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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2014.07.29 11:48:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Cannibal Kane.
Nuff said. Meh, I don't think making war official enough for military forces to not get involved is something terrorists do :)
Low security space pirates are KOS in high security space. This might qualify. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1656
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Posted - 2014.07.29 11:57:00 -
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As Schmata said, people preying on nullsec renters are the closest you can get to terrorists in EVE.
1) they often do more damage with fear than with actual ganks
2) I guess some of them may have what you could call a 'political agenda' - for example to convince renters that renting is not worth it and/or that their landlords screwed them; possibly to point them towards the other landlords EVE Online: Death-o-meter |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2354
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:04:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Cannibal Kane.
Nuff said. Meh, I don't think making war official enough for military forces to not get involved is something terrorists do :) Low security space pirates are KOS in high security space. This might qualify.
Well, what is more terrifying (let's assume for a moment you get terrified by pixels, ok?): flashy red skull wearing -10 that everybody gets system wide warning about and you know he's there to cause troubles
OR
your dedicated ore hauler suddenly returning from station in cat instead of miasmos and suiciding on your fresh hulk?
You know ebilpiwate iz bad and you expect only worst from him but your carebear friend who you talked to and exchanged funny pictures with since months? If you cannot trust people like him who can you trust? Nobody!
The horror, the horror... Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
352
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:27:00 -
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Kalishka Ashkulf wrote:Is there such a thing in Eve? I was curious as I have seen pirates, war Corps, industrialists, bounty hunters etc, but nobody labeling themselves as terrorists. Even on the Eve personality test, the closest thing to a terrorist I could see was a "freedom fighter". If there is no such thing as a terrorist in Eve, I may have to look further into the subject
Those who talk, don't know. Those who know don't talk. Shhhhh. Walk away little girly nothing to see here. |
Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:38:00 -
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the thing is people you consider as terrorists don't consider them self as terrorists they see them self as freedom fighters
the only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist is point of view during the conflict.
if the terrorist/freedom fighters win history will remember them as freedom fighters if they lose history will remember them as a terrorist group that was taken out.
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Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
196
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:39:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:As Schmata said, people preying on nullsec renters are the closest you can get to terrorists in EVE.
1) they often do more damage with fear than with actual ganks
2) I guess some of them may have what you could call a 'political agenda' - for example to convince renters that renting is not worth it and/or that their landlords screwed them; possibly to point them towards the other landlords
We terrorized one renter so badly with a single ceptor that he ejected from his barge and warped off leaving a trail of ***** in the sky before the ceptor pilot noticed the pod popping possibility. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
4276
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:55:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Cannibal Kane.
Nuff said. That guy was awesome, true shame he sold his char. EDIT: Wait, Kane did sell his char, right? I remember reading some post of him about that in (I think) GD... It is unclear..
Edit: Looks like Mr. Kane clarified above that this didn't go forward. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) |
evefas
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:27:00 -
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Bring back mines and you can become a terrorist |
Martin Corwin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:41:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:There shouldn't be anything in a game that causes terror. So I'd say no. Looking forward to Alien: Isolation. So I'd say yes. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:52:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
One man's Freedom Fighter is another man's terrorist
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:56:00 -
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Would it be considered terrorism if for some reason you attacked some alliance SOV for :reasons: but never taking it? Like just trashing all the structures and leaving the system empty because your cause is just to cause trouble to your "enemy"? |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:00:00 -
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Here was an interesting suggestion though does not address how a null corp wouldn't use the same tactics. I think concept of terrorism exists where one side has stricter ethical standards of warfare than the other. In EVE I'm not sure that's possible.
Quote from the article:
Quote:What we need is space terrorism. Asymmetrical warfare. I should be able to get ten reasonably well-skilled pilots and go put a dent in CFC's jump bridge network, or **** up N3's moon goo production, or somehow cost the power blocs money and power the same way small guerrilla groups can in the real world. There is no game mechanic to support a true insurgency. Some of the pieces are present, but it's not like I can assassinate a titan pilot or fly a cargo hauler loaded with explosives straight into a control tower. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:07:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Here was an interesting suggestion though does not address how a null corp wouldn't use the same tactics. I think concept of terrorism exists where one side has stricter ethical standards of warfare than the other. In EVE I'm not sure that's possible. Quote from the article: Quote:What we need is space terrorism. Asymmetrical warfare. I should be able to get ten reasonably well-skilled pilots and go put a dent in CFC's jump bridge network, or **** up N3's moon goo production, or somehow cost the power blocs money and power the same way small guerrilla groups can in the real world. There is no game mechanic to support a true insurgency. Some of the pieces are present, but it's not like I can assassinate a titan pilot or fly a cargo hauler loaded with explosives straight into a control tower.
It's not gonna happen because the "good" side (the one being attacked by these "terror" action don't need morals in the game so they would just use the same technique with the advantage of numbers.
Creating yourself more enemies because of your action is an issue IRL that prevent country like the US from using their numbers in a raw way because it's hard to tell the press you are bombing a country into a parking for good reason. In EVE, you don't have such limitation. Carpet bombing a country because they ahrbor terrorist is a not that great of an idea if it means 40 other countries turn on you for using such barbaric forces. Doing it in EVE is content creation. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5164
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:13:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:As Schmata said, people preying on nullsec renters are the closest you can get to terrorists in EVE.
1) they often do more damage with fear than with actual ganks
2) I guess some of them may have what you could call a 'political agenda' - for example to convince renters that renting is not worth it and/or that their landlords screwed them; possibly to point them towards the other landlords
Disrupting people who have rent to pay is probably a kind of terrorism. It's like getting lost in the woods. People who are not on a schedule are least likely to panic. Those who are thinking about ending up in the news, not showing up at work, and the potentiality of the state sending them the bill for the fuel for the search helicopter is apt to make the lost woodsman step up his pace and search for the path even more frantically, making him more lost, which will....... Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Mochalatte
The Post Rain Mafia
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:23:00 -
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AFK cloakies are the terrorist of EVE. |
Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:24:00 -
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In DUST I have been known to make the occasional Car Bomb and blow it up in crowds. |
Liam Inkuras
Top Belt Heroes
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:26:00 -
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I still want self destruct to inflict AOE damage. I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4204
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:32:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:I still want self destruct to inflict AOE damage. ...screaming "DIE INFIDEL DOG!!!" |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:50:00 -
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Mochalatte wrote:AFK cloakies are the terrorist of EVE. AFK cloaking should get a buff - add a skill / module so after a number of hours logged on in a system without leaving it you can see all corp chat messages sent by anyone in that system. |
RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:52:00 -
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We are all "freedom fighters" to some extent. |
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SandKid
Gateway Mining Division
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:58:00 -
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The New Order or w/e it's called is the right activity - but much like RL terrorists, they would argue they are 'idealists'.
The term terrorism totally depends on who you are asking. The tactic is used constantly in legitimate warfare in hisec, you just don't see people calling it such because in EvE there are no 'rules' - thus, terrorism (breaking the rules of honorable engagement) is not possible since said rules don't actually exist.
Food for Thought. |
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:04:00 -
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SandKid wrote:The New Order or w/e it's called is the right activity - but much like RL terrorists, they would argue they are 'idealists'.
The term terrorism totally depends on who you are asking. The tactic is used constantly in legitimate warfare in hisec, you just don't see people calling it such because in EvE there are no 'rules' - thus, terrorism (breaking the rules of honorable engagement) is not possible since said rules don't actually exist.
Food for Thought.
Ok, that makes sense (along with people who posted similar responses). I can see how freedom fighter can equal terrorist to the opposing side. |
Tamas Bekker
Blackstar Solutions
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:50:00 -
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Id say the sansha incursions are terroists. if you watch the incursions trailer the sansha leader is text book bond villain and kind of reminds me of Kane from the brother hood of nod - command and conquer. |
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
400
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:56:00 -
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Define "terrorist." I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Brit Green
The Actinic Agency
38
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:59:00 -
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Mochalatte wrote:AFK cloakies are the terrorist of EVE. I'm surprised it took to page 3. They are the only people that can clear a 0.0 system just by being there or fill the forum with threads from the fearful masses.
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Tamas Bekker
Blackstar Solutions
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:03:00 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:Define "terrorist."
I freedom fighter, that is fighting against you and not for you... That's the rub. |
Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:10:00 -
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does making people uncomfortable in local chat count as terrorism |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1992
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:25:00 -
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The word has lost all meaning in the last decade, you'll have to be more specific. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:54:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Harry Forever Yes. For a while there the carebear insurrection terrorized the area around the Mittaningrad. Neutrals in Local-- in cloak Thrashers! "Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.07.29 19:17:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Cannibal Kane.
Nuff said.
No, Cane is the USA, wardeccing everything left, right and center for good justice. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
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