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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:33:00 -
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Bleedingthrough wrote:True. Would be very nice if ignored signatures would be remembered/flagged as ignored. But I don't think my Helios has enough CPU to handle storing all that data after I fit the expanded launcher.... www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
528
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:38:00 -
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Just use the mass sig reader on any decent mapping tool. If you have everything scanned before DT, and the sigs before and after are the same, ignore everything. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Jeremy Kamira
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:27:00 -
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If anything i would see this as a bug to be fixed, not a new idea to put in place. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
3552
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:58:00 -
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I miss fully random sigs. kids these days.... just want everything on a silver platter... Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
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Posted - 2014.07.30 04:22:00 -
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Leave it as is. Include some kind of new music when a wormhole has active players in it, so you know instantly upon entering system that there's someone to shoot.
i suggest; Benny hill = PI alts active Jaws = Tengu found ratting Blurred Lines = Nestor aFKing at POS J's before K's. Sudden Buggery is recruiting w-nerds and w-noobs. Mail your resume in today! http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Winthorp
2432
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Posted - 2014.07.30 05:31:00 -
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Ab'del Abu wrote:Winthorp wrote:Ab'del Abu wrote: I figure the current mechanics might suck for alliances, but alliance bookmarks should take care of that soonTM.
Your response makes no sense at all, what will Alliance BM's have to do with any of this? If - for whatever reason - bookmarks cannot be shared directly, signature IDs can be used to convey information about wormholes etc. As it stands this doesn't work when there is a downtime inbetween. Yes it's a minor issue ... Winthorp wrote:Ab'del Abu wrote:I like how it is. We don't write down signatures anymore while scanning our chain because that information turned out to be largely irrelevant to us, we only do so for our home hole now. After DT we simply watch out for signatures that don't match the prevalent pattern, that's actually quite handy. Changing the mechanics would def. mess with our way of doing things ...
The fact that you state you don't record signatures in your chain and your laziness as your reason to avoid change makes little sense as to why it shouldn't change, you should be aware CCP never listens to the reason "this is the way it has always been you can't change it on us" as a valid argument. Everyone is going on about how they absolutely need to rescan all the things, but noone says why it's so vital. Noone has given a single ~good~ reason that justifies CCP putting their resources into making this change. Imho the benefits of the current system def. outweighs the disadvantages. E.g., if this should actually change, everyone will need to use tools like tripwire or eveeye for parsing scan results in order to be able to notice new signatures. Or do you expect anyone to just manually write down those 200+ signatures in a larger chain? I hope CCP forces neither on us As someone else already pointed out, such a change would probably mean more work for a majority of wormholers - including pilots from AU and EU timezones too.
I find it hard to believe that there are people still in WH space that don't use mapping tools, and if they don't they are special kind of crazy person that i just can't spend my time explaining the benefits to.
Usually the people that want to see this idea stay the same are US TZ people that like that they can instantly see a new signature pop up to find the active WH chain they should be scouting, i was assuming this was you untill i realized you are that special kind of person that has never used a mapping tool to understands its merits when it comes to mass sig reading and recording.
As an AU player CCP investing in this VERY SMALL CHANGE would make it more likely that newer players that are from AU or early EU are more likely to stay in WH space instead of getting an arduous chore after every DT to do before they can play the game again, i am bitter and whiney yes but your reasons for CCP not doing this go only towards it will make it less likely for you to see a new WH... How lazy is that?
Maybe you should ask every large WH corp/alliance how hard it is to get AU players new and old and then retain them to WH space where they have to scan before DT before they can play the game and then in their prime time the game goes offline for 15-30mins and then when they log back in they have to at the bare minimum rescan the home Wh... Ask them why they just end up going back to null. (Only the committed and crazy WH Aussies stay in the end) |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
459
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:12:00 -
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Bleedingthrough wrote:[quote=Ab'del Abu]True. Would be very nice if ignored signatures would be remembered/flagged as ignored. I think this would really be a great change as well, and would quiet any US TZ concerns about your suggested change. Mapping tools are great for large corps/alliances that need to share their chains with a lot of people, but it is a bit overkill for small groups or solo roamers. Having ignored sigs flagged would give nearly the same functionality within the game, as far as identifying new signatures. In-game solutions are always better than a third party tool IMO, no matter how nifty it is. And it's not outside the realm of reason; why shouldn't your ship be able to remember signatures it scanned just because it left the system?
I'm not saying that this would replace mappers. They obviously are invaluable in sharing sig data with large groups. But wouldn't it be NICE. www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
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Sith1s Spectre
Hard Knocks Inc.
1121
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:22:00 -
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Winthorp wrote: (Only the committed and crazy WH Aussies stay in the end)
Resident crazy AU bro checking in
P.S Miss you Winnie the Thorp. I still owe you a beer @ EDU AU tz best tz
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
531
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Posted - 2014.07.30 13:13:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:Winthorp wrote: (Only the committed and crazy WH Aussies stay in the end) Resident crazy AU bro checking in P.S Miss you Winnie the Thorp. I still owe you a beer @ EDU
One day Winny will stay in one place. Damn free spirits... If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
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Posted - 2014.07.31 00:50:00 -
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Goodbye Winthorp Though I never knew you at all You had the grace to hold yourself While those around you crawled They crawled out of the wormholes And they whispered into your d-scan They set you on the treadmill And they made you d-scan after downtime
And it seems to me you lived your life Like a candle in the wind Never knowing who to cling to When dowwntime set in And I would have liked to have known you But I was just a forum troll Your candle burned out long before Your legend ever did
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Lenroc Elisav
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
20
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Posted - 2014.07.31 07:31:00 -
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Are u mad? What are you trying to do? Do you want to destroy w-space by removing its harshness? KIDDING
+1 sounds like a good idea.
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Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.07.31 11:06:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Goodbye Winthorp
Are you going somewhere?
But seriously your poetry brings a tear to my third eye.
EDIT: Also it's now DT and i am off to "converse" with the wife and then come back after DT for my scanning chores. |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
540
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Posted - 2014.07.31 13:26:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:Goodbye Winthorp Are you going somewhere? But seriously your poetry brings a tear to my third eye. EDIT: Also it's now DT and i am off to "converse" with the wife and then come back after DT for my scanning chores.
Just join a big corp. Then you can get some random to do all the work for you. Allocation of resources and all that... If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
10831
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:05:00 -
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We've looked into this a few times, and it's not trivial to change. Involves a pretty fundamental part of the process that the server uses to create dynamic locations in space.
I know this is just about the most frustrating possible answer, but all I can say for now is that yes we'd ideally like these IDs to persist over downtime but I don't know when we might get it done. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:11:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:We've looked into this a few times, and it's not trivial to change. Involves a pretty fundamental part of the process that the server uses to create dynamic locations in space.
I know this is just about the most frustrating possible answer, but all I can say for now is that yes we'd ideally like these IDs to persist over downtime but I don't know when we might get it done.
Well thanks for replying though. |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
542
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:29:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:We've looked into this a few times, and it's not trivial to change. Involves a pretty fundamental part of the process that the server uses to create dynamic locations in space.
I know this is just about the most frustrating possible answer, but all I can say for now is that yes we'd ideally like these IDs to persist over downtime but I don't know when we might get it done. Well thanks for replying though.
#rekt
Get a scan slave If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Winthorp
2451
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:31:00 -
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Andrew Jester wrote: #rekt
Get a scan slave
Not #rekt at all, i at no time though CCP would jump in and fix this just because i asked... LOL
I'm just happy they read it and see people still hate the **** failed mechanic and now we know they don't like it either. OP SUCCESS.
Also if your going to go to null Jester, could you have not had some class in your choice of group... |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
542
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Posted - 2014.08.01 14:23:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Andrew Jester wrote: #rekt
Get a scan slave
Not #rekt at all, i at no time though CCP would jump in and fix this just because i asked... LOL I'm just happy they read it and see people still hate the **** failed mechanic and now we know they don't like it either. OP SUCCESS. Also if your going to go to null Jester, could you have not had some class in your choice of group...
At least this dev didn't get all butthurt. You just need to build your CCP clout then you can be a true mover and shaker.
It's not null, it's ~*lowsec*~ If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Winthorp
2452
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Posted - 2014.08.01 14:31:00 -
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Andrew Jester wrote: It's not null, it's ~*lowsec*~
Even worse. |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
542
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Posted - 2014.08.01 14:35:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Andrew Jester wrote: It's not null, it's ~*lowsec*~
Even worse.
Lowsec is claimed to be the last Bastion of true PvP. I read that somewhere so it must be true. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1645
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Posted - 2014.08.01 14:59:00 -
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+1 |
Alundil
Isogen 5
616
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Posted - 2014.08.01 19:00:00 -
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Thanks for the feedback Fozzie
I'm right behind you |
HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
477
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Posted - 2014.08.01 21:24:00 -
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CALLED IT! Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
11046
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Posted - 2014.08.13 15:04:00 -
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CCP Masterplan is the spacewizard that Peter Dinklage likes to talk about.
True story. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Winthorp
2557
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Posted - 2014.08.15 13:57:00 -
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Confirmed getting fixed https://twitter.com/CCP_Masterplan/status/500243332048883713
Cheers CCP Fozzie and CCP Masterplan, thanks for listening. |
Winthorp
2557
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Posted - 2014.08.15 13:59:00 -
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HerrBert wrote:CALLED IT!
So... Hows that working out for you now.... |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
174
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:11:00 -
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So much win in this thread!
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
523
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:00:00 -
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Very nice. So now that sig IDs don't change randomly it should be easy to make your ship remember ignored sigs..right? www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
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Bronya Boga
Isogen 5
437
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Posted - 2014.08.15 18:03:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:HerrBert wrote:CALLED IT! So... Hows that working out for you now....
I love you bert but this is so delicious I might need to just take small bites so I dont ruin this moment. Mmmmmmmm Host of Down The Pipe-áIngame Channel DTP Podcast www.downthepipe-wh.com GÇïIsogen 5 is recruiting. Check us out
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HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
490
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Posted - 2014.08.15 18:38:00 -
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HerrBert wrote:Verdict: Given that the scanning Mechanics are a VERY integrated mechanic and almost interact in every aspect of the game, I would assume this is under the surface a rather HUGE request, although it would mean "a huge" quality of life improvement for the people playing around the DT.
This one isnt easy.
reading is hard yo Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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