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Elsy Strominger
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 00:24:54 -
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I can't seem to get the "Costs / Auto add custom item costs on fulfilled buy order" option to work. I've checked the box in preferences, but it doesn't seem to do anything. For example: I just placed a buy order for qty 1 of a particular ship type, and that buy order was fulfilled. It shows up in the "Transactions" history, but it's never added to my Custom Costs list... so when I place a Sell order for that item it shows up as having a 100% margin / 100% profit and throws all the numbers way off... until I go and find it manually in the transaction list, right-click and Add to Custom Costs. It's a pain to do that for every item ever though so it would be wonderful if I could get the auto-add feature working.
On a side note, is there some way to have Evernus automatically calculate Custom Cost for each item based on the *average* of all previously recorded Buy transactions for that item? That would be infinitely more useful I think, because the price that I pay for each item frequently changes continuously over time as buy/sell orders get updated against the competition. What I'm really interested in is "how much did my current stock cost me on average/overall". A good example of this would be if I bought 500 Light Neutron Blaster II's for 200k ISK each, and then later I bought 10 more for 500k ISK each. It wouldn't make sense to change my "cost" for that item to 500k when I paid a lot less for the vast majority of my stock. Make sense?
Anyway, love the program and any suggestions will be very much appreciated. Thanks!
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 06:19:20 -
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Elsy Strominger wrote:I can't seem to get the "Costs / Auto add custom item costs on fulfilled buy order" option to work. I've checked the box in preferences, but it doesn't seem to do anything. For example: I just placed a buy order for qty 1 of a particular ship type, and that buy order was fulfilled. It shows up in the "Transactions" history, but it's never added to my Custom Costs list... so when I place a Sell order for that item it shows up as having a 100% margin / 100% profit and throws all the numbers way off... until I go and find it manually in the transaction list, right-click and Add to Custom Costs. It's a pain to do that for every item ever though so it would be wonderful if I could get the auto-add feature working.
On a side note, is there some way to have Evernus automatically calculate Custom Cost for each item based on the *average* of all previously recorded Buy transactions for that item? That would be infinitely more useful I think, because the price that I pay for each item frequently changes continuously over time as buy/sell orders get updated against the competition. What I'm really interested in is "how much did my current stock cost me on average/overall". A good example of this would be if I bought 500 Light Neutron Blaster II's for 200k ISK each, and then later I bought 10 more for 500k ISK each. It wouldn't make sense to change my "cost" for that item to 500k when I paid a lot less for the vast majority of my stock. Make sense?
Anyway, love the program and any suggestions will be very much appreciated. Thanks!
Actually the cost is computed as you describe, but for some reason it doesn't work for you. Are you using corp or personal orders? Was the buy order visible as active before it became fulfilled? Also, if you select the fulfilled order in the buy orders tab, does the transaction list at the bottom show any transactions?
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Elsy Strominger
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 07:42:10 -
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Pete Butcher wrote: Actually the cost is computed as you describe, but for some reason it doesn't work for you. Are you using corp or personal orders? Was the buy order visible as active before it became fulfilled? Also, if you select the fulfilled order in the buy orders tab, does the transaction list at the bottom show any transactions?
Personal orders only. Buy orders definitely active before being fulfilled. And yep, if I select the fulfilled orders in the buy orders tab, the transaction list shows the transactions. |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 08:42:52 -
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Elsy Strominger wrote:Pete Butcher wrote: Actually the cost is computed as you describe, but for some reason it doesn't work for you. Are you using corp or personal orders? Was the buy order visible as active before it became fulfilled? Also, if you select the fulfilled order in the buy orders tab, does the transaction list at the bottom show any transactions?
Personal orders only. Buy orders definitely active before being fulfilled. And yep, if I select the fulfilled orders in the buy orders tab, the transaction list shows the transactions.
That's very strange then. Are you sure no costs are being filled? For any order or just specific ones? And a standard question - are you absolutely sure the checkbox is checked in the preferences?
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Elsy Strominger
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:06:22 -
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Pete Butcher wrote: That's very strange then. Are you sure no costs are being filled? For any order or just specific ones? And a standard question - are you absolutely sure the checkbox is checked in the preferences?
Edit: another scenario came to mind. Are you using different characters? Maybe cost sharing is disabled in the preferences?
I just double-checked and I definitely have the box checked next to "Auto add custom item costs on fulfilled buy order*" and also the "Share costs between characters" box checked. In fact, here's a screenshot of my preferences screen: http://i.imgur.com/4iMB1rM.png
I am using multiple characters and I have APIs loaded for all, but I really only do my trading buy/sell on one of them. I mean, all of the buy/sell transactions are showing up in the Wallet transaction history correctly, so Evernus knows about them for sure. I've been working around it by going to the "Character Transactions" screen and finding the transaction where I bought a set of items, right-clicking on it and selecting "Add to item costs".
If I don't do that though, nothing *ever* shows up in the "Item Costs" tab and all of my Sell orders show up with 100% margin 100% Profit on the Buy/Sell screen.
As a test I just went to Item Costs and used "Remove All" to wipe the list of costs that I had previously added manually so it's completely blank now. I have a whole bunch of small orders pending so I'll wait until a few of them have fulfilled and see if anything shows up in the Item Costs list. Do I have to wait until the entire order is completed or is a partial transaction enough?
Thanks! Let me know if there's anything you'd like me to try or test. |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 19:27:33 -
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Elsy Strominger wrote:Pete Butcher wrote: That's very strange then. Are you sure no costs are being filled? For any order or just specific ones? And a standard question - are you absolutely sure the checkbox is checked in the preferences?
Edit: another scenario came to mind. Are you using different characters? Maybe cost sharing is disabled in the preferences?
I just double-checked and I definitely have the box checked next to "Auto add custom item costs on fulfilled buy order*" and also the "Share costs between characters" box checked. In fact, here's a screenshot of my preferences screen: http://i.imgur.com/4iMB1rM.png I am using multiple characters and I have APIs loaded for all, but I really only do my trading buy/sell on one of them. I mean, all of the buy/sell transactions are showing up in the Wallet transaction history correctly, so Evernus knows about them for sure. I've been working around it by going to the "Character Transactions" screen and finding the transaction where I bought a set of items, right-clicking on it and selecting "Add to item costs". If I don't do that though, nothing *ever* shows up in the "Item Costs" tab and all of my Sell orders show up with 100% margin 100% Profit on the Buy/Sell screen. As a test I just went to Item Costs and used "Remove All" to wipe the list of costs that I had previously added manually so it's completely blank now. I have a whole bunch of small orders pending so I'll wait until a few of them have fulfilled and see if anything shows up in the Item Costs list. Do I have to wait until the entire order is completed or is a partial transaction enough? Thanks! Let me know if there's anything you'd like me to try or test.
Costs are computed when the whole order gets fulfilled. You can also select multiple transactions and add them to costs with only one click - the result will be a weighted average. Although, I really hope the cost will compute itself as supposed to.
Side note: did you resize the preferences window? Some controls seem a bit squashed.
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Elsy Strominger
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 20:27:32 -
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Pete Butcher wrote: Costs are computed when the whole order gets fulfilled. You can also select multiple transactions and add them to costs with only one click - the result will be a weighted average. Although, I really hope the cost will compute itself as supposed to.
Side note: did you resize the preferences window? Some controls seem a bit squashed.
Cool, I'll wait until a handful of Buy orders get fulfilled and then I'll report back. I have a decent number of 1 item or small quantity orders up at the moment so hopefully a few will complete before too long.
That's great news about being able to select/add multiple transactions in one shot and ended up with a weighted average -- that's awesome, didn't know it would do that. Hopefully we can figure out how I managed to break the automatic thing, but if not that will be a lot better than what I was doing as a workaround.
Also nah I didn't resize the preferences window, that's how it opens by default. I can resize it after it opens to make it taller and it unsquashes the controls, but if I close it and reopen it again it just goes back to the squashed default. I'm running Evernus on my laptop which has a 1600x900 resolution screen, if that makes any difference. |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.15 11:04:56 -
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Elsy Strominger wrote:Pete Butcher wrote: Costs are computed when the whole order gets fulfilled. You can also select multiple transactions and add them to costs with only one click - the result will be a weighted average. Although, I really hope the cost will compute itself as supposed to.
Side note: did you resize the preferences window? Some controls seem a bit squashed.
Cool, I'll wait until a handful of Buy orders get fulfilled and then I'll report back. I have a decent number of 1 item or small quantity orders up at the moment so hopefully a few will complete before too long. That's great news about being able to select/add multiple transactions in one shot and ended up with a weighted average -- that's awesome, didn't know it would do that. Hopefully we can figure out how I managed to break the automatic thing, but if not that will be a lot better than what I was doing as a workaround. Also nah I didn't resize the preferences window, that's how it opens by default. I can resize it after it opens to make it taller and it unsquashes the controls, but if I close it and reopen it again it just goes back to the squashed default. I'm running Evernus on my laptop which has a 1600x900 resolution screen, if that makes any difference.
I found a scenario when the costs were not automatically computed - a case when the orders were really old.
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.18 18:38:19 -
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With new EVE update, a new version arrived:
- [fixed] internal CREST fixes (if you get auth errors in previous versions, update to this one; if not GÇô blame CCP for crap input validation)
- [fixed] totals computation in transactions
- [fixed] potential error in auto cost computation
- [changed] aligned prices right in certain places
- [changed] Tiamat database
OSX version will be available later today or early tomorrow.
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.19 07:03:23 -
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OS X version is now available.
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Aribeth Thiesant
Fluffy Inquisition
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Posted - 2015.02.24 14:17:09 -
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It would be extremely useful to be able to add a small note or comment to character and corporation buy/sell orders.
When a corporation has lots of things to sell, it can turn into a mess and hard to track what was for what fleet etc. So being able to add a small note would allow a player to know what was sold for what purpose.
I understand that orders have id's so you can do it from your end in the app? |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.24 15:07:05 -
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Aribeth Thiesant wrote:It would be extremely useful to be able to add a small note or comment to character and corporation buy/sell orders.
When a corporation has lots of things to sell, it can turn into a mess and hard to track what was for what fleet etc. So being able to add a small note would allow a player to know what was sold for what purpose.
I understand that orders have id's so you can do it from your end in the app?
Adding notes shouldn't be a problem.
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Aribeth Thiesant
Fluffy Inquisition
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Posted - 2015.02.24 15:22:44 -
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A small custom label (for example "MF-2015.2.24" or "Orca fund") that would show up in it's own column in the table and be sortable. Filterable would be even better. |
Ellie Frog
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.25 19:50:21 -
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Would like to test it but cannot download it because my DNS server thinks the hoster is not trustworthy... |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.25 20:03:57 -
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Ellie Frog wrote:Would like to test it but cannot download it because my DNS server thinks the hoster is not trustworthy...
You mean Bitbucket? It's the second largest source hosting and I can assure you it's safe. It uses Amazon cloud for hosting files in fact, so you can't get more trustworthy than that.
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Ellie Frog
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.25 21:42:39 -
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I don't know what the problem was, after restarting Firefox, I can download it without any trouble. Virus scan shows it's clean. Definitely not your fault! o/ |
Jack Rockafeller
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:10:30 -
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Can someone explain me what the "Scan" in the "Character Active Orders" actually does? |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.01 08:50:19 -
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Jack Rockafeller wrote:Can someone explain me what the "Scan" in the "Character Active Orders" actually does?
It's a remnant of a time when there was no CREST and real-time data involved cache scraping. I will remove scanning in the future, as it serves no purpose now.
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Ellie Frog
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.02 21:06:30 -
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Hello Pete,
thank you for this awesome tool. Makes trading much more fun!
I have experienced some problems with the "Limit to current Station" checkbox.
Situation:
BuyOrder1 for ItemX in StationA, RegionA: 600 ISK BuyOrder2 for ItemX in StationB, RegionB: 550 ISK
I'm sitting in StationB in RegionB and check my buy orders, using the "Character Overbid Orders" IGB link.
BestBuy in StationB, RegionB is 553 ISK, therefore better than my BuyOrder2 (550 ISK) but still cheaper than my BuyOrder1 from a different Region (RegionA, 600 ISK).
The "Character Overbid Orders" Tab don't shows the order! Maybe the program is mixing up the stations and prices?
Another thing is just a question: What is the "Margin" row in "Character Orders > Sell" Tab for? It shows always 100% for all of my orders. |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.03 05:01:39 -
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Margin is your profit margin calculated from item cost. With no cost present it shows 100%.
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Been Kownter
Bridgewater Associates
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Posted - 2015.03.04 12:26:13 -
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It would be useful if the margin was automatically calculated, I wont be bothered to enter each price of an item as I buy it, and then update it and I stay competitive with my buy orders.
I understand it could be considered difficult or complex to have a consistently accurate profit margin but this could be solved by using an estimated number going off the trader's highest completed buy order and the price of the trader's current sell order. As the quantity bought at the highest completed buy price gets sold off the margin is recalculated using the next highest buy price recorded. As that quantity is sold off, another recalculation and so on. Thus keeping the estimate most accurate according to the actual profit margins of your recent trade activity.
These profit margins are constantly changing anyway, i can't imaging it would be difficult to pull from the transaction logs to complete these calculations
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.04 12:32:51 -
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Been Kownter wrote: It would be useful if the margin was automatically calculated, I wont be bothered to enter each price of an item as I buy it, and then update it and I stay competitive with my buy orders.
I understand it could be considered difficult or complex to have a consistently accurate profit margin but this could be solved by using an estimated number going off the trader's highest completed buy order and the price of the trader's current sell order. As the quantity bought at the highest completed buy price gets sold off the margin is recalculated using the next highest buy price recorded. As that quantity is sold off, another recalculation and so on. Thus keeping the estimate most accurate according to the actual profit margins of your recent trade activity.
These profit margins are constantly changing anyway, i can't imaging it would be difficult to pull from the transaction logs to complete these calculations
Actually the margin is updated automatically. Each time you import new data, either through crest, margin tool, api or logs, everything gets recalculated. If you enable automatic setting of item costs on buy order fulfillment, you're custom costs will also be updated.
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Been Kownter
Bridgewater Associates
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Posted - 2015.03.04 13:09:44 -
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I assumed that's what that option did but I just double checked that had I the box check as I thought I did. I do, and the margins stay at 100% anyway, any idea what is happening and why they are not calculating?
edit: I am referring to the margin column of the sell orders, margins of the buy orders are working |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.04 13:37:25 -
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Been Kownter wrote:I assumed that's what that option did but I just double checked that had I the box check as I thought I did. I do, and the margins stay at 100% anyway, any idea what is happening and why they are not calculating?
edit: I am referring to the margin column of the sell orders, margins of the buy orders are working
There could be some explanations:
- There was no buy order returned by the api.
- The checkbox was not checked when the order got fulfilled.
You can make a test and try it on a new order.
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Sclera
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:50:12 -
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At the moment i have 75 orders in Jita, is it normal that it takes about 15 minutes just to save the prices to the database after they got imported from CREST? I got stuck on "Saving 59670 imported orders" for 16 minutes, to me it feels super slow while with cache scraping everything was done instantly. Anything I can do to speed up the process? By the time my orders are imported the prices are already out of date... |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 12:20:02 -
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Sclera wrote:At the moment i have 75 orders in Jita, is it normal that it takes about 15 minutes just to save the prices to the database after they got imported from CREST? I got stuck on "Saving 59670 imported orders" for 16 minutes, to me it feels super slow while with cache scraping everything was done instantly. Anything I can do to speed up the process? By the time my orders are imported the prices are already out of date...
I just tested on an old hdd and saving speed was about 10k per minute (Kubuntu, ext4). On a ssd about 20k gets saved in 10-20s (don't have access atm to give exact).
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:33:10 -
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Just measured: 14s for ~18k orders in debug build on SSD. In a release build things would be much faster. A HDD issue perhaps?
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Been Kownter
Bridgewater Associates
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Posted - 2015.03.06 13:35:24 -
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Is there an in-game channel or some way I could chat with you regarding my issue? |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.06 14:07:45 -
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Been Kownter wrote:Is there an in-game channel or some way I could chat with you regarding my issue?
You can use mail, twitter or simply convo me or I can convo you.
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.08 16:08:25 -
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A new version is here:
- [new] notes in market orders
- [new] market analysis trend line
- [new] wallet and journal summaries in statistics
- [fixed] some error messages were silently discarded
- [fixed] initial contract filtering
- [fixed] applying price delta to buy prices from custom sources in margin tool
- [fixed] workaround for invalid issue date in market logs
- [changed] removed market scan from IGB
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