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a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:20:00 -
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ME 10%, TE 20% (perfect) BPO
Starting bid.......125 bil Reserve............150 bil Buyout..............175 bil
Sniper rule.......1 day End of auction..Aug, 30 |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.28 18:30:00 -
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Now T2 BPO is the best long time investment instrument paying high dividends being used in production. |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:59:00 -
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A new day |
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:07:00 -
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An overpriced bpo |
Rusot
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:30:00 -
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35b |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.31 23:01:00 -
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Agata Matahari: Thank you very much for your opinion! Rusot: Thanks a lot for the initial bid you've made!
it's true that after the patch which we've got 10 days ago, we should reprice some ethernal values like T2 BPOs. and I suppose that somebody can say: T2 BPOs are worth less... but i remember a phrase said by a wise man: Buy land, they're not making it anymore (Mark Twain)
being rephrased in EVE: Buy T2 BPOs, they're not making it anymore
p.s. Anyway initial prise has been changed according to the initial bid and the new reality. Good luck! |
Elysium Mons
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.01 00:58:00 -
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38b |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.03 09:10:00 -
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still active |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.04 21:25:00 -
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Claymore price 299,4 mil ISK per unit, Jita 4-4 |
Elysium Mons
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.05 04:48:00 -
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40b buyout. |
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a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.05 19:30:00 -
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Cost of Construction (No teams) 232.8 mil ISK per unit, Jita 4-4 ask prices |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.07 21:10:00 -
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66.6 mil/ship * 25 ships/month = 1.67 bil/month = 20 bil/year net profit |
Big Lynx
Destructive Mechanics Quam'Nocent
569
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:26:00 -
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20b |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.08 19:20:00 -
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thanks for the bump! highest bid is 40 for now reserve not met
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a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.09 19:11:00 -
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still the best BPO to invest |
USS OMAHA
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.09 23:00:00 -
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45b |
Neckbeard Nolyfe
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.10 15:20:00 -
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a warm wrote:Agata Matahari: Thank you very much for your opinion! Rusot: Thanks a lot for the initial bid you've made!
it's true that after the patch which we've got 10 days ago, we should reprice some ethernal values like T2 BPOs. and I suppose that somebody can say: T2 BPOs are worth less... but i remember a phrase said by a wise man: Buy land, they're not making it anymore (Mark Twain)
being rephrased in EVE: Buy T2 BPOs, they're not making it anymore
p.s. Anyway initial price has been changed according to the first bid and the new reality. Good luck!
You don't know that, stop spreading rumors. |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.10 18:50:00 -
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Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote: You don't know that, stop spreading rumors.
does it mean you have any real proof they do produce new T2 BPOs now? or just 'spreading rumors'?
USS OMAHA: thanks for the bid! |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.11 23:42:00 -
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up |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.14 20:00:00 -
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20 bil/year net profit BPO still here |
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a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:53:00 -
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Friday bump |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.16 22:04:00 -
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Don't waste your opportunity to get constant cashflow BPO |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.17 20:34:00 -
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bump |
a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:58:00 -
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it's monday, time to think about ingame money source |
Elysium Mons
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.18 20:32:00 -
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46 |
Terminator Cindy
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:35:00 -
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a warm wrote:66.6 mil/ship * 25 ships/month = 1.67 bil/month = 20 bil/year net profit
Maybe you should add a second line : 175 bil / 20 bil per year = 8.75 years to get your money back. That is 11.43% payback investment rate. Pretty low when there are so many better alternatives that do not require investing such a large sum into one single item.
If you are ever to get that price, it will be for its collection value not for the profit rate mate.
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a warm
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.19 23:36:00 -
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Elysium Mons, thanks for the bid! Terminator Cindy thanks for your message a lot! i've started my calculations and now i can definitely say that the profit i mentioned in this topic (direct production at POS) is not optimal and has to be much HIGHER if i use BPO copies to make ships. approximately 1.4 times higher, so we get at least 28 bil per year (exact numbers will be later). as for the 'better alternatives' you probably mean PLEX which gives average 3% per month for a long horizon (794.5m now and 551m a year ago). but PLEX is very volatile. for example if you bought a bunch of PLEX a month ago for 800m/unit, now to cover your current expenditures you'd sell it for 794.5m. add taxation and your loss will be more obvious in this case. PLEX is nice for a buy and hold strategy, not to finance your daily needs. and of course being a volatile instrument it has to offer higher payment for the risk. meanwhile T2 BPO generates stable cash flow everytime and every year costs more than before, it never depreciates. anyway we don't know its real price before this auction ends so i change 175 b/o for 'mail me'. thanks! |
Ahora Velishi
New Eden Casino DOT
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Posted - 2014.08.20 03:30:00 -
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The only thing you forgot to mention....
CCP has pretty much "without comitting to it" said that they will one day remove T2 bpos
Is this 100% - nope maybe it wont happen
but if you cant make the money back b4 that time.... then you are screwed! |
Zahara Cody
Imperial Corrections Service.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:46:00 -
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Can you confirm/deny whether or not they will compensate t2 bpo owners if they so choose to remove them? |
Shigeru Shibuya
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerates
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:51:00 -
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Lets look at the actual profit for the BPO
Jita Sell order Price - 295,000,000 Production Cost* - 244,035,842.61 Units per Month - 16.54
Monthly Profit - 794,351,869 Yearly Profit - 9,532,222,423
Production cost assumptions 1) Build in Empire factory with .09% tax rate (Yes that is the minimum possible - somewhere non-busy in low-sec) 2) Purchase components in jita with Buy orders. 3) No teams
Clearly the seller is pulling profit numbers out of his a!$ . . . oops I mean hat . . .
It's still a nice BPO (at least until CCP fixes invention) but it's not a 175 Billion BPO, its a 40-50 billion BPO.
You can pick up a set of crappy T2 ammo BPOs with the same profit for under 35 Billion . . .
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