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Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:27:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote: 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner
Who cares about peasants? |
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
216
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:31:00 -
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"Project Leigon", for heaven's sake, proofread what you type before your butterfinger hits the post-button!
In serious news, what I heard so far about Legion sounds neat. Hopefully it won't end up like Dust: Slowly dying. |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
128
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:33:00 -
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RAIN Arthie wrote:Was reading news articles on it.
What I learned.
1: Dust 514 is now behind the back burner 2: People are pissed at CCP for putting it behind the back burner 3: Instead of making DUST better they simply ignore and start over calling it "Project Leigon" 4: CCP devs at fanfest couldn't accuratly answer questions about DUST514, or back peddled. 5: CCP has yet to put a project Leigon forum slot on the forums. 6: FPS on PC platforms will work. However they are ruining the cross platform reputation. 7: They are going to lose fans for the betrayal. 8: More hollow promises.
If I'm wrong let me know.
1. It's on the back burner. 2. Yes, but Dust-bunnies are always pissed. 3. Dust is a lost cause on a really, really old platform. It will never be what we want it to be on PS3. 4. Welcome to Eve. 5. Wrong. See my previous post. 6. FPS on PC is superior to console. And what cross platform reputation? 7. Dust has the same number of players now as they did before fanfest. By some accounts it actually made the game more fun when all the proto-stomping bitter-vets left. 8. See point 4. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
563
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:39:00 -
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Mahadiva wrote:Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform.
When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool.
I was super excited for Dust till I found out it was ps3 only. And since the PS4 is out now, they surely should have seen a change coming sometime soonGäó how long can a ps3 game be supported at this point? You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Baij
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:11:00 -
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I was hoping Legion would be on the ps4 |
NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
871
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Posted - 2014.07.28 22:24:00 -
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Legion is Dust for PC, just as everyone and quite a few grandmothers wanted.
Why it somehow kills Dust, when it is Dust, I dont know. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1028
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Posted - 2014.07.28 22:34:00 -
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Mahadiva wrote:Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform.
When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. And so was the premise for Dust. Fanbois almost wet themselves when they saw demos of planetary interaction.
No matter what the platform they need to make a good game. Ideas alone do not equal success, the execution has to support the idea. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
2718
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Posted - 2014.07.28 22:44:00 -
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Da Dom wrote:I will explain
Dust/Legion: CoD clone
What is the average attention span of FPS players?
Well they've been playing Planetside and now Planetside 2 for years now. The problem isn't the attention span of the player, its the depth of the game. If we're not supposed to shoot pods in hisec, why are they filled with meat? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5159
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Posted - 2014.07.29 00:04:00 -
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For the love of God CCP please just drop this crap and let us shoot each other in stations and board ships.
The players will do the rest. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1035
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Posted - 2014.07.29 02:35:00 -
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So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following.
What to do next ???
I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console.
yeah that should work out well |
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
2370
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Posted - 2014.07.29 06:19:00 -
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DUST 514 was Legion's Alpha test. More of a proof of concept game if anything. While DUST 514 was disappointing both to the players (and although they won't admit it, CCP) it does prove that it's possible to integrate the EVE severs with the severs of another game, even across platforms.
Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
791
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:10:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:ccp remember one thing... I am an EVE player.... everytime you try put some other title... I feel cheated.... especially when you try to put it on different platform..... I dont like that you are waisting human resources on other games You have build your player base through this 10years.... but you are gliding on the edge... really... I bet there are others that want to take your place... and they see and listen prolly this forums too... to learn from your mistakes, So stop waisting our time and start to take care of your eve players... start repairing this game... not for 2years but now, because for 2 years you may wake up with nothing and there will be only fairy tales about eve nothing more...
Have you not been paying attention? what do you think ccp is doing? They are repairing eve. Fixing old crap that needs a refresh or a fix, and laying the ground work for new stuff.
It takes time to fix anything, but they are fixing eve now, not two years form now, now. It might just take 2 years for the average player who is not paying attention to notice. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:18:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following.
What to do next ???
I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console.
yeah that should work out well What happened to the vampire dressup game? ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
791
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:19:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following.
What to do next ???
I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console.
yeah that should work out well
There is a law of business that reads essentually "don't keep all your eggs in on basket"
It works well for manufacturing or in this case, programing houses.
White Wolf was bought in 06.. i think, might of been 05... anyway, making WoD was a BRILLIANT idea, no not sarcastic, it truly was brilliant. The issue is, if they had released it when the first set was done, and actually got something out there, they might of made money hand over fist as vampires were and still are EXTREMELY popular. The problem is, however, ccp scrapped it 3 times and started over, wrote there own engine, killed it, and bought a stock one.
I don;t blame ccp for wanting to expand, for wanting to make WoD and then Dust on ps3. The issues however, is hat they screwed up with WoD and a game that should of maybe taken 2 years to complete, took 8 years before being canned. They got themselves over stretched, and i hurt them. Now they changed focus, and have 2 new games coming, but in areas that maybe they can control better. But we will see.
Making WoD and Dust was smart movies in concept. Failing to get WoD out years ago, and not making Dust its full potential was stupid. If Dust had linked to eve in a meaningful way, it would of succeeded better. You would still have the eve players whining, but the point of dust was not for eve players, it was to expand and get new customers. They just should of made it so we cared. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
Lido Seahawk
Norr Amalgamated Industries
159
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:19:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?
The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it.
I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. May I have your stuff? |
Garia666
CyberShield Inc Triumvirate.
80
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Posted - 2014.07.29 07:48:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:For the love of God CCP please just drop this crap and let us shoot each other in stations and board ships.
The players will do the rest.
its called starcitizen ;) |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3304
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:50:00 -
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Lido Seahawk wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?
The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. You know you can filter them out of local right?
"Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Lido Seahawk
Norr Amalgamated Industries
159
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:13:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:. You know you can filter them out of local right?
Doh! Yes, of course, I knew that! What makes you think I didn't know that? I mean c'mon, everyone knows that! Sheeesh.....
May I have your stuff? |
Rayo Atra
Aliastra Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:39:00 -
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Its been hit on, but i wanted a "go" as well.
Cross Platform! No. I am usually not a CCP critic, as they make an awesome game that ive enjoyed for over 7 years.
The shooter Idea is cool, I am completely for ANYTHING that expands the New Eden Universe. Legion, Valk, hell even WIS
That being said. I have no interest in playing with consoles. No interest in playing with console people. I dont want their community, ignorance, attention span, or the children that come with it. Not now, not ever. They shouldn't be here. Their supporters shouldn't be here. Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.
-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
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Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
65
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:31:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: 6) its really not RAIN doing this, its his cat who commandeered the keyboard.
they're learning to shiptoast.....God help us all.
+1 to autocorrect |
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Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
65
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:34:00 -
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Lido Seahawk wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?
The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game.
You can remove bunnies from your local filter |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
132
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:37:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following.
What to do next ???
I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console.
yeah that should work out well What happened to the vampire dressup game?
After 8 years of development they produced this lovely coat I'm wearing. And then they cancelled it. |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
353
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:45:00 -
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Not so much upset with the whole console vs pc with it's the fact that they didn't do what they said they would. Orbital strikes eve market and DUST market come together. NEVER HAPPENED. Weather they are COD kids or hardcore EVE players I don't care. Just don't make something and tell lies.
I'd prefer to FPS on console that way it removes strain from my computer so I have 2 different machines doing 2 different things. |
mow hawk
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:56:00 -
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Zero Sum Gain wrote:Lido Seahawk wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?
The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. You can remove bunnies from your local filter
Dust bunnies?
harhar.
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Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM Silent Requiem
66
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Posted - 2014.07.29 19:54:00 -
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mow hawk wrote:Zero Sum Gain wrote:Lido Seahawk wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Why are you, a pc gamer, concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?
The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it. I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game. You can remove bunnies from your local filter Dust bunnies? harhar.
You've... never heard them called that? |
mow hawk
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 19:56:00 -
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No.....I haven't.
I live in a cave. |
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:29:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Mahadiva wrote:Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform.
When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I'm gonna disagree. The biggest mistake was not linking it to eve in a meaningful way. If eve players had given a **** about dust players, dust could of found its footing. But as we did not care, dust had no support when it stumbled.
I would love to carpet bomb a planet and wreck Dust players day
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1041
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:58:00 -
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Kalishka Ashkulf wrote:DaReaper wrote:Mahadiva wrote:Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform.
When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool. I'm gonna disagree. The biggest mistake was not linking it to eve in a meaningful way. If eve players had given a **** about dust players, dust could of found its footing. But as we did not care, dust had no support when it stumbled. I would love to carpet bomb a planet and wreck Dust players day
Problem was you could only use a frigate and only if a dust bunny called you in. Generally it was simpler and more effective for the dust bunny to call in an NPC strike. Also the particular dust bunny you were speaking to could suddenly redploy and reappear somewhere 30 jumps from your current location.
The eve/dust interaction was not exactly well thought out. |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
354
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:41:00 -
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I would have to agree that dust players are quite dim. I like to call them COD drop outs. I hopped on yesterday hopeing for something engaging. I got my asz beat by players halo jumping and stalking spawn points. Not one person worked together and we lose time and time again. XP is very limited, even for a win. This game could have been epic. |
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