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Tonic Baywater
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.08 13:52:59 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Tonic Baywater wrote:"So we know the problem. Red icon indicates error. If you don't see any text, try resizing the window until it appears. "
- Correct. I can't seem to get the window to stop loading, so i can't copy and paste all the error reports. - Basically they are bad gatecode issues.
"You can select multiple regions to import and just filter the desired one later, hence the double region selects."
-So you mean its checking between both regions? Which region selection (analysis tab, or import data window) is the primary search? Bad gateway means the CREST server couldn't handle such load. It's a bit of a **** up on ccp part. Reduce the number of threads in the preferences.
so whats the solution on how to get this tab to work? i have it narrowed down to only one region (the forge) and two item types... ill give it a go when i get to my pc to try it in heimatars so there wont be as many data points as from jita. |
Tonic Baywater
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.08 13:56:14 -
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A side question: How come sometimes when I import the market data, the margin tool fills in both the buy and sell data -showing the margin like its supposed to- but other times its only the sell data or buy data it captures? |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
293
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Posted - 2015.06.08 15:11:35 -
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Tonic Baywater wrote:Pete Butcher wrote:Tonic Baywater wrote:"So we know the problem. Red icon indicates error. If you don't see any text, try resizing the window until it appears. "
- Correct. I can't seem to get the window to stop loading, so i can't copy and paste all the error reports. - Basically they are bad gatecode issues.
"You can select multiple regions to import and just filter the desired one later, hence the double region selects."
-So you mean its checking between both regions? Which region selection (analysis tab, or import data window) is the primary search? Bad gateway means the CREST server couldn't handle such load. It's a bit of a **** up on ccp part. Reduce the number of threads in the preferences. so whats the solution on how to get this tab to work? i have it narrowed down to only one region (the forge) and two item types... ill give it a go when i get to my pc to try it in heimatars so there wont be as many data points as from jita.
Go to the preferences and reduce CREST thread count until it works.
Quote:A side question: How come sometimes when I import the market data, the margin tool fills in both the buy and sell data -showing the margin like its supposed to- but other times its only the sell data or buy data it captures?
Maybe there are no buy/sell orders for that station.
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Tonic Baywater
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.08 15:37:24 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Go to the preferences and reduce CREST thread count until it works. Awesome! :)
Pete Butcher wrote:A side question: How come sometimes when I import the market data, the margin tool fills in both the buy and sell data -showing the margin like its supposed to- but other times its only the sell data or buy data it captures?
Maybe there are no buy/sell orders for that station. Was noticed this weekend at jita. i changed the station to jita in the advanced tab, but still had this problem.
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.08 15:44:13 -
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Tonic Baywater wrote:Pete Butcher wrote:A side question: How come sometimes when I import the market data, the margin tool fills in both the buy and sell data -showing the margin like its supposed to- but other times its only the sell data or buy data it captures?
Maybe there are no buy/sell orders for that station. Was noticed this weekend at jita. i changed the station to jita in the advanced tab, but still had this problem.
If you are sure there's a problem, send me a screenshot.
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Tonic Baywater
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.08 16:02:06 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Tonic Baywater wrote:Pete Butcher wrote:A side question: How come sometimes when I import the market data, the margin tool fills in both the buy and sell data -showing the margin like its supposed to- but other times its only the sell data or buy data it captures?
Maybe there are no buy/sell orders for that station. Was noticed this weekend at jita. i changed the station to jita in the advanced tab, but still had this problem. If you are sure there's a problem, send me a screenshot.
I think its a problem more with the customer than the developer or program. i just dont know the correct settings (havent found any tabs for preferances that the help refers to). - ill try sending images asap |
Tonic Baywater
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.08 17:44:04 -
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Here we go. Shows my set up and what I'm getting
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1e8NEQz2WSMfkc0U1NaMTFOQ1JxSXY4YTA3M0NSV1hacXRkY1BON0NtQTZORkhIYUpkOVE&usp=sharing |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
293
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Posted - 2015.06.08 18:46:42 -
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Turn off alternative import method and see if it helps.
EDIT: Also make sure you have imported orders for Jita (so the buy value gets updated when using custom station) and make sure there are sell orders in the current station.
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Varus Sakura
Jump Drive Appreciation Society Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.06.18 02:38:31 -
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Hi Pete,
I've managed to compile and install Evernus on Linux Mint 17 using Qt5.4.
When I attempt to run the program, I receive the following error in the terminal:
evernus: symbol lookup error: evernus: undefined symbol: _ZN6QDebugD1Ev
Any idea what could be up? |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
293
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Posted - 2015.06.18 05:52:31 -
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Varus Sakura wrote:Hi Pete,
I've managed to compile and install Evernus on Linux Mint 17 using Qt5.4.
When I attempt to run the program, I receive the following error in the terminal:
evernus: symbol lookup error: evernus: undefined symbol: _ZN6QDebugD1Ev
Any idea what could be up?
Interesting, your dynamic linker cannot find the destructor of QDebug. What Qt version are you linking against?
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Avengor Scorsese
Sleeper Slumber Party Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:57:49 -
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Hi Pete. I am just diving into Evernus and really trying to learn the ins and outs of the software.
One thing that bothers me is that the format of the numbers is "ISKXXXX". Is there a way to remove the ISK from the sell/buy prices? I'm sure this is just a formatting thing but there didn't seem to be an option in the Preferences menu.
Thanks for the great tool! |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
294
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Posted - 2015.06.25 04:04:25 -
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Avengor Scorsese wrote:Hi Pete. I am just diving into Evernus and really trying to learn the ins and outs of the software.
One thing that bothers me is that the format of the numbers is "ISKXXXX". Is there a way to remove the ISK from the sell/buy prices? I'm sure this is just a formatting thing but there didn't seem to be an option in the Preferences menu.
Thanks for the great tool!
There is an option for it in the preferences (general, if I remember correctly).
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Avengor Scorsese
Sleeper Slumber Party Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.06.25 12:17:49 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Avengor Scorsese wrote:Hi Pete. I am just diving into Evernus and really trying to learn the ins and outs of the software.
One thing that bothers me is that the format of the numbers is "ISKXXXX". Is there a way to remove the ISK from the sell/buy prices? I'm sure this is just a formatting thing but there didn't seem to be an option in the Preferences menu.
Thanks for the great tool! There is an option for it in the preferences (general, if I remember correctly).
It was a checkbox, Omit Currency Symbol. Apparently I am blind. Thank you! |
Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
129
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Posted - 2015.06.26 15:34:48 -
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Thank you for the development of this program Pete Butcher, it really is the best one out there. One thing that I miss is the option to minimise the window of the margin tool. |
Vivian Andersson
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:45:07 -
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Last week or so the Crest importing works slow as hell, am i the only one? Before that it took like 20 secs to import like 250 orders... now it takes +2/3 minutes and sometimes it even hangs! |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.01 04:10:58 -
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Vivian Andersson wrote:Last week or so the Crest importing works slow as hell, am i the only one? Before that it took like 20 secs to import like 250 orders... now it takes +2/3 minutes and sometimes it even hangs!
For me it works with the same speed, so it's either your network or you're hitting some very popular proxy.
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Vivian Andersson
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.01 15:02:20 -
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Guess you're right, I've started using a new VPN for Netflix and that could be the problem...
Awesome tool, been using it for several months! Thanks! :) |
Satchu Phaidon
Starcade Group Elemental Tide
6
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Posted - 2015.07.08 20:17:43 -
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This looks like an awesome program, but I'm having a problem. Prices and orders won't update automatically, and there doesn't seem to be a button I can press to import them reliably. |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
294
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Posted - 2015.07.08 20:21:57 -
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Satchu Phaidon wrote:This looks like an awesome program, but I'm having a problem. Prices and orders won't update automatically, and there doesn't seem to be a button I can press to import them reliably.
Prices are not updated automatically. Are there any problems when importing them?
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Satchu Phaidon
Starcade Group Elemental Tide
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Posted - 2015.07.08 21:23:28 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Satchu Phaidon wrote:This looks like an awesome program, but I'm having a problem. Prices and orders won't update automatically, and there doesn't seem to be a button I can press to import them reliably. Prices are not updated automatically. Are there any problems when importing them?
Oh, okay. What does the 'auto-import' feature do? Is that just for character stuff? Sorry if I'm not understanding the program here.
If I 'Import prices from Web' some of them won't reflect the true price on the market, and some of my orders won't update after an API import. The 'old data' warning bar is omnipresent and no amount of importing seems to update things properly. |
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.09 05:27:35 -
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Satchu Phaidon wrote:Oh, okay. What does the 'auto-import' feature do? Is that just for character stuff?
yes
Satchu Phaidon wrote:If I 'Import prices from Web' some of them won't reflect the true price on the market, and some of my orders won't update after an API import. The 'old data' warning bar is omnipresent and no amount of importing seems to update things properly.
Importing from Web means using CREST. If the data doesn't match, contact CCP FoxFour and report a bug. Evernus just uses what CCP gives back. As for "old data" warning, where exactly are they showing up (which tabs)?
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.09 09:07:40 -
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Due to CCP messing up their data export, the next version with the new items will be delayed until they sort things up.
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Elizabet Forgrave
Perkone Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2015.07.19 15:19:27 -
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I've been using this to trade and it's great, thanks for making it. I do however have a small issue and a related suggestion.
The issue is that when there's no competitor price for one of my orders, it says "no price data". This is confusing as it makes it seem like the data didn't import for some reason, but it did, just was ignored as it only contained my order. It also shows me a massive negative price difference. Would it be possible for this to just show as a tick with a price difference of 0, so I know these orders do not need to be updated?
Related to this, when I update my orders I have to wait the hour to update my orders from the API. Would it be possible for an option that when it does the CREST import, it matches my order ID from the data within the program to the order ID returned from CREST and updates my order accordingly? |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
295
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Posted - 2015.07.19 18:23:01 -
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Elizabet Forgrave wrote:I've been using this to trade and it's great, thanks for making it. I do however have a small issue and a related suggestion.
The issue is that when there's no competitor price for one of my orders, it says "no price data". This is confusing as it makes it seem like the data didn't import for some reason, but it did, just was ignored as it only contained my order. It also shows me a massive negative price difference. Would it be possible for this to just show as a tick with a price difference of 0, so I know these orders do not need to be updated?
Actually that's impossible. There's no way to determine the reason for missing data (no import, error, corruption, no competition, manual removal etc.). Therefore the only option is to show no data.
Elizabet Forgrave wrote:Related to this, when I update my orders I have to wait the hour to update my orders from the API. Would it be possible for an option that when it does the CREST import, it matches my order ID from the data within the program to the order ID returned from CREST and updates my order (in evernus, not in EVE) accordingly?
I need to check if crest returns all required data.
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Elizabet Forgrave
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.20 07:43:54 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Elizabet Forgrave wrote:I've been using this to trade and it's great, thanks for making it. I do however have a small issue and a related suggestion.
The issue is that when there's no competitor price for one of my orders, it says "no price data". This is confusing as it makes it seem like the data didn't import for some reason, but it did, just was ignored as it only contained my order. It also shows me a massive negative price difference. Would it be possible for this to just show as a tick with a price difference of 0, so I know these orders do not need to be updated? Actually that's impossible. There's no way to determine the reason for missing data (no import, error, corruption, no competition, manual removal etc.). Therefore the only option is to show no data. Surely there is data though, because there's my order. The problem isn't no data when there's actually no data, it's that it's showing no data when there is only my order being returned.
Pete Butcher wrote:Elizabet Forgrave wrote:Related to this, when I update my orders I have to wait the hour to update my orders from the API. Would it be possible for an option that when it does the CREST import, it matches my order ID from the data within the program to the order ID returned from CREST and updates my order (in evernus, not in EVE) accordingly? I need to check if crest returns all required data. Cool.
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Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
295
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Posted - 2015.07.20 09:47:49 -
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Elizabet Forgrave wrote:[quote=Pete Butcher]Surely there is data though, because there's my order. The problem isn't no data when there's actually no data, it's that it's showing no data when there is only my order being returned.
Your order doesn't give any info about the cause of lack of other data. Was it the only one? Or wasn't others imported? Or were they manually deleted? Or was there some error? Or did the API broke? There's no way to reliably distinguish the cause. In my opinion trying to guess the cause would lead to more confusion than showing "no data".
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Elizabet Forgrave
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.20 19:31:17 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Elizabet Forgrave wrote:[quote=Pete Butcher]Surely there is data though, because there's my order. The problem isn't no data when there's actually no data, it's that it's showing no data when there is only my order being returned.
Your order doesn't give any info about the cause of lack of other data. Was it the only one? Or wasn't others imported? Or were they manually deleted? Or was there some error? Or did the API broke? There's no way to reliably distinguish the cause. In my opinion trying to guess the cause would lead to more confusion than showing "no data". I'm very confused.
Take an example. I have Item A for sale in System X, which is order number 123. I update prices and crest returns this:
Order num : Item : system : quantity : price 123 . . . . . . . .A . . . .X . . . . . . 10 . . . . . 100,000
Why does evernus then show "Price status: No data". Because data was returned, and evernus did parse it. Even now, the data shows in the "market Orders" section at the bottom of the screen with the import time of the last CREST update. CREST returned the one row with no errors, so evernus should then know that to the best of it's knowledge my order is the best priced order, and that there is in fact data. |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
295
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Posted - 2015.07.20 19:41:23 -
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Elizabet Forgrave wrote:Pete Butcher wrote:Elizabet Forgrave wrote:[quote=Pete Butcher]Surely there is data though, because there's my order. The problem isn't no data when there's actually no data, it's that it's showing no data when there is only my order being returned.
Your order doesn't give any info about the cause of lack of other data. Was it the only one? Or wasn't others imported? Or were they manually deleted? Or was there some error? Or did the API broke? There's no way to reliably distinguish the cause. In my opinion trying to guess the cause would lead to more confusion than showing "no data". I'm very confused. Take an example. I have Item A for sale in System X, which is order number 123. I update prices and crest returns this: Order num : Item : system : quantity : price 123 . . . . . . . .A . . . .X . . . . . . 10 . . . . . 100,000 Why does evernus then show "Price status: No data". Because data was returned, and evernus did parse it. Even now, the data shows in the "market Orders" section at the bottom of the screen with the import time of the last CREST update. CREST returned the one row with no errors, so evernus should then know that to the best of it's knowledge my order is the best priced order, and that there is in fact data.
Oh that case is trivial. What I'm talking about is this case: Evernus starts and sees only your order. What should we show to the user? There's no way to know. Your solution works only in one specific case, not in general. We can try to show that there is only one order right after the (successful) import, but it would be pretty confusing on the next run or when someone starts deleting orders. It's always better to show some information than to lie to the user.
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Elizabet Forgrave
Perkone Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2015.07.21 06:53:44 -
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Sorry, but I don't get why it would ever be confusing. If I delete the order, it's not there to have data. If I start up the application, I still have imported data and still have the orders showing in the "market orders" section below. I'd say it's far more confusing now that it's telling me my my order is 100k is below the best on the market when it is in fact the only order on the market, and evernus knows that. The only time it should show "no data" is if you do a crest import and nothing get's returned, or if you've never done a price import (ie, the "market orders section is completely empty). |
Pete Butcher
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
295
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Posted - 2015.07.21 07:26:24 -
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Elizabet Forgrave wrote:Sorry, but I don't get why it would ever be confusing. If I delete the order, it's not there to have data. If I start up the application, I still have imported data and still have the orders showing in the "market orders" section below. I'd say it's far more confusing now that it's telling me my my order is 100k is below the best on the market when it is in fact the only order on the market, and evernus knows that. The only time it should show "no data" is if you do a crest import and nothing get's returned, or if you've never done a price import (ie, the "market orders section is completely empty). This is the simplest way I can put it. See the -4 million price difference? That's just not right.
If you find no data in the database, there is no way to know the reason for it. That's why the "no data" info is there. That's the only information, which can be concluded from such state. It is impossible to track all the possible reasons, since there are both internal and external. In other words - I can give a scenario for every possible solution, which would break it. Therefore, instead of making solutions, which are known to be bad from the start, I decided to tell the truth - there is no data. In this case the "good enough" rule is not good enough, in my opinion. As for the -4M, that indeed shouldn't be there.
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