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MissTune
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.08.05 08:53:00 -
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Are we allowed to use macros to make isk while we go to bed? mining, ratting, updating those .1 market orders? if not how is somebody allowed to abuse game mechanics and sit cloaked in systems all night while they are sleeping? why are CCP so against doing something about it, if someone is allowed to take game changing actions while they are sleeping, why can't I? I didn't want to make this into a rant topic but theres nothing more annoying than having to wonder why ccp favour these actions there have been many many viable suggestions over the years to fix this, while they all get blatantly ignored. when do players get an option to have their say? so why can't i use a macro to have fun while i sleep? we all pay the same price. |
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
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Posted - 2014.08.05 08:58:00 -
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AFK sucks. Dont do it. Whether its piloting, mining, ratting or being cloaked; either play or gtfo |
Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.08.05 08:58:00 -
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MissTune wrote:I didn't want to make this into a rant topic
Too late you already have.
Nothing wrong with afk cloaking.
They should get rid of local in 0.0 and low-sec. But then that would give you something else to worry about.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8457
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:00:00 -
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No, you cannot automate your client. Duh.
And as for your thinly veiled whine about AFK cloaking, they are not equivalent, and in before lock. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
MissTune
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:00:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:MissTune wrote:I didn't want to make this into a rant topic Too late you already have. Nothing wrong with afk cloaking. They should get rid of local in 0.0 and low-sec. But then that would give you something else to worry about. Of course there is dude, one should have to be at the screen at least(kudos to those that do) but to go to bed cloaked in a system if just plain ********. |
MissTune
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:02:00 -
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The point is being missed entirely. IF i cant go out ratting while i go to sleep Why should i be affected by a cloaky if he is...potentially....asleep |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4055
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:02:00 -
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MissTune wrote:Are we allowed to use macros to make isk while we go to bed? mining, ratting, updating those .1 market orders? if not how is somebody allowed to abuse game mechanics and sit cloaked in systems all night while they are sleeping? why are CCP so against doing something about it, if someone is allowed to take game changing actions while they are sleeping, why can't I? I didn't want to make this into a rant topic but theres nothing more annoying than having to wonder why ccp favour these actions there have been many many viable suggestions over the years to fix this, while they all get blatantly ignored. when do players get an option to have their say? so why can't i use a macro to have fun while i sleep? we all pay the same price. WHAT I really want to know though, is what is CCP's answer to this? I cant seem to find anything that explains why they allow the mechanic to be as it is, all i find are locked topics and the like. Surely if they are not willing to make a change, they have a viable answer?
AFK cloaking and macro usage are not the same thing. They are not even comparable, and this attempt to make them so is disingenious at best, and flat out stupid at worst. An AFK cloaker is not using third party stuff to hack his way to fortune while he faps to some pretty 18 year old on Chaturbate.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8457
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:02:00 -
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MissTune wrote:Grog Aftermath wrote:MissTune wrote:I didn't want to make this into a rant topic Too late you already have. Nothing wrong with afk cloaking. They should get rid of local in 0.0 and low-sec. But then that would give you something else to worry about. Of course there is dude, one should have to be at the screen at least(kudos to those that do) but to go to bed cloaked in a system if just plain ********.
By definition, if they are asleep they are not making any keyboard or mouse commands, and they cannot harm you.
The only thing hurting you is your own cowardice. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4055
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:03:00 -
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MissTune wrote:The point is being missed entirely. IF i cant go out ratting while i go to sleep Why should i be affected by a cloaky if he is...potentially....asleep
You're not affected. If he's asleep, then he's not going to do anything to you, is he, and any perceived 'threat' is in your paranoid little noggin only. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:03:00 -
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MissTune wrote:Grog Aftermath wrote:MissTune wrote:I didn't want to make this into a rant topic Too late you already have. Nothing wrong with afk cloaking. They should get rid of local in 0.0 and low-sec. But then that would give you something else to worry about. Of course there is dude, one should have to be at the screen at least(kudos to those that do) but to go to bed cloaked in a system if just plain ********.
It's not like an afk cloaker is going to pop your pod, now is it. |
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Lord LazyGhost
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:04:00 -
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If the game is to boring for you and you want to play it afk whats the point.......
go play something fun that you actually want to play.
and afk cloaking is not game changing at all.
all he is doing is sitting in system afk cloaked up.
its your choice to not do anything in that system while he is their. Just incase he comes and kills you. But he is not effecting the game its self in anyway shape or form. hes only effecting your weak minded Risk vs reward Blue donut of power. want to make isk but do not want to risk your ship.
now you want to make isk but dont even want to have to play the game Shame on you. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8457
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:04:00 -
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MissTune wrote:The point is being missed entirely. IF i cant go out ratting while i go to sleep Why should i be affected by a cloaky if he is...potentially....asleep
You are not effected by the cloaky.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4055
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:05:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:MissTune wrote:The point is being missed entirely. IF i cant go out ratting while i go to sleep Why should i be affected by a cloaky if he is...potentially....asleep You are not effected by the cloaky.
And these are not the droids you are looking for...
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:09:00 -
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Why they are able to put buy/sell orders in the market, go sleep and still make isk?
Why are they able to set PI production, going sleep and still make isk?
Why are they able to set manufacturing jobs, go sleep and make isk?
Why are they able...
Still, I'm failing to see how someone AFK cloaked is making isk while sleeping by doing only that... well, maybe some new exploit?
In fact, a lot of options to make isk while sleeping don't come with RL money being spent on electricity bills since you do not need to leave your computer on.
If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD) |
MissTune
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:10:00 -
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so, why do we not have an option to find these cloakys? why do they not require fuel to operate. sure they use capacitor, but jeez if the star ship enterprise could of held cloak forever star trek wouldnt be so enjoyable |
Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:12:00 -
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MissTune wrote:The point is being missed entirely. IF i cant go out ratting while i go to sleep Why should i be affected by a cloaky if he is...potentially....asleep
I think you miss the point.
In order to rat/mine whilst asleep you would need a macro (against EULA).
Sitting afk cloaked in a system, doesn't require a macro (not against the EULA). |
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:12:00 -
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MissTune wrote:The point is being missed entirely. IF i cant go out ratting while i go to sleep Why should i be affected by a cloaky if he is...potentially....asleep and exactly how can you be affected by an asleep cloaker? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:13:00 -
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MissTune wrote:so, why do we not have an option to find these cloakys? why do they not require fuel to operate. sure they use capacitor, but jeez if the star ship enterprise could of held cloak forever star trek wouldnt be so enjoyable
Wow.
That might be the worst post of the week. I'll tell you, by the way, why you don't get to find cloaked players.
It's because a cloaking device forbids you from taking any offensive action while cloaked. Simple as that. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:14:00 -
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MissTune wrote:if not how is somebody allowed to abuse game mechanics and sit cloaked in systems all night while they are sleeping? why are CCP so against doing something about it, if someone is allowed to take game changing actions while they are sleeping, why can't I? How do you know they're sleeping and not sitting there watching what's going on in the system ?
AFK cloaking isn't game changing - they're not gaining anything while being afk. If you let someone else's actions change the way you play - that's your decision. You have a ship and can fit pvp modules to it the same as they can. not to mention corp mates that you can fleet up with.
Also complaining about AFK cloaking on the forums is usually a great way to get more of them to arrive in your favourite systems, so I'm sure the other Branch residents around BU-IU4 will thank you for that.
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MissTune
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:14:00 -
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yet still no viable answer. just pathetic replies that require no effort. |
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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4057
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:15:00 -
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MissTune wrote:so, why do we not have an option to find these cloakys? why do they not require fuel to operate. sure they use capacitor, but jeez if the star ship enterprise could of held cloak forever star trek wouldnt be so enjoyable
I have had dozens of AFK'ers cloak up in a low sec pocket where I hang out. They all have one thing in common - they don't do anything EXCEPT cloak up and go AFK. So far, I haven't done anything about them because I haven't felt the need to, because I'm always paying attention and watching dscan. The bottom line is, as long as they're cloaked, they can't do any more to you than you can do to them, and that's why there's no option to find them. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4057
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:18:00 -
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MissTune wrote:yet still no viable answer. just pathetic replies that require no effort.
How about, nothing you've said so far hasn't been brought up and dismissed in the past.
Your ideas are not new and no less pathetic now than when they were first suggested. Likewise, the responses you're getting are exactly what you deserve for resurrecting this nonsense.
You do realise that at my earliest opportunity, I'll be using a locator to find you and send an AFK cloaky toon your way now just to annoy you. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Lord LazyGhost
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:19:00 -
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MissTune wrote:yet still no viable answer. just pathetic replies that require no effort.
btw welcome to my locator list you may have a new person in your local list showing up for a while. 5 accounts lots of cloaky cyno alts to spare :) |
Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:19:00 -
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MissTune wrote:yet still no viable answer. just pathetic replies that require no effort.
Doesn't matter what we say, you just want people to agree with you as you've already made up your mind. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8460
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:22:00 -
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MissTune wrote:yet still no viable answer. just pathetic replies that require no effort.
There will never be a viable answer to a self inflicted problem. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
MissTune
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:24:00 -
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I wasnt expecting anything to change after the long list of locked topics on the same category. I was just looking for information as to why this mechanic is so simple yet so effective. we all have our opinions on it, i just wonder why the greater majority get pinned down and ignored for insolence when its arguable on both sides. im just baffled by it all. i guess there is some viable answers like, why can market orders be made and go offline to make isk etc i cant argue that at all maybe i should join the party! if u cant beat them join them isnt it?
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Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:25:00 -
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MissTune wrote:yet still no viable answer. just pathetic replies that require no effort. maybe because your "problem" exist only in your mind? if he's afk he cant be doing anything against you, if he stop being afk to do something, he wont be afk. so where's the problem in an afk cloaker?
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Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:27:00 -
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MissTune wrote:I wasnt expecting anything to change after the long list of locked topics on the same category. I was just looking for information as to why this mechanic is so simple yet so effective. we all have our opinions on it, i just wonder why the greater majority get pinned down and ignored for insolence when its arguable on both sides. im just baffled by it all. i guess there is some viable answers like, why can market orders be made and go offline to make isk etc i cant argue that at all maybe i should join the party! if u cant beat them join them isnt it?
It's only effective because you let your paranoia get the better of you. |
Ambo
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:29:00 -
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Nice troll. I actually thought you were genuine at first but this:
Quote:if the star ship enterprise could of held cloak forever star trek wouldnt be so enjoyable
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MissTune
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.08.05 09:30:00 -
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Sara Tosa wrote:MissTune wrote:yet still no viable answer. just pathetic replies that require no effort. maybe because your "problem" exist only in your mind? if he's afk he cant be doing anything against you, if he stop being afk to do something, he wont be afk. so where's the problem in an afk cloaker? i guess you are right i guess the problem occurs when i question if the individual is actually awake. i guess this is the joys of living in null sec and i should of taken that into account when i decided to move here, and probably before i started this long over due locked topic. So now I have my answer. |
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