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BrutalButUnfair
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:33:00 -
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sad to see smartness is being punished. Like it Always is.. oh wait. |
Paranoid Loyd
1064
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:34:00 -
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BrutalButUnfair wrote:smartness
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10838
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:35:00 -
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Known exploit. Obviously unintended game mechanics. He did it anyway. Ban well deserved. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
Never Night
240
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:37:00 -
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#rollfacekeyboardrage
How many more of these today? I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5742
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:38:00 -
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It's almost like that time we made trillions of FW LP using the same mechanic. Oh wait, it's exactly the same as that time. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Ammzi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
1813
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:43:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:It's almost like that time we made trillions of FW LP using the same mechanic. Oh wait, it's exactly the same as that time.
> didn't generate lp > didn't manipulate prices > bounty payout, not FW payout
"it's the exact same thing guys" |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5747
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:50:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:It's almost like that time we made trillions of FW LP using the same mechanic. Oh wait, it's exactly the same as that time. > didn't generate lp > didn't manipulate prices > bounty payout, not FW payout "it's the exact same thing guys"
Tell me, what is the difference between manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money, & manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money? This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
BrutalButUnfair
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:51:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:It's almost like that time we made trillions of FW LP using the same mechanic. Oh wait, it's exactly the same as that time. > didn't generate lp > didn't manipulate prices > bounty payout, not FW payout "it's the exact same thing guys"
yeah goon be soooo smart |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
672
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:52:00 -
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Just think of all those bounty paid off notices CCP is going to have to rescind.
CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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Ammzi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
1815
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:53:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ammzi wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:It's almost like that time we made trillions of FW LP using the same mechanic. Oh wait, it's exactly the same as that time. > didn't generate lp > didn't manipulate prices > bounty payout, not FW payout "it's the exact same thing guys" Tell me, what is the difference between manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money, & manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money?
Can you tell me the difference between the color red and the color red, first? |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10846
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:55:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ammzi wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:It's almost like that time we made trillions of FW LP using the same mechanic. Oh wait, it's exactly the same as that time. > didn't generate lp > didn't manipulate prices > bounty payout, not FW payout "it's the exact same thing guys" Tell me, what is the difference between manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money, & manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money? THAT WUN EXPLOIT THIS WUN AMINSPACE No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
GeeShizzle MacCloud
463
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:56:00 -
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afaik goons pointed out their market/FW manipulation to CCP Devs who didnt really do much about it so they decided to go with the manipulation to prove a point... i dont think wheniaminspace did that did he?
nope, thought not. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
1947
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Posted - 2014.07.30 21:59:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ammzi wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:It's almost like that time we made trillions of FW LP using the same mechanic. Oh wait, it's exactly the same as that time. > didn't generate lp > didn't manipulate prices > bounty payout, not FW payout "it's the exact same thing guys" Tell me, what is the difference between manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money, & manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money?
Well for one thing, it didn't generate LP/isk out of thin air. It simply took existing isk that was generated through conventional means and transferred it into someone elses hands. Secondly, the individual in question didn't manipulate any prices at all. CCP did. Space just used the new prices/market point which was set or "manipulated" by CCP.
So if anything, ban the price manipulator. They're more at fault here than space is. Ban CCP. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
4328
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:00:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ammzi wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:It's almost like that time we made trillions of FW LP using the same mechanic. Oh wait, it's exactly the same as that time. > didn't generate lp > didn't manipulate prices > bounty payout, not FW payout "it's the exact same thing guys" Tell me, what is the difference between manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money, & manipulating the estimated price of items to blow them up for money? White hat security researcher vs. black hat security researcher.
Edit: GeeShizzle said it better than I did. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3957
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:01:00 -
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Pasta tears, best tears. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
1947
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:05:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Pasta tears, best tears. And this right here sums up the actuality of every cfc post on the topic.
When one of your own did it, the response from your membership was, and I quote:
Quote:Snubbing the issue simply because this person was an exploiter is to ignore the major underlying proposition: CCP has banned someone for using their intelligence to gain an edge in the game. This is unsettling, I certainly hope I am not banned for out-maneuvering a bunch of reds in a fleet engagement.
CFC hypocrisy best hypocrisy. Still, your mad at pasta is p funny. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4201
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:06:00 -
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I'll give it to him, it was a rather efficient way to get rid of a lot of ISK in the game. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15944
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:08:00 -
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Another new and interesting topic, with never before seen content!
o/ ISDs
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
672
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:09:00 -
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What I don't understand is why a MTU pays out bounty at all. If things in space are eligible for bounty redemption then drones should pay off as well. Do control towers pay bounty?
CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8316
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:11:00 -
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Would like to point out, called it.
I wonder if the "victims" will be getting their rightly earned bounties restored to them? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3957
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:12:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Pasta tears, best tears. And this right here sums up the actuality of every cfc post on the topic. When one of your own did it, the response from your membership was, and I quote: Quote:Snubbing the issue simply because this person was an exploiter is to ignore the major underlying proposition: CCP has banned someone for using their intelligence to gain an edge in the game. This is unsettling, I certainly hope I am not banned for out-maneuvering a bunch of reds in a fleet engagement. CFC hypocrisy best hypocrisy. Still, your mad at pasta is p funny. And again, there was no price manipulation done by space, so it is fundamentally a different "exploit". Yep, that's our response. Primarily because when the FW exploit was done, it wasn't an exploit. At that point CCP had never made a ruling on abusing the average item price, so after weeks of market manipulation, they showed what could be done and reported it to CCP.
Now however it's already clear that abusing it is an exploit, so wheniaminspace should have done it once as a proof of conecpt, then reported it himself to CCP. Instead he chose to try to make billions from an obvious exploit, got caught and suffers the consequences, and pasta are going to cry for a very long time about it.
So yes, pasta tears, best tears.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Crazey Monkey
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
44
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:12:00 -
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GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:afaik goons pointed out their market/FW manipulation to CCP Devs who didnt really do much about it so they decided to go with the manipulation to prove a point... i dont think wheniaminspace did that did he?
nope, thought not. He actually did point it out to CCP and he got the same response the goons got. |
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society Affirmative.
340
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:13:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:What I don't understand is why a MTU pays out bounty at all. If things in space are eligible for bounty redemption then drones should pay off as well. Do control towers pay bounty?
Iirc POS kills do indeed payout corp/alliance bounties. |
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
578
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:13:00 -
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The ISD's would never think of locking a breakthrough in content such as this thread.
. They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
570
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:14:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:What I don't understand is why a MTU pays out bounty at all. If things in space are eligible for bounty redemption then drones should pay off as well. Do control towers pay bounty?
yes they do |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10851
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:15:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Pasta tears, best tears. And this right here sums up the actuality of every cfc post on the topic. When one of your own did it, the response from your membership was, and I quote: Quote:Snubbing the issue simply because this person was an exploiter is to ignore the major underlying proposition: CCP has banned someone for using their intelligence to gain an edge in the game. This is unsettling, I certainly hope I am not banned for out-maneuvering a bunch of reds in a fleet engagement. Random comment on a TMC article is now "our membership". Yeah okay. Depending on the timeline that person was probably in gents, but still some random person in one CFC alliance doesn't speak for all of us. I certainly don't speak for 4S, for Goonswarm, or for the CFC. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8316
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:17:00 -
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Also, LOL.
It's a 21 day, yeesh. They had grounds for a perma and clearly gave him a love tap. I don't know what anyone is crying about. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3289
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Posted - 2014.07.30 22:17:00 -
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Quote:10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties. Thread locked. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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