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Wayne Littell
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.07.29 12:46:00 -
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Hello,
Don't know if already mentionned around here :
I just noticed another 1000dps bug on the 2 worms I just bought.
Take 2 worms in you hangar. - Fit the ship with drones loaded in drone bay. DPS is ok. - Switch to the other worm drones with drones loaded The worm is 1000dps.
I tried to undock it still mention 1000dps.
Different from last week exploit report... You dont have to abandon your drones. You just switch from one worm to another in station and you got that insane bonus.
This ship is already broken, he doesn't need another exploit like this ^^ Petition posted.
Regards WL |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1053
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:03:00 -
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I understand making a petition to inform CCP but what's the point of letting everyone know about this exploit? |
Wayne Littell
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:11:00 -
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To encourage people avoidin fights with/against these ships till it's solved.. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
4047
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:13:00 -
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IIshira wrote:I understand making a petition to inform CCP but what's the point of letting everyone know about this exploit?
Well... I suppose we should mention CCP banned players caught utilizing the Guerista ships exploit before, and this should warn people that CCP now know about this bug and exploiting it will likely get you banned.
Then this has a decent post.
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Magormor
Neon Incorporated 404 Alliance Not Found
22
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:30:00 -
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Could just be a UI bug, please test done damage shots on another ship.
I have seen this before but it is only UI, and the damage is normal. |
Wayne Littell
Prima Gallicus
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:49:00 -
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It appears to be effective on the first hit of the drones. Then it's back to normal. First hit has a huge alpha (Oneshot a vex standard shield, so 1000 dps is about correct), then back to normal...
If anyone can confirm this... |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1053
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:17:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:IIshira wrote:I understand making a petition to inform CCP but what's the point of letting everyone know about this exploit? Well... I suppose we should mention CCP banned players caught utilizing the Guerista ships exploit before, and this should warn people that CCP now know about this bug and exploiting it will likely get you banned. Then this has a decent post. I'm sure if people see their frigate is doing 1k DPS you don't need to be told something is wrong. I would like to think most Eve players have some sense.
The problem with posting this is now people are going to try it. |
Garak n00biachi
Capital Destruction Brig Consortium
138
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:23:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:IIshira wrote:I understand making a petition to inform CCP but what's the point of letting everyone know about this exploit? Well... I suppose we should mention CCP banned players caught utilizing the Guerista ships exploit before, and this should warn people that CCP now know about this bug and exploiting it will likely get you banned. Then this has a decent post. I'm sure if people see their frigate is doing 1k DPS you don't need to be told something is wrong. I would like to think most Eve players have some sense. The problem with posting this is now people are going to try it.
If a person reads about an exploit on the freaking official forums that person deserves the ban
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Wayne Littell
Prima Gallicus
0
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:28:00 -
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I hope a lot of people will try it and confirm it's an UI bug. And if not that CCP will change this...
(after severall tests it might be an UI bug indeed...) |
Liam Inkuras
Top Belt Heroes
1222
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:51:00 -
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Those numbers you posted seem pretty normal for a Worm using 'Augmented' drones, assuming 2x DDA
Edit: also notice the hit quality notifications. The big number ones are from "smashing" hits, and the lower numbers are, as expected, "grazing" and "hitting" hits. I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
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GreenSeed
1095
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:20:00 -
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those numbers are fine for a worm with augment hobs and 2x DDAs.
source: i usually give away augmented hobs and woms in dodi.
Dodixie. visit for the contests, stay for the deals.-« |
O'nira
United System's Commonwealth
19
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Posted - 2014.08.01 01:30:00 -
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those numbers imply that its a UI bug only, especially if it was an armor tanked vexor wich by the looks of those numbers it was. |
Valleria Darkmoon
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
291
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:28:00 -
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Wayne Littell wrote:It appears to be effective on the first hit of the drones. Then it's back to normal. First hit has a huge alpha (Oneshot a vex standard shield, so 1000 dps is about correct), then back to normal...
If anyone can confirm this... Logs seems to confirm the first hit trouble... or not
2014.07.29 13:42:39 ] (combat) 451 ADNA](Vexor) - 'Augmented' Hobgoblin - Smashes [ 2014.07.29 13:42:39 ] (combat) 410 ADNA](Vexor - 'Augmented' Hobgoblin - Smashes [ 2014.07.29 13:42:42 ] (combat) 164 ADNA](Vexor) - 'Augmented' Hobgoblin - Grazes [ 2014.07.29 13:42:42 ] (combat) 352 ADNA](Vexor) - 'Augmented' Hobgoblin - Penetrates [ 2014.07.29 13:42:47 ] (combat) 229 ADNA](Vexor> - 'Augmented' Hobgoblin - Smashes [ 2014.07.29 13:42:47 ] (combat) 206 ADNA](Vexor) - 'Augmented' Hobgoblin - Penetrates [ 2014.07.29 13:42:51 ] (combat) 181 ADNA](Vexor) - 'Augmented' Hobgoblin - Penetrates [ 2014.07.29 13:42:51 ] (combat) 133 ADNA](Vexor) - 'Augmented' Hobgoblin - Hits This is a pretty small sample size and looks about right for 6x a normal drone hit. Although you didn't say, I suspect that Vexor was armor tanked by the fact that the first two "Smashes" hits are for 451 and 410 while the third is for 229 where I'd expect the Vexor to be in armor. Likewise first "Penetrates" is for 352 (probably low shield) and the second pair is for 206 and 181 (probably armor). The "hit" being for less damage than the "grazes" is pretty telling as well.
I don't really see first hit trouble here so much as I see damage vs. untanked shields and damage vs. tanked armor. If I'm way off base here then please clarify.
In the meantime if you suspect you have discovered an exploit then you did the right thing by petitioning it. I suspect it is just a UI bug as well but if you're not convinced then to avoid any trouble for yourself, don't do it any more until you have an official response. Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification. |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
55
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Posted - 2014.08.01 10:18:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:IIshira wrote:I understand making a petition to inform CCP but what's the point of letting everyone know about this exploit? Well... I suppose we should mention CCP banned players caught utilizing the Guerista ships exploit before, and this should warn people that CCP now know about this bug and exploiting it will likely get you banned. Then this has a decent post. I'm sure if people see their frigate is doing 1k DPS you don't need to be told something is wrong. I would like to think most Eve players have some sense. The problem with posting this is now people are going to try it. I dunno, I've got a 1k DPS bomber fit around somewhere. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
572
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Posted - 2014.08.02 06:16:00 -
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every now and then the fitting window just seems to give crazy numbers. I've yet to actually have a godmode ship so I'm guessing it is a display bug. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Marc Durant
68
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:15:00 -
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Given how slow CCP tends to be at times to react to issues like these, the best thing is to bring it out in the open so that it won't keep lingering on for 1-2 more weeks where people do abuse it (that is, if it's a real issue). So it shortens the time between people knowing about, CCP waking up and then making statements on it.
On top of that any moron who thinks "that sounds like a really cool exploit, lets use that" will get an easy ban. I really do hope tons of people try this. Yes, yes-áI am. Thanks for noticing.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8408
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Posted - 2014.08.03 23:59:00 -
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*sigh*
First of all, you're a couple weeks too late, the exploit with super drones has been discovered already.
Secondly, if you think have discovered an exploit, the terms of service require that you NOT post anything about it on the official forums.
Submit a petition to the GMs, and let them handle it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8408
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Posted - 2014.08.04 00:01:00 -
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Marc Durant wrote:Given how slow CCP tends to be at times to react to issues like these, the best thing is to bring it out in the open so that it won't keep lingering on for 1-2 more weeks where people do abuse it (that is, if it's a real issue). So it shortens the time between people knowing about, CCP waking up and then making statements on it.
Doing this is strictly against the terms of service. For good reason.
Blowing it out of proportion isn't going to make them able to code the exploit out of the game any faster, it just gives them more cleanup to do afterward, and more people get banned.
Proliferating knowledge of an exploit is literally the worst thing you can possibly do, and it rightly carries the punishment of being banned. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1073
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Posted - 2014.08.04 00:26:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Marc Durant wrote:Given how slow CCP tends to be at times to react to issues like these, the best thing is to bring it out in the open so that it won't keep lingering on for 1-2 more weeks where people do abuse it (that is, if it's a real issue). So it shortens the time between people knowing about, CCP waking up and then making statements on it. Doing this is strictly against the terms of service. For good reason. Blowing it out of proportion isn't going to make them able to code the exploit out of the game any faster, it just gives them more cleanup to do afterward, and more people get banned. Proliferating knowledge of an exploit is literally the worst thing you can possibly do, and it rightly carries the punishment of being banned.
I just thought it was a bad idea to make explots pubic but didn't know it was against the TOS and could get you banned.
Number 23 if you don't want to read though it all http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-tos/
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Phaade
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
230
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Posted - 2014.08.04 02:47:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:IIshira wrote:I understand making a petition to inform CCP but what's the point of letting everyone know about this exploit? Well... I suppose we should mention CCP banned players caught utilizing the Guerista ships exploit before, and this should warn people that CCP now know about this bug and exploiting it will likely get you banned. Then this has a decent post. I'm sure if people see their frigate is doing 1k DPS you don't need to be told something is wrong. I would like to think most Eve players have some sense. The problem with posting this is now people are going to try it.
And be banned for it. Good. |
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Wayne Littell
Prima Gallicus
1
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Posted - 2014.08.04 07:21:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:*sigh*
First of all, you're a couple weeks too late, the exploit with super drones has been discovered already.
Secondly, if you think have discovered an exploit, the terms of service require that you NOT post anything about it on the official forums.
Submit a petition to the GMs, and let them handle it.
sigh (as well)
You're talkin about THE OTHER drone exploit, nothing to do with this (or show me a thread mentionnin THIS kind of bug). I wrote up there it was 95% an UI bug BTW. Show me the ToS chapter you talkin about. I'm not doing any exploit advertising, I'm trying to stay IN th ToS guidelines, not undocking a maybe broken ship, checkin if others had the issue.
Still no answer from CCP 99% an UI bug now.
o/
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8421
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Posted - 2014.08.04 08:36:00 -
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Wayne Littell wrote: Show me the ToS chapter you talkin about.
Someone else already did.
Quote: Still no answer from CCP
Why would you want one? It would just lead to you getting a forum ban at least.
Nevermind the fact that they don't answer to you, they don't owe you an explanation of anything here. Especially since, if you now believe it to be a bug instead of an exploit (in which case you should report your own thread for a lock, since the title kinda makes this iredeemable), you posted it in the wrong forum.
But hey, if you really want one, we can have a crack at it. I just reported the thread for closure, reason being attempting to spread knowledge of an exploit. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Wayne Littell
Prima Gallicus
1
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Posted - 2014.08.04 12:10:00 -
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You're a great guy indeed. Did you also ask for me to get banned? You should ask if not already bro, good work.
jeez... |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3303
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Posted - 2014.08.04 15:57:00 -
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Quote:15. Posting about bugs and exploits is prohibited.
Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper channels. Bugs should be brought to the attention of CCP by filing a bug report for our Quality Assurance department. More information on filing bug reports can be found here. Discussions about unverified issues in game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue that the EVE Online community needs to be aware of, it will be communicated via an official statement from CCP after thorough investigation. Thread locked. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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