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Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:29:00 -
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Starting 7 days ago, the siege of Okkamon begins. We've waited long enough for good fights from the Caldari farmlitia, and since the gud fites have not been forthcoming...we will be coming to them.
The goal is system control. Many ships will be lost. Much fun will be had.
We come to give you freedom fries.
Vive la Federation! QCATS is recruiting:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896299 |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:30:00 -
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Okkamon has fallen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmMNpbFjp0 QCATS is recruiting:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896299 |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:00:00 -
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Doing it RIGHT! |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:07:00 -
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good for you ! |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:29:00 -
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That AU tz ...
Also GF |
Claudia Vivienne
GUERRILLA WARFARE EVE Templis CALSF
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:40:00 -
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If there's anything I've learned from this experience, it's don't stream your fleets involving Perunga. Also I'm sure he's a happy man now. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:45:00 -
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Claudia Vivienne wrote:If there's anything I've learned from this experience, it's don't stream your fleets involving Perunga. Also I'm sure he's a happy man now. Did he win the bet? |
Claudia Vivienne
GUERRILLA WARFARE EVE Templis CALSF
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:48:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Claudia Vivienne wrote:If there's anything I've learned from this experience, it's don't stream your fleets involving Perunga. Also I'm sure he's a happy man now. Did he win the bet? Probably. |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:06:00 -
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To everyone involved, this was fun, thank you. Special shout out to JUSTK and CQB for throwing down with us, and to all the logistical dudes out there who helped make this a reality. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:21:00 -
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Battle report from 16-25 July 2014 for Okkamon:
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45330,45330,45330,45330,45330,45330,45330,45330,45330,45330&b=6068160,6069600,6071040,6072480,6073920,6075360,6076800,6078240,6079680,6081120&e=1439&t=LvqqcyIkkfaaqqaaaaaacc
Summary:
- About 1400 pilots lost 61 Billion, with 3300 ships and 350 pods destroyed. This doesn't include losses in nearby Reitsato and Rakapas. - Gallente lost about 50% of the 1400 ships they fielded, totaling 18 Billion in ships and pods. - Caldari / Amarr lost about 75% of the 1800 ships they fielded, totaling 25 Billion in ships and pods. - Random neutrals lost about 15% of the 225 ships they fielded, totaling about 9.5 Billion in ships and pods.
This was one of the harder invasions we've managed to pull off. In addition to being a 2 jump reship, we fielded about 250 pilots to the 450 that participated on the Caldari side, plus 150+ neutrals playing their usual games. Props to the Caldari for coming out to defend Okkamon. |
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 14:53:00 -
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How long till someone sets up an asakai/okkamon gate camp and/or cloaky bumpers and gankers on station, to destroy the caldari assets that are being moved out? BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:02:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:How long till someone sets up an asakai/okkamon gate camp and/or cloaky bumpers and gankers on station, to destroy the caldari assets that are being moved out? CODE., where are you when we need you most??? |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:13:00 -
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Why must all the good fun happen when I have deadlines coming up :( |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:45:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:How long till someone sets up an asakai/okkamon gate camp and/or cloaky bumpers and gankers on station, to destroy the caldari assets that are being moved out?
You would be surprised, I think, given the logistical coherence on your side, how many Caldari assets are not there. The last couple of days actually involved a whip-round to buy and move in the ships needed for that day. Rather astoundingly, many Caldari corps do not keep several thousand plexing frigates in their home systems to hand out free to people who join the defence. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:50:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:That AU tz ... Also GF
Caldaris had a good autz in laneys corp and smooks but you guys chose not to help them with enaluri and then u lost them
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:52:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:many Caldari corps do not keep several thousand plexing frigates in their home systems to hand out free to people who join the defence.
This may be why u keep losing systems then,
dem reships lol
Atleast it wasnt a seasonal excuse tho i was expecting cos summer GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:53:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:...to hand out free to people who join the defence.
You have to at least make people pay for their own ships. Even in derps, 2mil for each ship adds up fast. |
Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:54:00 -
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Yeah, only thing Caldari have left is some angry 8-14 day Russian chars complaining in militia that we don't keep T2 up for them to pad their wallets. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:04:00 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Yeah, only thing Caldari have left is some angry 8-14 day Russian chars complaining in militia that we don't keep T2 up for them to pad their wallets. Don't worry, we'll get Alamel under control again soon. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:07:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Epikurus wrote:many Caldari corps do not keep several thousand plexing frigates in their home systems to hand out free to people who join the defence. This may be why u keep losing systems then,
The lack of proper action on the supply side is not insignificant and corps on our side really need to make solving it a priority.
Despite that, this one was really lost in the AU tz. It's incredibly dispiriting for the pilots who are on in EU and US primetime to hold their ground and even push the contested level back over 16 hours and then find that the opposition are plexing practically unopposed with less than 20 guys for 6-8 hours each day and grabbing an extra 15-25% system control. This has been a clear issue with the last few system defence battles but trying to find a solution for it is very hard.
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Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:09:00 -
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Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:Epikurus wrote:...to hand out free to people who join the defence. You have to at least make people pay for their own ships. Even in derps, 2mil for each ship adds up fast. If you don't want to get reimbursed for your fitting and shopping efforts, then use the extra money to pay for more JF runs to come into system. You can't put the burden of expense on the experienced pilots, everybody can earn money in FW.
It's not the isk that's the issue - 4 billion is a pittance and will get you several thousand plexing frigs - but the speed of reshipping. Handing them out for free is the fastest way to do it. |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:12:00 -
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Honestly, if most of the Caldari that resided in Okkamon had been interested in solo and micro gang work instead of monster blobs and gatecamping lowsec gates (though not very well) we wouldn't have taken their home system (or even wanted to). But I told you all that a few weeks ago, so whatever.
Thanks for the fights and the system.
BLFOX is currently recruiting |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:15:00 -
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Epikurus wrote:Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:Epikurus wrote:...to hand out free to people who join the defence. You have to at least make people pay for their own ships. Even in derps, 2mil for each ship adds up fast. If you don't want to get reimbursed for your fitting and shopping efforts, then use the extra money to pay for more JF runs to come into system. You can't put the burden of expense on the experienced pilots, everybody can earn money in FW. It's not the isk that's the issue - 4 billion is a pittance and will get you several thousand plexing frigs - but the speed of reshipping. Handing them out for free is the fastest way to do it. We rarely hand out things for free. And we seem to reship just fine. Although we do use the "you break it you buy it" policy but that tends to be for ships we have limited numbers of, such as logi. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:16:00 -
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SmokinJs Arthie wrote:Epikurus wrote:Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:Epikurus wrote:...to hand out free to people who join the defence. You have to at least make people pay for their own ships. Even in derps, 2mil for each ship adds up fast. If you don't want to get reimbursed for your fitting and shopping efforts, then use the extra money to pay for more JF runs to come into system. You can't put the burden of expense on the experienced pilots, everybody can earn money in FW. It's not the isk that's the issue - 4 billion is a pittance and will get you several thousand plexing frigs - but the speed of reshipping. Handing them out for free is the fastest way to do it. We rarely hand out things for free. And we seem to reship just fine. Although we do use the "you break it you buy it" policy but that tends to be for ships we have limited numbers of, such as logi.
I suppose the question of whether they should be free is a matter of taste. They should certainly be there whether they are charged for or not. |
Commander Razama
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:22:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Honestly, if most of the Caldari that resided in Okkamon had been interested in solo and micro gang work instead of monster blobs and gatecamping lowsec gates (though not very well) we wouldn't have taken their home system (or even wanted to). But I told you all that a few weeks ago, so whatever.
Thanks for the fights and the system.
Don't you mean high sec gates? I jump into system and half the time they are camping their own high sec. gates trying to catch nuets instead of pvping with us >.> |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
252
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:23:00 -
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confirming we are too greedy to hand ships out for free (unless you make it to the top 10 of our killboard in alliance, someone is going to get a nice Orthrus this month). BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:25:00 -
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Commander Razama wrote:Thanatos Marathon wrote:Honestly, if most of the Caldari that resided in Okkamon had been interested in solo and micro gang work instead of monster blobs and gatecamping lowsec gates (though not very well) we wouldn't have taken their home system (or even wanted to). But I told you all that a few weeks ago, so whatever.
Thanks for the fights and the system.
Don't you mean high sec gates? I jump into system and half the time they are camping their own high sec. gates trying to catch nuets instead of pvping with us >.>
Nah, they can camp highsec gates all day. I welcome highsec gate camps because it forces people to actually move into low and sort out decent logistics (or join a corp that has). BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:19:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Commander Razama wrote:Thanatos Marathon wrote:Honestly, if most of the Caldari that resided in Okkamon had been interested in solo and micro gang work instead of monster blobs and gatecamping lowsec gates (though not very well) we wouldn't have taken their home system (or even wanted to). But I told you all that a few weeks ago, so whatever.
Thanks for the fights and the system.
Don't you mean high sec gates? I jump into system and half the time they are camping their own high sec. gates trying to catch nuets instead of pvping with us >.> Nah, they can camp highsec gates all day. I welcome highsec gate camps because it forces people to actually move into low and sort out decent logistics (or join a corp that has). Calmil has to deal with Jita dwellers - people that never move their hangars from Jita and then go there to reship whenever they lose a ship on a roam or a defense effort.
And people constantly asking if Tama is camped. Sometimes I wonder if it's just troll bait.
All this system capture crusade is going to end with a Burn Jita except it won't be because of Goons. |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:39:00 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:All this system capture crusade is going to end with a Burn Jita except it won't be because of Goons. Wait for the Jita Raids. The Caldari State must learn that they are not safe everywhere and that the Gallente reach is far. The raid might only be a pinprick. But, it will be a prick directly in the heart of the dragon. Cockbags to Jita....soon(tm). |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.07.25 20:53:00 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:All this system capture crusade is going to end with a Burn Jita except it won't be because of Goons. I think they have been reading our internal forums again. Already prototyping high sec camping fleets. We are giving you until the end of this month to evacuate high sec Black Rise.
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