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Manaria
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Posted - 2006.07.10 19:52:00 -
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I am Gallente, use a Brutix, and deal most of my damage via my drones. I have about 2M SP, and if I put about 6 days into training to the last level of Scout Drone Ops, I can buy Hammerhead II Drones.
Given the 6 days of training and the additional cost of each Drone, is it worth it to upgrade from I's to II's?
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Tessa Vaako
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Posted - 2006.07.10 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tessa Vaako on 10/07/2006 19:59:19 If you are doing the majority of your damage via drones, then why is this even a question? HHIIs are BETTER then HHIs they have a better speed, HP and do more damage.
With my skills, I get approx 80 DPS on an unhardened Domi with just 5x HHIs. That jumpes to 105 DPS with 5xHHII. -- The Future is Exciting.
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Manaria
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Posted - 2006.07.10 20:10:00 -
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Cool...I'm convinced...Thanks...time to train up to get those II's! |
Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.07.10 20:43:00 -
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The problem with HH2s is not training or lack of preformance, but the price tag
I have gone back to using T1 Hammerheads because I absolutely refuse to pay 2 mil for a fkn medium drone. Regrettably many people are too rich or too stupid (or too both) so the price will prolly keep on rising :/ --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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MrTripps
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Posted - 2006.07.10 21:30:00 -
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I just started using T2 drones and have changed the way I fight (NPCs) with them. Before I would throw my drones out as soon as I had a target lock and let them take some damage away from me. If one gets blow up it wasn't that big of a deal. With more expensive T2s you don't want your 1.7 mil babies getting touched so you make sure everything is going after you before you let the monkeys fly. In other words you have to learn how to tank.
Also, if you are spending a long time away from a station a small remote armor repair can be handy.
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!" - Salvor Hardin |
Audrea
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Posted - 2006.07.10 22:17:00 -
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I really dont suggest you on training Hammerhead IIs just for mission running (if thats the only use for them you have).
Why? for the reasons stated above, they are way too expensive, and easy to loose (any ctd will make sure of that). Unless of course money is not a problem for you. Dont forget the Gallente Drone Specialization skillbook costs about 12mil alone.
If you really want T2 medium drones and you arent rich, go for Amarr or Minmatar drones (EM and Explosive respectively).
But really - only reason to buy and train those skills is for the T2 heavy drones, or mediums if you doing PVP. surely not for npcing. ------------------ If you are tired of fleet combat lag, post HERE
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Lord Timelord
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:43:00 -
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Q: Should a Gallente Pod Pilot train up T2 Drone Skills?
A: YES!
The extra damage/speed/durability/tracking all WELL worth their high price! Change how you have your 'Overview' displayed so the top 50% shows your 'Selected Item' and objects in your scan range. The bottom 50% should have all your drones organized into named drone battlegroups.
When you launch drones, expand the window so you can watch their damage meters. When one starts to take too much damage, tell it to 'return and orbit', target it, remote repair it, scoop it, then redeploy it.
With proper usage of drones you can become extremely effective at both PvE and PvP. Just like there are Hybrid, Projectile, Laser, and Missile Specialists... you can also be a Drone Specialist!
Train up those Drone skills and you will see what I mean! __________
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Father Weebles
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Posted - 2006.07.13 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar The problem with HH2s is not training or lack of preformance, but the price tag
I have gone back to using T1 Hammerheads because I absolutely refuse to pay 2 mil for a fkn medium drone. Regrettably many people are too rich or too stupid (or too both) so the price will prolly keep on rising :/
same here man..
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Loka
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Father Weebles
Originally by: Leandro Salazar The problem with HH2s is not training or lack of preformance, but the price tag
I have gone back to using T1 Hammerheads because I absolutely refuse to pay 2 mil for a fkn medium drone. Regrettably many people are too rich or too stupid (or too both) so the price will prolly keep on rising :/
same here man..
Well a T2 Drone could deal the dmg needed to win a fight and save your ship. Probably a Expensive ship with expensive Modules.
I rather would loose only 8 mil in Drones, than 200 and more million when loosing a T2 ship or battleship with T2 equipment. And the can you could loot afterwards probably already compensate your losses.
Either you fit your ship with T2 and then max the effecivness or you fit your ship with T1 and make it cheap and easy replacable _________________________ Iam back
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Sirilonwe
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:44:00 -
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I'm using T2 Hammerheads. And haven't lost any since I use them. Learn to use them, keep the aggro on you. ____________________________________ Free ISP users, read this if you have connections problems [b]I'm on Eris side! |
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Frozen Buffalo
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:55:00 -
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The Differenz between T1 and T2 Drones are exactly that the T2 Drones are 20% better in everything! Just the Drones!
So for me its not worth +1Mil a Drone !
I use a mix of Small and Med Drones in my Brutix because of the variety of Lvl 3 Mission Targets.
The Price for T2 Small Drones around 100k each is still ok, but I never used T2 Med Drones too expensive.
Buy some Drone Skills for that money and increase Dmg, Durabilty and so on and you get more out of it!
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migwar
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:04:00 -
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Type of drones used, In my case depends on the ship there in. In im in a PVP drone boat and drones are my primary damage source, i want max damage.
But in your case without the durability skills your expensive T2 drones are very vulnerable
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Karn Mithralia
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:35:00 -
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Rich or stupid? No ...
Lets see, 5 x T2 Hammers cost what. 10 mill?
Might stick some in my ACpest, insurance 30mill, T2 650's, 500k x 6, T2 ammo .. hmm allow 10 mill, 2 hvy diminishing 4mill each, 2 x LAR II, EAN II ...
You get the picture, the reason people buy them is in relation to total cost of ship they are no big deal, and when you have heavily invested in a ship its ridiculous to shortchange the drone. -----------------------------------------
Now recruiting. |
CCP Hammerhead
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:42:00 -
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STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
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ZaKma
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
Spam.. mods!
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: ZaKma
Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
Spam.. mods!
Yeah, because nobody else ever spams.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
Last time when Wrangler did a MC Hammer post, I heard that song in my head for more than a week non-stop. Now it is happening again.
/me hates good memory. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
Question is..are you T1 or T2?
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
Question is..are you T1 or T2?
He's civilian
--- Originally by: Archilies Ignore what others say: Fit what you want, with what you have, whenever you want.
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Haloe
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Timelord Q: Should a Gallente Pod Pilot train up T2 Drone Skills?
A: YES!
The extra damage/speed/durability/tracking all WELL worth their high price! Change how you have your 'Overview' displayed so the top 50% shows your 'Selected Item' and objects in your scan range. The bottom 50% should have all your drones organized into named drone battlegroups.
When you launch drones, expand the window so you can watch their damage meters. When one starts to take too much damage, tell it to 'return and orbit', target it, remote repair it, scoop it, then redeploy it.
With proper usage of drones you can become extremely effective at both PvE and PvP. Just like there are Hybrid, Projectile, Laser, and Missile Specialists... you can also be a Drone Specialist!
Train up those Drone skills and you will see what I mean!
Good to see a constructive, helpful post. These are getting very rare. Thanks (even though I don't use drones ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I give up on this sig nonsense. |
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Haloe
Good to see a constructive, helpful post. These are getting very rare. Thanks (even though I don't use drones )
Its because people ask the same questions over and over again, and as a frequent forum visiter, you get tired of replying with detailed explainations after a while. Its human nature to easily get bored when repeating themselfs.
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kalaan Oratay
Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
Question is..are you T1 or T2?
He's civilian
Ah, these drones which are one use only and do 1 point of *splat* damage?
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Matsuo Masato
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
dont nerf this one its only 20kb |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Matsuo Masato
Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
OMG My Eyes!
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Keitaro Baka
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:14:00 -
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HH 2's are quite a bit better at everything than HH 1's indeed..
They are about 10-20 times more expensive that's tru and I hate the fact there are so few bpo out, but...
as a drone user I have to say that since I don't use ammo or t2 guns / launchers I don't spend that much cash on mishes.
The biggest problem is warping out of missions, especially due to eve freezes/crashes etc... you usually lose 5 drones that way.. in that way they really are way too expensive..
But yes they are worth it...
ofcourse it's also worth it to learn all the drone spec skills, so you can use the cheaper vespa II's for missions too ;)
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Winter Star
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:16:00 -
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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammerhead STOP!
Hammerhead!
Sorry i just had to reply since I saw my name.
You must be very proud that the drones named after you are the most expensive! ------------------ Tired of fleet combat lag? -Post HERE
All posts are my personal opinions. |
Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar The problem with HH2s is not training or lack of preformance, but the price tag
I have gone back to using T1 Hammerheads because I absolutely refuse to pay 2 mil for a fkn medium drone. Regrettably many people are too rich or too stupid (or too both) so the price will prolly keep on rising :/
having to leave a whole group of t2 drones behind because of bugged mission aggros ftl
To the original poster, make sure you train drone interfacing to lvl 5 before even considering t2 drones. ______________
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Mogrin
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:06:00 -
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t2 drones aren't worth it. Imagine a t2 ship that costs 100x the price of its t1 equivelent. No t2 ship costs that much, and in fact the price jump from t1 drones to t2 drones is TWICE the jumprate of a caracal to a cerberus. Now imagine that once every 10 missions you have to warp out leaving this ship to the wolves.
You are 100x more likely to lose a drone than any other t2 peice of equipment, they yeild 25% more damage, and cost 100x as much as t1 drones. So having 5 hammerhead 2's is like having 6 and a 4th of hammerhead 1's.
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Zan Maruke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Timelord Change how you have your 'Overview' displayed so the top 50% shows your 'Selected Item' and objects in your scan range. The bottom 50% should have all your drones organized into named drone battlegroups.
Now, here I'm wondering. How do you organize drones into battlegroups? I just see a mess of individual drones in there. What I wouldn't give for systems so I could sort them by types or put together my own 'packages' for particular missions/targets.
As it is, I just stick with a mix of general drones to cover all damage types (or specific ones for missioning/ratting) and launch 'em all. Then scoop 'em all back when it's over.
It'd be much more useful if I could really sort them out and put them together, in whatever combinations, in specific flights so I didn't have to launch them individually to achieve the same effect.
Is there really a way to do that?
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