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Pavel Sohaj
Anoikis Exploration
7
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Posted - 2014.08.04 12:49:00 -
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AssassinationsdoneWrong wrote:Tiberizzle wrote:abloo bloo bloo
i can't pop an interceptor / interdictor out of rage-rolled nullsec connections for absolutely guaranteed zero risk zero skill tackles for my 20 man ishtar gang all day long because now i have to slowboat my archon back to the hole and s-s-someone might g-g-gank me instead
im unsubbing right now life does not go on
ps. consume urine w-space scum guzzlers Spoken like a true Goon (True Goon in this example = average mental age 12, still obsessed with s-*** guzzling etc) The fact that you're truly all scared of WH's is exactly why they shouldn't be changed. Somewhere you guys can never successfully be in eve is a good place and should be left untouched. Experienced WH pilots one to one will generally outsmart, outfly and outpunch the average Goon pilot by 2:1 simply because we have actually got L5 skills in our queue, fly our own ships without pressing orbit, assign and afking to stroke ourselves to pictures of Mittens. The fact that your archons only come in packs of 50's and you all sit there doing nothing is not our fault. Elsewhere crying you perhaps should be hmmmm?
You sir haz win. Funny and 100 % agreeable upon. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15563
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Posted - 2014.08.04 12:50:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:I log off if there is no PVP. That's just me though. lol. yeah and we also know groups like yours poach players who are PVP capable, so who's more guilty of stripping that capability from small wormhole groups. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Papa Django
CosmoTeK LTD La Division Bleue
1
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Posted - 2014.08.04 12:51:00 -
[423] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Good afternoon everyone.
We are indeed working on some changes to how ships spawn when they jump through wormholes. This is one part of a series of wormhole iterations we are working on and that we will be publishing a dev blog on soon. We will be looking for player feedback at that time. The version of the code that is on SISI is absolutely not the final version, and is not running final numbers (the ranges we are working with internally are quite a bit closer than what is on this build of SISI).
We'll be posting a dev blog with the whole collection of proposed changes next week and we will be very interested in taking your feedback then. In the meantime I advise you all to not panic. Nobody is out to get you.
Hope you all have a great weekend.
It starts badly.
The major effect of this tweak is to remove small & mid entities from W-Space
Oh, like in nullsec !
And this is considered by almost everyone to be a big issue.
Less people in W-Space, less fight, big entities will control w-space, ....
Do you realize that nullsec is more boring then HS at that time ?
And do you realize that W-Space is the last place for people like who wants to rule a small territory ?
Collapsing is one of the fundamentals for us.
Give us alliance bookmarks, give us better POS system, this forum is full of good ideas, and stop breaking things that works fine.
Unbelievable |
Jez Amatin
Enso Corp
0
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Posted - 2014.08.04 12:52:00 -
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I'm not terribly impressed with this idea, and my initial response is if it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm not fundamentally opposed to this change (altho, the range is too much at mo...), but at the same time i can see why some of the complaints are being made. I'm more concerned about WH logistics at the mo, if that becomes more tedious than it already is, i think its fair to assume some of the smaller corps will either blob up or leave WH space altogether.
There are a million other things to fix in this game, and having dev(s) screw around with this mechanic comes across as misguided without more background / rationale. Maybe its the effect of looking at the current POS code. Its that bad that you end up finding anything to do other than to fix things that actually need fixing
Also if CCP want people to receive changes in a constructive manner, can i suggest putting up a dev blog before putting it on SISI. At the very least bring it up in forums before hand (as suggested by others). This will help manage the response from the community in a more prepared manner, rather than the current 20 page mixed bag of nerd rage, trolling and occasional balanced comment.
Corbex - good luck with this one, i sense you are going to need it! |
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
66
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Posted - 2014.08.04 12:52:00 -
[425] - Quote
AssassinationsdoneWrong wrote:Tiberizzle wrote:abloo bloo bloo
i can't pop an interceptor / interdictor out of rage-rolled nullsec connections for absolutely guaranteed zero risk zero skill tackles for my 20 man ishtar gang all day long because now i have to slowboat my archon back to the hole and s-s-someone might g-g-gank me instead
im unsubbing right now life does not go on
ps. consume urine w-space scum guzzlers Spoken like a true Goon (True Goon in this example = average mental age 12, still obsessed with s-*** guzzling etc) The fact that you're truly all scared of WH's is exactly why they shouldn't be changed. Somewhere you guys can never successfully be in eve is a good place and should be left untouched. Experienced WH pilots one to one will generally outsmart, outfly and outpunch the average Goon pilot by 2:1 simply because we have actually got L5 skills in our queue, fly our own ships without pressing orbit, assign and afking to stroke ourselves to pictures of Mittens. The fact that your archons only come in packs of 50's and you all sit there doing nothing is not our fault. Elsewhere crying you perhaps should be hmmmm?
Hahaha nice one +1 goon tears in wormhole forums
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Rain6637
Team Evil
15563
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Posted - 2014.08.04 12:53:00 -
[426] - Quote
Neckbeard Nolyfe wrote:Rain6637 wrote:if there's no PVP then make ISK? Stop posting. Thanks, you did everyone a favor. why did you use an NPC character for that? President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1654
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Posted - 2014.08.04 13:08:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Rek Seven wrote:I log off if there is no PVP. That's just me though. lol. yeah and we also know groups like yours poach players who are PVP capable, so who's more guilty of stripping that capability from small wormhole groups.
Again i can't speak for anyone else but our corp doesn't need to poach people. Players come to us because we can offer free POS fuel, SRP and the safety in numbers that small corps can't. +1 |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15564
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Posted - 2014.08.04 13:13:00 -
[428] - Quote
:-D I won't name names President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
742
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Posted - 2014.08.04 13:32:00 -
[429] - Quote
do these wormhole people actually think they're good at pvp |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
546
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Posted - 2014.08.04 13:33:00 -
[430] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote::-D I won't name names
Why aren't you posting as the more attractive Mizhir? Sorry, that hair just isn't doing it for me :<
TrouserDeagle wrote:do these wormhole people actually think they're good at pvp
Does Shadow Cartel actually think they're good at PvP ? If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
547
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Posted - 2014.08.04 13:40:00 -
[431] - Quote
Did anybody listen to Corbexx?
Stop derailing the thread. Ty Yaay!!!! |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
546
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Posted - 2014.08.04 13:44:00 -
[432] - Quote
Phoenix Jones wrote:Stop derailing the thread. Ty
Do you realise where you are?
Complaining about the entire issue is pretty pointless because, as was shown with API, regardless of how much WHs want/don't want a feature, CCP will do what they want. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Bleedingthrough
Raptor Navy
59
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Posted - 2014.08.04 13:53:00 -
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It seems to me that CCP does not have a coherent vision for w-space. You need to communicate that better and ask for feedback on your design goals. Implementing a mechanic without communicating your vision will fail almost every time and upset the community. That said, I canGÇÖt wait for your dev block.
Rek Seven wrote:Again i can't speak for anyone else but our corp doesn't need to poach people. Players come to us because we can offer free POS fuel, SRP and the safety in numbers that small corps can't.
IMO wormholes are heading the way of null sec because of CCP design choices. The small groups can't do anything to hurt the big guys significantly, other than taking part in corp theft (which will go once corp roles are fixed) and thus, people will consolidate into just a few massive alliances.
This is exactly what I fear. I signed up for small fights and an environment that allows us to outsmart others. If CCPs vision is to turn this into a numbers game more than it already is I would be very disappointed. But again I would not be forced to speculate about your intentions if you communicated your vision.
Corbexx is awesome at representing the entire w-space community. Listen to him! If something is not on his wish list then chances are it is terrible.
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Rain6637
Team Evil
15564
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Posted - 2014.08.04 13:53:00 -
[434] - Quote
I wish I was even... half the man she is President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
458
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:00:00 -
[435] - Quote
Oh, I'm sure CCP knows what they're doing. They're not altruistic. They want to please their breadwinners. We all know who they're catering to. /tinfoil Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
550
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:02:00 -
[436] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:I wish I was even... half the man she is
Maybe with time, and a resculpt... If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15564
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:04:00 -
[437] - Quote
i'm not sure that procedure is available
she's going to kill me. (but not really) President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Dark Armata
Bookmark Both Sides Exit Strategy..
112
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:10:00 -
[438] - Quote
Andrew Jester wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Stop derailing the thread. Ty Do you realise where you are? Complaining about the entire issue is pretty pointless because, as was shown with API, regardless of how much WHs want/don't want a feature, CCP will do what they want.
Come on.
The chance of this thread staying on topic after Jester appears is about the same as this change not making it to the live server.
Would be very happy to be proved wrong on this one. W-Space WAS Best Space |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
553
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:11:00 -
[439] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:i'm not sure that procedure is available
she's going to kill me. (but not really)
I've heard biomassing can help with that procedure, but don't quote me on it. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15564
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:12:00 -
[440] - Quote
that is so mean President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
554
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:12:00 -
[441] - Quote
Dark Armata wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Stop derailing the thread. Ty Do you realise where you are? Complaining about the entire issue is pretty pointless because, as was shown with API, regardless of how much WHs want/don't want a feature, CCP will do what they want. Come on. The chance of this thread staying on topic after Jester appears is about the same as this change not making it to the live server. Would be very happy to be proved wrong on this one.
Which one do you want to be proved wrong on))?
Also this is nice:
Dark Armata wrote: W-Space WAS Best Space
Rain6637 wrote:that is so mean
Sometimes the truth hurts :< If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
364
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:16:00 -
[442] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Good afternoon everyone.
We are indeed working on some changes to how ships spawn when they jump through wormholes. This is one part of a series of wormhole iterations we are working on and that we will be publishing a dev blog on soon. We will be looking for player feedback at that time. The version of the code that is on SISI is absolutely not the final version, and is not running final numbers (the ranges we are working with internally are quite a bit closer than what is on this build of SISI).
We'll be posting a dev blog with the whole collection of proposed changes next week and we will be very interested in taking your feedback then. In the meantime I advise you all to not panic. Nobody is out to get you.
Hope you all have a great weekend.
-1. Normally I try to stay pretty positive but this is a turd sand which. Go home CCP you're drunk. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15564
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:18:00 -
[443] - Quote
believe it or not i can look at my skillsheet with a straight face President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
281
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:22:00 -
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CCP:
I'm stunned again by your 'devil may care" programing design style.
Not going to say its a good idea or a bad idea because honestly it wouldn't and hasn't mattered what the players really ask for anyway.
But!
If you apply this change to wormhole exits. Please apply the exact same change to cyno beacons. Fairs fair.
Read more of my ramblings on my blog www.invadingyourhole.blogspot.com |
SpotlessBlade
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
55
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:24:00 -
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Delicious delicious tears
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Rain6637
Team Evil
15564
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:26:00 -
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90 Million SP falcon alt... whatev President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
555
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:29:00 -
[447] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:90 Million SP falcon alt... whatev
Do you even ECM Phoenix you casual?
If you have 90m SP you should be an ECM Wyvern alt If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15564
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:34:00 -
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no i've limited the rains to subcap so I have some hope of a skillsheet that makes sense eventually, by default. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
170
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:35:00 -
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Messing with the ability to roll wormholes is problematic. It is hard enough to find fights as it is.
If you want to make changes to the way wormholes "fling" out stuff jumping through them, maybe you should take the ship mass into account: the lighter the ship is, the further it gets thrown out when u go through a hole.
This will allow people to still properly rageroll but subcaps have more chance to require some slowboating to jump back.
The class of wh should also affect this so that people in lower class space don't constantly get shafted if they try to roll their wh's in battleships ending up 10k off the hole all the time. |
Bleedingthrough
Raptor Navy
64
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Posted - 2014.08.04 14:38:00 -
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Ya Huei wrote:Messing with the ability to roll wormholes is problematic. It is hard enough to find fights as it is.
If you want to make changes to the way wormholes "fling" out stuff jumping through them, maybe you should take the ship mass into account: the lighter the ship is, the further it gets thrown out when u go through a hole.
This will allow people to still properly rageroll but subcaps have more chance to require some slowboating to jump back.
The class of wh should also affect this so that people in lower class space don't constantly get shafted if they try to roll their wh's in battleships ending up 10k off the hole all the time.
This wont work! I don't want to sacrifice our Bubblecrushers to Bob every time we need to roll. |
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