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Major Trant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 20:40:00 -
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1. Before starting the campaign carry out a reality check. Are your leaders arseholes?
2. When bragging about your achievements, achieve them first. . Right: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=360868&find=unread . Wrong: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=356851&find=unread
3. When scheduling your allies to cover times and plexes, try to avoid putting allies together who hate each others guts.
4. Do not compare yourself to the Elite Special Forces in RL, you are a nerd in a bugged and flawed internet game. If you really were that good, you wouldn't be here.
5. If you are going to carry out some form of Psy-op campaign against the enemy. Try to have some method of measuring the effectiveness of your strategy. Just guessing the effect and making a lot of noise about it, only makes you look stupid.
6. When deciding whether you are winning or not, you have to factor in the enemies objectives in the equation. So for example picking off a Rifter in a novice plex with a Garmur is not a win, if the enemy close the plex.
7. Find out the smack talk policies of your allies and try to avoid putting allies with conflicting policies in the system at the same time.
8. Before posting stuff on the forum understand that nobody give a f*ck and probably won't even read your post unless it is the OP, the first couple of replies and maybe the last reply.
9. Be ready for setbacks in your plans and have an excuse ready.
10. Before lying about some fact, try to think ahead about how your enemy may use it against you later.
11. Remember the lies you have told, otherwise someone else will read them back to you at the most inappropriate moment.
12. Keep your publically stated goals vague so that you can change them later as the situation dictates.
13. Have a timetable to end the campaign (you don't have to tell the enemy). Just plugging on until your friends and allies are burnt out and desert you is the worst outcome you can engineer.
14. Only a c*nt rage quits after 12 days and abandons the people he brought into the campaign.
15. But don't worry, if the worst comes to the worst, there is always WoW. CTRL-Q - Minmatar FW - Low Sec PvP - Euro TZ - New Player Friendly Contact: Major Trant In game channel: FeO Public Recruitment thread: CTRL-Q |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
853
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:09:00 -
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How many home systems have you and your corporation invaded and took? Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
853
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:10:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:How many home systems have you and your corporation invaded and took?
And how many did you lose?
Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Major Trant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
888
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:11:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:How many home systems have you and your corporation invaded and took? Ah! Good question, please sign this post please: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=361702 CTRL-Q - Minmatar FW - Low Sec PvP - Euro TZ - New Player Friendly Contact: Major Trant In game channel: FeO Public Recruitment thread: CTRL-Q |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
853
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:13:00 -
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So in other words...none...yet your giving out advice like an expert? Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Major Trant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
888
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:15:00 -
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Dude, see point 2. CTRL-Q - Minmatar FW - Low Sec PvP - Euro TZ - New Player Friendly Contact: Major Trant In game channel: FeO Public Recruitment thread: CTRL-Q |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
853
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:17:00 -
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Remind the forum please why are you in Huola again? Liaison Officer -->Check Out Amarrian Vengeance History https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=352629&find=unread
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Major Trant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
888
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Posted - 2014.07.29 21:18:00 -
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Nice system, manufacturing available, good links to high sec and a good market hubs, friends... CTRL-Q - Minmatar FW - Low Sec PvP - Euro TZ - New Player Friendly Contact: Major Trant In game channel: FeO Public Recruitment thread: CTRL-Q |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
260
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:02:00 -
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Nice starter guide! +1 BLFOX is currently recruiting |
greg01
Inglorious-Basterds
32
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Posted - 2014.07.29 22:19:00 -
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That's CalMil fooked. Every last alt for himself.... |
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Perkin Warbeck
Black Watch Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
180
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Posted - 2014.07.29 23:35:00 -
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Major Trant wrote:Nice system, manufacturing available, good links to high sec and a good market hub, friends...
WTS: Low sec carebear with good sh*t posting skills. Can fly carrier to evacuate system at a moments notice when needed. Clean corp history. Currently a member of an alliance that was relevant once (awaiting independent verification). Looking for any reasonable offer. Will throw in a free booster and Falcon alt to sweeten the deal. |
Merely Runaway
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
47
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:48:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote: WTS: Low sec carebear with good sh*t posting skills. Can fly carrier to evacuate system at a moments notice when needed. Clean corp history. Currently a member of an alliance that was relevant once (awaiting independent verification). Looking for any reasonable offer. Will throw in a free booster and Falcon alt to sweeten the deal.
If you want to sell your CVA char you're posting in the wrong thread |
Rahelis
Space-Brewery-Association 24eme Legion Etrangere
92
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Posted - 2014.07.30 07:57:00 -
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Trent - like Lori - you sound so very weak - and you admit to it.
I like your tactica - Tactica Trent - but point zero should be: Accomplish something yourself!
If you understand what RL special forces do (bleeding) then start thinking about acting like that. They do not brag - and they all know they will die, because leadership does not care about them and regards them as ammunition.
So being an internet special force make you even better than in RL - you can not die.
I really like how upset you still are - feeling weak makes ppl upset.
That alone is worth all the effort we put into breaking your guys - 07 |
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
36
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Posted - 2014.07.30 10:08:00 -
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+1 nice post! :) Just Add Water |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.07.30 10:14:00 -
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Rahelis wrote:Trent - like Lori - you sound so very weak - and you admit to it.
I like your tactica - Tactica Trent - but point zero should be: Accomplish something yourself!
If you understand what RL special forces do (bleeding) then start thinking about acting like that. They do not brag - and they all know they will die, because leadership does not care about them and regards them as ammunition.
So being an internet special force make you even better than in RL - you can not die.
I really like how upset you still are - feeling weak makes ppl upset.
That alone is worth all the effort we put into breaking your guys - 07
Rehelis kinda reminds me of those japanese soldiers isolated on remote islands that still thought the war was on decades later, lol.
Ease up bro, you lost. |
Major Trant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
895
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Posted - 2014.07.30 10:39:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:Major Trant wrote:Nice system, manufacturing available, good links to high sec and a good market hub, friends... WTS: Low sec carebear with good sh*t posting skills. Can fly carrier to evacuate system at a moments notice when needed. Clean corp history. Currently a member of an alliance that was relevant once (awaiting independent verification). Looking for any reasonable offer. Will throw in a free booster and Falcon alt to sweeten the deal. Dude! I would have loved to have been more actively involved with the defense of Huola. But we were on Tier 4, I could make 75K LP per mission and I could run 30 missions a night. I play this game for my enjoyment, not to make 'content' for others.
That doesn't mean I didn't know what was going on. I do have some communication skills and talked with people who were involved and I did manage to wh*re on a few kills inbetween missions. CTRL-Q - Minmatar FW - Low Sec PvP - Euro TZ - New Player Friendly Contact: Major Trant In game channel: FeO Public Recruitment thread: CTRL-Q |
David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
177
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:19:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:How many home systems have you and your corporation invaded and took?
Exclusive insight into top level FEO directorate board room!!!!:
Dear FEO Directors
I propose that we make an assault on either Kamela or Vard. I feel that we should check the pulse of the Amarr and try and stimulate some gud fites in the process. This would have to be a cross alliance effort with agreement for support from all alliance fcs for a week long effort.
I would propose an assault commencing the week of the 28th January with flipping timetabled for the weekend. Please vote for yes/no Kamela/Vard
I posted this in 2013. Kamela was chosen and it fell by the 1st of Feb. The system push 'for content' is nothing new. Sadly since this push there has been little appetite on our part for a plexing offensive. We generally have lives and such activities tend to prove a hinderance to appropriate social functioning.
In other news, the above post proves that I was once relevant. Players used to abuse me in local. Now it's all "Lory you douche" and "STFU Major". I get so jealous. |
Merely Runaway
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
47
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:42:00 -
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David Devant wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:How many home systems have you and your corporation invaded and took? Exclusive insight into top level FEO directorate board room!!!!: Dear FEO Directors
I propose that we make an assault on either Kamela or Vard. I feel that we should check the pulse of the Amarr and try and stimulate some gud fites in the process. This would have to be a cross alliance effort with agreement for support from all alliance fcs for a week long effort.
I would propose an assault commencing the week of the 28th January with flipping timetabled for the weekend. Please vote for yes/no Kamela/VardI posted this in 2013. Kamela was chosen and it fell by the 1st of Feb. The system push 'for content' is nothing new. Sadly since this push there has been little appetite on our part for a plexing offensive. We generally have lives and such activities tend to prove a hinderance to appropriate social functioning. In other news, the above post proves that I was once relevant. Players used to abuse me in local. Now it's all "Lory you douche" and "STFU Major". I get so jealous. Also, video footage of an FEO meeting... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMV59-CBGrI |
David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
177
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Posted - 2014.07.30 11:58:00 -
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Confirming that penguins are in charge of the FEO plane wreck :D |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
28
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Posted - 2014.07.30 13:25:00 -
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FWEDDIT have chickens, LNA had puffins and yes we have penguins....penguins with warp core stabs : ) |
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Pinky Feldman
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
740
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Posted - 2014.08.01 06:04:00 -
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Major Trant wrote:Dude, see point 2.
So what you're saying is that you would rather the Amarr employ the same tactics we used for Dal and Arzad and either go for a month long grindfest until the hammer is dropped, instead of what resulted in a 3 week long Burn Huola ship slaughter?
We never really intended to headshot Huola and the campaign was greenlighted in less time than the 7 days before Burn Okkamon was even announced. The reason it got so high so fast is because based on posts from the Burn Huola thread, it caught you guys off guard. You can't deny that both sides were pretty inactive going into the campaign and we needed to turn on the hype machine to get our nerds to log-in and didn't really care to much about the mobilization on your side since we knew you guys were inactive and wanted a strong opponent to fight.
David Devant wrote:I posted this in 2013. Kamela was chosen and it fell by the 1st of Feb. The system push 'for content' is nothing new. Sadly since this push there has been little appetite on our part for a plexing offensive. We generally have lives and such activities tend to prove a hinderance to appropriate social functioning. In other news, the above post proves that I was once relevant. Players used to abuse me in local. Now it's all "Lory you douche" and "STFU Major". I get so jealous.
Oh stahp. You're making me nostalgic for the 2012 days. Thanks for bringing it. I truly mean that. I'm glad that we're still able to find ways to make spaceships explode despite still being semi-burnt out from the old days or realizing that having lives is cooler than video game addiction, whatever you want to call it.
Anyways, I really don't care if you label this as propaganda or not, because it's not. I don't play enough these days to have any vested interest in those things. Still, I do genuinely wonder if one day after a failed or successful system push we'll be able to post our side's perspective without the enemy crying either "omg the tears they're delicious!/what sore winners" or flying accusations of an attempt to rewrite history. Probably not though, I mean...mankind has been doing this for centuries well before they even had electricity for computer games. Gf
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
195
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Posted - 2014.08.01 06:51:00 -
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Ask White Lotus lol.
Another minmatar butthurt post to troll.
This has potential to be better than burn huola - minmatar perspective. Keep posting http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.08.01 09:19:00 -
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GF :) |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
265
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Posted - 2014.08.01 17:44:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote: less time than the 7 days before Burn Okkamon was even announced. T
You do realize the Burn Okkamon thread didn't go up until it was over, right? BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
229
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Posted - 2014.08.01 17:53:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote: We never really intended to headshot Huola f
Does anyone believe this anymore? |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
30
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Posted - 2014.08.01 19:29:00 -
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Luwc wrote:Ask White Lotus lol.
Another minmatar butthurt post to troll.
This has potential to be better than burn huola - minmatar perspective. Keep posting
Ask away...we still have ties with I-NET who are active and independent Minmatar Corp and Hoplites are with Iron Oxide. Those being the only two active corps in WL; as we said at the time we have not vanished simply gone seperate ways.
At least 8 Hoplites pilots received medals for thier involvement in the campaign - it's simply a shame you attacked in our quiet season so more if us couldn't smash you. White Lotus may be no more as an alliance but it's pilots are still here ready to kill AWOXing traitors. Attacked any Amarr POSes yet?
It's standing at 2 - 0 to Losematar and we are always ready for round three... |
Pinky Feldman
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
742
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Posted - 2014.08.02 00:08:00 -
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Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote: We never really intended to headshot Huola f
Does anyone believe this anymore?
Not sure if you're trolling or not. Just throwing this out there, but repeating that makes you guys look silly and makes us scratch our heads. If people on the Amarr side, such as Winmatar or line members that don't really know what they're doing went with it and decided to smack about it being a headshot or vocally wishing it was a headshot that's on them, but from a leadership and behind the scenes standpoint, it was definitely not planned as such and everything leading up to it says otherwise.
Don't get me wrong, trying to label something as a headshot that clearly isn't is great propaganda since then you can label everything they did as the exact opposite of what they did, but everything I have said thus far and everything on the front page of the post Trant linked is consistent with it not being a headshot.
"I hope this will not be a Blitzkrieg - I want a Stalingrad!" - Rahelis the day of the siege
Likewise you have Templar Dane's opening post, which mentions absolutely nothing about a headshot except for looking forward to good fights, losing ships, and having fun with a goal of system control.
I get the fact that us FW nerds want to have :narratives: like the nullsec guys, but my advice to you is to the Min/Gals as winners is to focus on their own stories rather than attempt to make one up for the other side.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
229
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Posted - 2014.08.02 04:59:00 -
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From what I saw from the first 2 pages of the Burn Huola thread, the amount you guys were plexing it up by before people reacted, the time that you started it, and some other factors it all seemed like you guys were just going for the win... and hoping Minmatar would show up once or twice. |
Merely Runaway
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
51
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Posted - 2014.08.02 07:01:00 -
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Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:From what I saw from the first 2 pages of the Burn Huola thread, the amount you guys were plexing it up by before people reacted, the time that you started it, and some other factors it all seemed like you guys were just going for the win... and hoping Minmatar would show up once or twice. +1 this even without anyone talking about a "headshot"
Also, if it wasn't a serious attempt to take Huola then why did AVNG implode?
There really is no shame in going for the win and failing so I'm not sure why you're denying something that looks pretty obvious. We in feo have loved the fights and the high stakes of potentially losing our system. By belittling your own objectives you weaken yourselves in the eyes of others. I can't talk for other alliances but the fact is that after the loss of Arzad feo were always going to fight harder and longer, pulling out all the stops and calling All The Friends. The opportunity to punish Winmatar again for awoxing their own militia was another huge factor in steeling our resolve. There is no shame in losing against a hardened and determined enemy. It makes you look good it makes us look good. If you really only wanted Rousch then you look like idiots for putting all your resources into Huola and fighting for three weeks solid 23/7. In eve terms that's a very long time to fight so intensely for something you didn't really want to capture. So quit with the nonsense about not wanting Huola anyway. It makes you look weak and stupid at best. We fought toe to toe for three weeks. You fought well and had a good plan that didn't come off against an enemy more determined not to lose. Don't take that away from yourselves. |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
148
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Posted - 2014.08.02 07:13:00 -
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So much butthurt here from both sides. Changing facts on what happend to calm their hurt ego's? If u look up my post in Major Trant's perspective you'll read our standpoint.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=361536&p=2
Now move on, you all suck. Lets pvp.
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