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Capt Acid
9th Flotilla
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Posted - 2014.07.27 15:58:00 -
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So the TLDR question: Can I fly a Raven Navy Issue without a target painter if I fit her with two or three Rigor Catalysts? Also would my Hornet IIGÇÖs be able to deal with any web/scram frigs or would I be at their mercy?
I am kicking around the idea of flying a Raven Navy Issue as I am a missile flinger and shield tanker it seems to be logical to pick her over the Scorpion Navy Issue. Now I dislike having to use target painters due to the abominable cycle time and range issues so that got me to drooling over the RNIGÇÖs 5% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius, that adds up to a 25% bonus as I have Caldari Battleship 5. So here is my question if I shove x3 Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I or X2 Rigor IIs and a Flair would the RNI be able to apply DMG to Cruisers well enough to one or two shot them without target painters or is it lunacy to fly a RNI without a TP? Also if a TP is mandatory is one enough or do I need two?
Thanks and fly safe.
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Rankan
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.07.27 16:22:00 -
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I used a normal Raven with 3 Rigors and T2 Drones and never lost it. Train up Guided Missile Precision and Target Navigation Prediction and get the implants for them. |
Nosub Boomer
Sweaty Plums
14
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Posted - 2014.07.27 17:08:00 -
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In an update quite a while back TP's had their cycle time reduced from 10 seconds to five seconds which cuts out most of the annoyance, Plus the RNI has more than enough mids to use two TP's without gimping the tank.
The RNI's inherent application hull bonus's & Rigors will ensure good application but the use of TP's will ensure great application with a good chance of one-shotting most cruisers..
Two Rigors & one flare plus TP works great for me.
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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
274
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Posted - 2014.07.27 17:20:00 -
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When I still did missions I used to have a CNR with 2 Rigor II and 1 Flare II and still used a TP for most missions because it made a difference and helped me kill stuff faster. (For a few missions I preferred to fit ECCM instead.)
And if you bring T2 light drones you shouldn't have to worry about frigates scramming you.
Here's the fit I used then (hardeners and ammo were changed accoring to the enemy faction, of course): You might notice, that there is no prop mod. With the exception of very few missions that can easily be avoided, most missions do not require you to move much. I used to warp in, set the ship to orbit the warp in beacon and then killed the rats.
High power 8x Cruise Missile Launcher II
Medium power 1x Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster 1x Heavy Capacitor Booster II 2x Dread Guristas EM Ward Field 1x Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field 1x Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier 1x Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Low power 1x Damage Control II 4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Rig Slot 1x Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II 2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Charges 600x Mjolnir Precision Cruise Missile 18x Navy Cap Booster 800 3.260x Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Drones 15x Hobgoblin II 5x Hornet EC-300
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Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Suddenly Frigates Reconstructed Criticism
130
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Posted - 2014.07.27 18:07:00 -
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im going with the pve idea here
this is what i used to great effect 1 to 2 salvos on elite frigates with precision 1salvo non elite cruiser and bc 2 to 3 salvos on elite cruisers 3 salvos on bs on average cycle time i never had problems PS as i used it it was with a full 5% missile implant set
[Raven Navy Issue, Unnamed loadout] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Signal Amplifier II
Large Micro Jump Drive Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Domination EM Ward Amplifier Domination Thermic Dissipation Amplifier X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1043
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Posted - 2014.07.27 19:16:00 -
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Capt Acid wrote:So the TLDR question: Can I fly a Raven Navy Issue without a target painter if I fit her with two or three Rigor Catalysts? Also would my Hornet IIGÇÖs be able to deal with any web/scram frigs or would I be at their mercy?
I am kicking around the idea of flying a Raven Navy Issue as I am a missile flinger and shield tanker it seems to be logical to pick her over the Scorpion Navy Issue. Now I dislike having to use target painters due to the abominable cycle time and range issues so that got me to drooling over the RNIGÇÖs 5% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius, that adds up to a 25% bonus as I have Caldari Battleship 5. So here is my question if I shove x3 Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I or X2 Rigor IIs and a Flair would the RNI be able to apply DMG to Cruisers well enough to one or two shot them without target painters or is it lunacy to fly a RNI without a TP? Also if a TP is mandatory is one enough or do I need two?
Thanks and fly safe.
You can fly a Raven Navy Issue without a target painter. If you have decent drone skills it's not suicide either. Would I recommend it.. No!
Many things have changed. Target painters have a 5 second cycle time... Micro Jump Drive kicks you out 100 km even if you're being scrammed by an NPC.. You'll be able to kill the frigates before they even get close.
There are many ways to skin the cat. Here's one.
[Raven Navy Issue, Missions] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II
Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Large Micro Jump Drive
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Large Ionic Field Projector I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Hobgoblin II x5 Warden II x3
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Claud Tiberius
58
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Posted - 2014.07.28 04:29:00 -
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You don't need a TP in pve. Your skills (if high) should be enough.
In pvp, a TP is always a good idea for the med-long range missile boats. Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end. |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
533
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Posted - 2014.07.28 04:38:00 -
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For PVE. These days I fit 1 tp. The only reason I fit it is because I need it to get agro for my auto targeting missiles. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
563
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Posted - 2014.07.28 04:43:00 -
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Caleidascope wrote:For PVE. These days I fit 1 tp. The only reason I fit it is because I need it to get agro for my auto targeting missiles.
the real reason to fly a cnr and fit a target painter. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12528
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Posted - 2014.07.28 04:47:00 -
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Ravens have been doing missions without target painters for a decade. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
186
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Posted - 2014.07.28 06:45:00 -
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dude its a 10min skill for the meta4 is is just as good as the T2.
why would overtank that piece of **** in the first place
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Claud Tiberius
58
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Posted - 2014.07.28 06:51:00 -
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Caleidascope wrote:For PVE. These days I fit 1 tp. The only reason I fit it is because I need it to get agro for my auto targeting missiles. Then go afk?
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1051
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ravens have been doing missions without target painters for a decade. Yes I've done missions in a Raven without either target painters or rigor rigs. It will complete the mission but it's not ideal. You'll get more damage on smaller targets with target painters. More damage means the mission is complete faster. The semi AFK type of player might prefer more tank. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1051
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:42:00 -
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Luwc wrote:dude its a 10min skill for the meta4 is is just as good as the T2. why would overtank that piece of **** in the first place This is true but if you get target painting to 4 you can train the secondary skill that helps. I'm not at my computer so I can't verify the exact training time but I think it's only a few days to get both to 4. Definitely not wasted training for a missile pilot. Also required for a mission Golem. I've seen pilots flying a Golem without target painters.... |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1051
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:45:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Caleidascope wrote:For PVE. These days I fit 1 tp. The only reason I fit it is because I need it to get agro for my auto targeting missiles. the real reason to fly a cnr and fit a target painter. Do they still work for AFK mission running? I thought they did something to nerf the missiles? |
Nadine Jones
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.07.28 14:28:00 -
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Just use a ship with guns, fit it with a micro jump drive and laugh manically as you blap the frigs from 100km. I know I did. Never touched missiles ever again. |
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Suddenly Frigates Reconstructed Criticism
131
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Posted - 2014.07.28 18:32:00 -
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Nadine Jones wrote:Just use a ship with guns, fit it with a micro jump drive and laugh manically as you blap the frigs from 100km. I know I did. Never touched missiles ever again.
i prefer missiles for missions tbh, thats the difference in playstyle |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
534
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:32:00 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:Caleidascope wrote:For PVE. These days I fit 1 tp. The only reason I fit it is because I need it to get agro for my auto targeting missiles. Then go afk? Unfortunately no, but it does free up time for homework. Gÿ¦7 Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
534
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:36:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Caleidascope wrote:For PVE. These days I fit 1 tp. The only reason I fit it is because I need it to get agro for my auto targeting missiles. the real reason to fly a cnr and fit a target painter. Do they still work for AFK mission running? I thought they did something to nerf the missiles? My opinion is that this tactic does not work for AFK. Often enough you would have some frigs or some battleships that keep dancing in and out, this means that auto targeting missiles (which always go for the closest target) keep switching targets, which results in neither target being killed. So I don't recommend this tactic for AFK. And carry some regular missiles when you want to concentrate your fire. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
NIFTYGetAtMe
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:50:00 -
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It's not suicide to PvE without a TP if you have Cruise Launchers and 3 Rigors, it's just not smart. Always have a TP when using missiles. However, if you're worried about losing a Raven Navy Issue to PvE, then you should probably get the Scorpion Navy Issue as it can tank much better. |
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Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
48
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Posted - 2014.07.29 19:59:00 -
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If you have non-abyssmal skills your raven should be just fine, unless you attack someones enyo, then the TP would have been a nice addition but your probably dead anyways at that point. Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1054
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:37:00 -
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NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:It's not suicide to PvE without a TP if you have Cruise Launchers and 3 Rigors, it's just not smart. Always have a TP when using missiles. However, if you're worried about losing a Raven Navy Issue to PvE, then you should probably get the Scorpion Navy Issue as it can tank much better.
Something like this for the Raven: 8x Cruise Launcher II
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp Republic Fleet TP 2x Brokara's Cap Recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Gravimetric Backup II
2x Rigor II CCC
or something like this for the SNI: 6x Cruise Launcher II Salvager/Tractor Beam
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp 2x Domination TP MJD Brokara's Cap recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Cormack's Power Diagnostic System
CCC II CCC Rigor II
Both work extremely well.
And both will get ganked very quickly.
So much faction and officer mods aren't needed. The only deadspace mod you "need" is a shield booster. You can keep that under 200 million. CN BCS are nice if you're in a quiet system.
I've ran missions with my CNR with all T2 mods except the large shield booster that cost less than 100 million. I've never had to warp out of a mission.
Not saying those fits are bad by any means. They're just loot pi+¦atas |
NIFTYGetAtMe
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:40:00 -
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IIshira wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:It's not suicide to PvE without a TP if you have Cruise Launchers and 3 Rigors, it's just not smart. Always have a TP when using missiles. However, if you're worried about losing a Raven Navy Issue to PvE, then you should probably get the Scorpion Navy Issue as it can tank much better.
Something like this for the Raven: 8x Cruise Launcher II
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp Republic Fleet TP 2x Brokara's Cap Recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Gravimetric Backup II
2x Rigor II CCC
or something like this for the SNI: 6x Cruise Launcher II Salvager/Tractor Beam
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp 2x Domination TP MJD Brokara's Cap recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Cormack's Power Diagnostic System
CCC II CCC Rigor II
Both work extremely well. And both will get ganked very quickly. So much faction and officer mods aren't needed. The only deadspace mod you "need" is a shield booster. You can keep that under 200 million. CN BCS are nice if you're in a quiet system. I've ran missions with my CNR and it has all T2 mods except the large shield booster that cost less than 100 million. I've never had to warp out of a mission. Stop exaggerating gank rates. I flew both those fits for a solid year each and never saw anyone even try me. My current Golem was only ever even scanned down ONCE by a "friendly" FW spy who tried to drop a Minmatar Mil Typhoon on me. my point is ganks are 100% avoidable. And who freaking cares about cost anyways? Do you play the game to amass ISK and just let it collect dust in your wallet? Who on Earth plays that way? |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1054
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:28:00 -
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NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:IIshira wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:It's not suicide to PvE without a TP if you have Cruise Launchers and 3 Rigors, it's just not smart. Always have a TP when using missiles. However, if you're worried about losing a Raven Navy Issue to PvE, then you should probably get the Scorpion Navy Issue as it can tank much better.
Something like this for the Raven: 8x Cruise Launcher II
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp Republic Fleet TP 2x Brokara's Cap Recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Gravimetric Backup II
2x Rigor II CCC
or something like this for the SNI: 6x Cruise Launcher II Salvager/Tractor Beam
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp 2x Domination TP MJD Brokara's Cap recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Cormack's Power Diagnostic System
CCC II CCC Rigor II
Both work extremely well. And both will get ganked very quickly. So much faction and officer mods aren't needed. The only deadspace mod you "need" is a shield booster. You can keep that under 200 million. CN BCS are nice if you're in a quiet system. I've ran missions with my CNR and it has all T2 mods except the large shield booster that cost less than 100 million. I've never had to warp out of a mission. Stop exaggerating gank rates. I flew both those fits for a solid year each and never saw anyone even try me. My current Golem was only ever even scanned down ONCE by a "friendly" FW spy who tried to drop a Minmatar Mil Typhoon on me. my point is ganks are 100% avoidable. And who freaking cares about cost anyways? Do you play the game to amass ISK and just let it collect dust in your wallet? Who on Earth plays that way?
Yes you may have a quiet system where no one noticed your fitting. If you want to see what gets ganked just look at the killboards for the system you fly in. I will tell you I've seen far less shiny fits ganked in mission hubs.
The biggest thing is other than the CN BCS none of the bling is needed. Other than the booster itself T2 tank is more than enough for a level 4 mission.
I don't play to amass ISK. If you saw my wallet you would see that. If flying a shiny ship makes you happy by all means don't stop. Play the game to have fun! |
Shobon Blueshooter
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.30 02:02:00 -
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IIshira wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:IIshira wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:It's not suicide to PvE without a TP if you have Cruise Launchers and 3 Rigors, it's just not smart. Always have a TP when using missiles. However, if you're worried about losing a Raven Navy Issue to PvE, then you should probably get the Scorpion Navy Issue as it can tank much better.
Something like this for the Raven: 8x Cruise Launcher II
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp Republic Fleet TP 2x Brokara's Cap Recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Gravimetric Backup II
2x Rigor II CCC
or something like this for the SNI: 6x Cruise Launcher II Salvager/Tractor Beam
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp 2x Domination TP MJD Brokara's Cap recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Cormack's Power Diagnostic System
CCC II CCC Rigor II
Both work extremely well. And both will get ganked very quickly. So much faction and officer mods aren't needed. The only deadspace mod you "need" is a shield booster. You can keep that under 200 million. CN BCS are nice if you're in a quiet system. I've ran missions with my CNR and it has all T2 mods except the large shield booster that cost less than 100 million. I've never had to warp out of a mission. Stop exaggerating gank rates. I flew both those fits for a solid year each and never saw anyone even try me. My current Golem was only ever even scanned down ONCE by a "friendly" FW spy who tried to drop a Minmatar Mil Typhoon on me. my point is ganks are 100% avoidable. And who freaking cares about cost anyways? Do you play the game to amass ISK and just let it collect dust in your wallet? Who on Earth plays that way? Yes you may have a quiet system where no one noticed your fitting. If you want to see what gets ganked just look at the killboards for the system you fly in. I will tell you I've seen far less shiny fits ganked in mission hubs. The biggest thing is other than the CN BCS none of the bling is needed. Other than the booster itself T2 tank is more than enough for a level 4 mission. I don't play to amass ISK. If you saw my wallet you would see that. If flying a shiny ship makes you happy by all means don't stop. Play the game to have fun!
Don't follow his advice. Fit your ship just enough to do the missions quickly and nothing else. Use the isk you save to buy disposable ships for PvP in LowSec or somewhere like that, and enjoy shooting red boxes instead of red crosses. It's more exciting that way.
Just don't be this guy with the blinged out mission ship, because I can guarantee his post added him to a ganker's watchlist somewhere.
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1054
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:05:00 -
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Shobon Blueshooter wrote: Just don't be this guy with the blinged out mission ship, because I can guarantee his post added him to a ganker's watchlist somewhere.
Shh don't tip him off |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
534
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Posted - 2014.07.30 03:41:00 -
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IIshira wrote:NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:It's not suicide to PvE without a TP if you have Cruise Launchers and 3 Rigors, it's just not smart. Always have a TP when using missiles. However, if you're worried about losing a Raven Navy Issue to PvE, then you should probably get the Scorpion Navy Issue as it can tank much better.
Something like this for the Raven: 8x Cruise Launcher II
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp Republic Fleet TP 2x Brokara's Cap Recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Gravimetric Backup II
2x Rigor II CCC
or something like this for the SNI: 6x Cruise Launcher II Salvager/Tractor Beam
2x Pithum B-Type Invuln Pith X-Type Large Shield booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amp 2x Domination TP MJD Brokara's Cap recharger
4x CN Ballistic Control Unit Cormack's Power Diagnostic System
CCC II CCC Rigor II
Both work extremely well. And both will get ganked very quickly. So much faction and officer mods aren't needed. The only deadspace mod you "need" is a shield booster. You can keep that under 200 million. CN BCS are nice if you're in a quiet system. I've ran missions with my CNR with all T2 mods except the large shield booster that cost less than 100 million. I've never had to warp out of a mission. Not saying those fits are bad by any means. They're just loot pi+¦atas I am with IIshira. My ravens and navy ravens got cn bcs, t2 launchers and some other t2 mods, and a couple meta 4 mods. I run missions just fine, I don't even bother shopping for fancy faction mods. Officer mods? I could not care less about 'em.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
The Djego
Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition
262
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Posted - 2014.07.30 19:36:00 -
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Capt Acid wrote:So the TLDR question: Can I fly a Raven Navy Issue without a target painter if I fit her with two or three Rigor Catalysts? Also would my Hornet IIGÇÖs be able to deal with any web/scram frigs or would I be at their mercy?
I am kicking around the idea of flying a Raven Navy Issue as I am a missile flinger and shield tanker it seems to be logical to pick her over the Scorpion Navy Issue. Now I dislike having to use target painters due to the abominable cycle time and range issues so that got me to drooling over the RNIGÇÖs 5% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius, that adds up to a 25% bonus as I have Caldari Battleship 5. So here is my question if I shove x3 Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I or X2 Rigor IIs and a Flair would the RNI be able to apply DMG to Cruisers well enough to one or two shot them without target painters or is it lunacy to fly a RNI without a TP? Also if a TP is mandatory is one enough or do I need two?
Thanks and fly safe.
It will not kill most cruisers unpainted in one volley, 2 T2 rigors and one T1 flare is the standard setup. 1 painter can be enough for some BCs, however I always use 2 and cycle them around together over cruisers or use 1-2 on frigs that I kill with sentry drones while I shoot BS. Btw the painter cycle is now shorter then the CM launcher cycle making them very easy to shift around between volleys.
baltec1 wrote:Ravens have been doing missions without target painters for a decade.
Doing something wrong for a decade doesn't make it right. It is a massive waste of applied dps and time for no good reason beside being lazy. Improve discharge rigging: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246166&find=unread
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
265
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Posted - 2014.07.31 02:47:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Capt Acid wrote:So the TLDR question: Can I fly a Raven Navy Issue without a target painter if I fit her with two or three Rigor Catalysts? Also would my Hornet IIGÇÖs be able to deal with any web/scram frigs or would I be at their mercy?
I am kicking around the idea of flying a Raven Navy Issue as I am a missile flinger and shield tanker it seems to be logical to pick her over the Scorpion Navy Issue. Now I dislike having to use target painters due to the abominable cycle time and range issues so that got me to drooling over the RNIGÇÖs 5% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius, that adds up to a 25% bonus as I have Caldari Battleship 5. So here is my question if I shove x3 Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I or X2 Rigor IIs and a Flair would the RNI be able to apply DMG to Cruisers well enough to one or two shot them without target painters or is it lunacy to fly a RNI without a TP? Also if a TP is mandatory is one enough or do I need two?
Thanks and fly safe.
You can fly a Raven Navy Issue without a target painter. If you have decent drone skills it's not suicide either. Would I recommend it.. No! Many things have changed. Target painters have a 5 second cycle time... Micro Jump Drive kicks you out 100 km even if you're being scrammed by an NPC.. You'll be able to kill the frigates before they even get close. There are many ways to skin the cat. Here's one. [Raven Navy Issue, Missions] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Large Micro Jump Drive Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Large Ionic Field Projector I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Hobgoblin II x5 Warden II x3
Scrams shut down MJD. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2014.07.31 02:54:00 -
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Good thing its a mission fit then isn't it? |
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