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SJ Astralana
Syncore
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Posted - 2014.07.31 06:01:00 -
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I'm a large scale battleship producer, so I've been surfing everything I can find on teams. Yesterday, an auction rolled through for a 5% ME battleship team, which I missed by minutes because of RL. I valued it at 2.5bil, and it went for 700mil. @#$%
Today I saw a 4% ME battleship team coming through which I valued at 2bil, picked it up for 500mil. (Snipers suck, but losing to mechanics sucks worse)
Which was the better value? On the surface, maybe the 5% was a bit more expensive, but it's the best BS team in the game. Or is it?
Today, I plugged in my 4% team to find that it's actually a 5.5% team, as it is also a 1.5% ME large class team, and the specialties are additive. The 5% team didn't have an additive ME specialty. A quick survey of all the active teams seems to indicate none of the 5% teams do.
It looks like I just picked up the best BS ME team in the game for a greater than 5:1 return on the price.
Dumb luck.
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Qoi
Exert Force
52
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Posted - 2014.07.31 08:47:00 -
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Yes, you can get up to 7.62% material reduction with teams.
That team you bought is not a 5.5% material reduction team, it's a 5.44% material reduction team.
I hope your 2 billion evaluation was based on somewhat more trustworthy maths.
The formula you probably want to be using is
Quote:max(runs, ceil(round( base_quantity * facility_modifier * team broad modifier * team narrow modifier * (1.0 - me/100) * runs, 2))) If you know what you want to build, my website might be able to help you at http://eve-industry.org/teamscout/?g=27 Furthermore, i respectfully request these forums to be upgraded to support preformatted text. |
SJ Astralana
Syncore
50
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Posted - 2014.07.31 09:35:00 -
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Qoi wrote:I hope your 2 billion evaluation was based on somewhat more trustworthy maths.
When I'm getting 5-7x on my spend, I'm not fussed about .33% of anything. I know my valuations are a ballpark based on future volume being similar to the past, so the first thing I do is slice the hell out of it as a starting point. I've actually been in this area of the game since 2006, so this isn't the first patch I've seen.
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1331
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Posted - 2014.08.02 06:14:00 -
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Wait, people are spending billions of ISK to have a team at their location for a couple of weeks?
You must be doing a LOT of production to make up the cost. Epic Space Cat |
SJ Astralana
Syncore
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Posted - 2014.08.02 07:02:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Wait, people are spending billions of ISK to have a team at their location for a couple of weeks?
You must be doing a LOT of production to make up the cost.
Four weeks, and not quite billions, although a 1bil auction result was recently reported. There's a battlecruiser team I'm going to have to pass on because at .5bil two days before closing it will definitely be above my price.
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CJ Alland
Mighty Industries
4
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Posted - 2014.08.02 11:33:00 -
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I don't plan on using teams.
they're gping to mess witb all of my maths.
Maybe in a few weeks adter looking into them for a bit. |
Damnskippy
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
2
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Posted - 2014.08.03 21:46:00 -
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Qoi wrote:Yes, you can get up to 7.62% material reduction with teams. That team you bought is not a 5.5% material reduction team, it's a 5.44% material reduction team. I hope your 2 billion evaluation was based on somewhat more trustworthy maths. The formula you probably want to be using is Quote:max(runs, ceil(round( base_quantity * facility_modifier * team broad modifier * team narrow modifier * (1.0 - me/100) * runs, 2))) If you know what you want to build, my website might be able to help you at http://eve-industry.org/teamscout/?g=27
Dude, your website is quite useful. Thank you for sharing that.
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Kendra Coldera
Ripoff Industries
18
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Posted - 2014.08.04 01:07:00 -
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CJ Alland wrote:I don't plan on using teams.
they're gping to mess witb all of my maths.
Maybe in a few weeks adter looking into them for a bit.
Ye sadly, but you can just keep the savings for bad times! Like build a mineral stack :D |
CJ Alland
Mighty Industries
4
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Posted - 2014.08.04 06:38:00 -
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thats actually not a a bad idea haha |
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