WoW and promised his electorate to wear an Iron Maiden tshirt into the Commons, then said he wasnt allowed to, so didn't. He also likes cycling for charity. I think EvE would be the death of him. Is that an argument for or against him playing EVE? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19804
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:33:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:I think EvE would be the death of him. He's a politician, that's a good thing.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
465
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:34:00 -
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Hypocrits and weaklings.
Democrazy is slavery. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:37:00 -
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He probably managed to get himself scammed even in WoW.
Taking the loss of a super-dragon-sword or whatever to a RL country Justice Minister probably breaks the world record of videogame tears. EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2298
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:38:00 -
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Well, hijacking accounts that you paid for should be treated same way as hijacking cars for example. After all you paid for it and somebody accessed it without your knowledge/permission, what's the difference between WoW account and Eve account and bank account or email account? In all cases it's not a matter of "what's inside" but a matter of your paid exclusive access to particular resource is being violated by unauthorized 3rd party.
Games are big business now and a lot of money is floating around but somehow governments only notice it when they want to collect taxes but when it comes to enforcing law games are for children and you should pickup proper adult hobby and who cares about your Sword of Ten Thousand Truths you paid 10k euro for. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:41:00 -
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They'd have a real hard time getting around the fact that the EULA, expressly agreed to by every player, says that any and all in game assets are the sole property of CCP.
Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK. Talk about your first world problems. If people are genuinely so bored that they can agitate about videogame money, they need a war or something to get their heads out of their asses. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Grenadier Greyback
May Cause Irritation
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:45:00 -
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On behalf of all British people I would like to apologise for this colossal thunder-c*** https://i.imgur.com/xnZKiON.gif |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6449
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:47:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK.
Yeah, they are called the English (only j/k)
But seriously, I am behind people being taken away or fined or whatever for account hackery, but its the idea that in-game scamming should be illegal was what made me laugh like a drain.
Also get this;
In WoW; its illegal for a Rogue (aka a THIEF class in D&D) to steal money or scam, but racially motivated murder (ie PvP vs the Horde/Alliance) is completely legal. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
767
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:50:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:They'd have a real hard time getting around the fact that the EULA, expressly agreed to by every player, says that any and all in game assets are the sole property of CCP.
Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK. Talk about your first world problems. If people are genuinely so bored that they can agitate about videogame money, they need a war or something to get their heads out of their asses.
I expect he had someone ninja-loot an item, or possibly roll need for an alt on a purple.
The worrying thing is that his position in government is not just an MP, he is the Secretary of the all party group on Intellectual Property.
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Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:54:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK.
Yeah, they are called the English (only j/k) But seriously, I am behind people being taken away or fined or whatever for account hackery, but its the idea that in-game scamming should be illegal was what made me laugh like a drain. Also get this; In WoW; its illegal for a Rogue (aka a THIEF class in D&D) to steal money or scam, but racially motivated murder (ie PvP vs the Horde/Alliance) is completely legal. What I am reading...
We should form an EVE guild in Wow, creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day, to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.
I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6449
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:56:00 -
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Christina Project wrote: What I am reading...
We should form an EVE guild in Wow, creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day, to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.
I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD
What happened to the YOGZ? (Sorry that should be YOGS, yogz are a brand of yoghurts for children here)
Did they all trade in their mounts for Supers? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19805
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:58:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:What I am reading...
We should form an EVE guild in Wow, creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day, to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.
I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD Goon Squad
p/j4g though
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:01:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:I think EvE would be the death of him. Is that an argument for or against him playing EVE? I believe that can only be de decided after he did it... Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
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Ryuu Towryk
Reiuji Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:03:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:24:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Would EvE get a special exemption?
Yes - because theft in EVE is part of the game. In fact, grief and theft are well-documented parts of the game in my opinion.
If you are taking stuff from other players by breaking rules, hacking the game, or taking someone's account is not the same thing as playing a legitimate game mechanic.
If I made a game called "Master of Theives MMO", where the main aim was to steal stuff from people, it would be unreasonable to take legal action against another player who stole from me. Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |
Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:26:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:They'd have a real hard time getting around the fact that the EULA, expressly agreed to by every player, says that any and all in game assets are the sole property of CCP.
Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK. Talk about your first world problems. If people are genuinely so bored that they can agitate about videogame money, they need a war or something to get their heads out of their asses. Moscow by 2016 XD |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
468
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:35:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Christina Project wrote:What I am reading...
We should form an EVE guild in Wow, creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day, to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.
I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD Goon Squadp/j4g though So... what? What does that have to do with what I said? http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:36:00 -
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I'm willing to bet he ran a PUG in some scrub dungeon without using master loot and got his epic leather belt ninja'd by a 12 year old who bought his character on eBay. My lord. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:37:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Christina Project wrote:What I am reading...
We should form an EVE guild in Wow, creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day, to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.
I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD Goon Squadp/j4g though So... what? What does that have to do with what I said?
That's the guild you are talking about. It already exists
"Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Marsha Mallow
1348
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:01:00 -
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Handily his website has a contact email. I was just about to send a buddy code invite, then noticed he's a chartered accountant. Best not, he might accept the code and start playing, then stay for the spreadsheets. Don't think I could cope with another guffaw inducing moral crusade blogger, he'd probably get onto the CSM too. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
469
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:04:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Christina Project wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Christina Project wrote:What I am reading...
We should form an EVE guild in Wow, creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day, to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.
I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD Goon Squadp/j4g though So... what? What does that have to do with what I said? That's the guild you are talking about. It already exists No it's not, because obviously I wasn't talking about an already existing one.
Maybe all people in EVE should just group up in one single corp too?
You make no sense. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6455
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:05:00 -
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Christina Project wrote:
No it's not, because obviously I wasn't talking about an already existing one.
Maybe all people in EVE should just group up in one single corp too?
You make no sense.
Shut your cakehole you daft tranny "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Christina Project
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
469
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:08:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Christina Project wrote:
No it's not, because obviously I wasn't talking about an already existing one.
Maybe all people in EVE should just group up in one single corp too?
You make no sense.
Shut your cakehole you daft tranny Wow. That's weak minded. Else you will do what exactly?
Did I even talk to you? Nope.
Maybe drop the bottle for a bit, hm? (: http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com --áSniping groups of small NPCs and gankers effectively. |
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