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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.08.05 18:38:00 -
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I'm excited to get excited about it. Maybe they'll announce plans to finally balance Tech3's with the rest of the cruisers. Epic Space Cat |
Boom McCondor
State War Academy Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.08.05 18:39:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Sven Inneson wrote:Here's what we can glean from the 2 posts in the Features and Ideas forum:
- Heavy Assault Cruisers will receive minor tweaks
oh good ... the Ishtar has needed a buff for a while OMGSARCASM!
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De'Veldrin
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
2742
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Posted - 2014.08.05 18:56:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only thing we can look forward to is somebody's tears over something because their min-max bubble got poked by some .0001 percent change in a stat or attribute somewhere.
Now, maybe, since the name of the update is Hyperion, that the actual ship called Hyperion can get a visible drone bay? Out of curiosity, what are Hyperions used for these days? I very rarely see one in the wild. A mate of mine swears by this with sentries (And yeah i know) [Hyperion, s derpy ass Hyperion] 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactive Armor Hardener EM Ward Amplifier II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Large Micro Jump Drive Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Sensor Booster II,Scan Resolution Script Drone Link Augmentor II 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
I... dafuq is this ****? De'Veldrin's Corallary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3569
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Posted - 2014.08.05 19:09:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:I... dafuq is this ****? Stubborn defiant proof pve is waaaay too easy. I haven't checked in a while so I don't know if he still flys it that badly, I'll ask when I login.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5193
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Posted - 2014.08.05 19:29:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only thing we can look forward to is somebody's tears over something because their min-max bubble got poked by some .0001 percent change in a stat or attribute somewhere.
Now, maybe, since the name of the update is Hyperion, that the actual ship called Hyperion can get a visible drone bay? Out of curiosity, what are Hyperions used for these days? I very rarely see one in the wild.
I have an alt specifically trained for them (per the Mastery tabs) and getting very good results even with less than 5 million SP. It's a tanking monster.
For PVP it suffers from the same fate as other battleships that do the same job a little better so you probably don't see them die in a fire much. The fit that inspired me (thanks to Dracvlad) is a PVP fit and my noob alt with less than 3M SP was running level 4s with a PVP fit and still is since March. Admittedly the "damage as tank" model where delivering the spank is a higher priority makes the Megathron the go to ship for more brutal face-melting brawling while the Hyperion can sustain more damage and fight at a distance with its generous drone bay.
I have not seen any fleet doctrines with the Hyperion and don't know but I suspect there's a good reason for that close to my presumptions about the mega and what we have seen with the Domi thus far. But a well-fit Hyperion with the right skills, from my experience, is one heck of a good ship. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3666
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Posted - 2014.08.05 19:30:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:I'm hoping for the best and assuming the worst.
They have not even patched their last "Expansion".
Yes they have, according to patch notes we're on Crius 1.7. The Drake is a Lie |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5193
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Posted - 2014.08.05 19:34:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only thing we can look forward to is somebody's tears over something because their min-max bubble got poked by some .0001 percent change in a stat or attribute somewhere.
Now, maybe, since the name of the update is Hyperion, that the actual ship called Hyperion can get a visible drone bay? Out of curiosity, what are Hyperions used for these days? I very rarely see one in the wild. A mate of mine swears by this with sentries (And yeah i know) [Hyperion, s derpy ass Hyperion] 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactive Armor Hardener EM Ward Amplifier II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Large Micro Jump Drive Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Sensor Booster II,Scan Resolution Script Drone Link Augmentor II 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Large Trimark Armor Pump I I... dafuq is this ****?
Annnnnnd that is NOT how you tank a Hyperion.
That's making my head hurt. Good God. Where's Gunny (R. Lee Ermey) when you need him? That fitting needs a Marine Corp style dressing down.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3573
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Posted - 2014.08.05 19:44:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Annnnnnd that is NOT how you tank a Hyperion. That's making my head hurt. Good God. Where's Gunny (R. Lee Ermey) when you need him? That fitting needs a Marine Corp style dressing down. No it needs antimatter, applied liberaly. =][= |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
916
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:08:00 -
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Sara Tosa wrote:Soldarius wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Sven Inneson wrote:Here's what we can glean from the 2 posts in the Features and Ideas forum:
- Heavy Assault Cruisers will receive minor tweaks
oh good ... the Ishtar has needed a buff for a while Its getting a slight nerf actually. Tracking bonus going from 7.5% to 5% per level. tha'ts just their first proposal and first pass, probably the nerf bat will be weighted more. I still think that the ishtar should have its bandwidth lowered to 124.9mhz.
Think of the threadnaught! New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16154
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:14:00 -
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I think that we can all agree that no matter what will be included with Hyperion, it will be another stunning CCP NakedMan masterpiece.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
2396
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:15:00 -
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excitement = 0 I would rather go watch grass grow. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif =ƒÿü |
Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
272
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:16:00 -
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If I have understood it correct the patch coming in 21 days is supposed to contain the second part of the industry release - namely the invention overhaul?
Perhaps they will get also around at last removing the T2 BPO's from the game. Autumn would be kind of logical spot to do it as the returing players from the summer would (probably) smooth out the drop in subs when some number of T2 BPO owners ragequits (for whole several weeks) over such outrageous change.
In any case there seems to be some kind of surprise up the CCP sleeve as if you look the moderation in these two known threads about features of this expansion they are .. very strict .. about "rumours" in there.
* puts on his tinfoil admiral hat. Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |
Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:22:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only thing we can look forward to is somebody's tears over something because their min-max bubble got poked by some .0001 percent change in a stat or attribute somewhere.
Now, maybe, since the name of the update is Hyperion, that the actual ship called Hyperion can get a visible drone bay?
Not before my Dominix drone beast gets a visible drone bay! |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope Gallente Federation
240
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:25:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: A mate of mine swears by this with sentries
(And yeah i know)
[Hyperion, s derpy ass Hyperion] 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactive Armor Hardener
EM Ward Amplifier II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Large Micro Jump Drive Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Sensor Booster II,Scan Resolution Script
Drone Link Augmentor II 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
That Hyperion is garbage! This one is better: [Hyperion, Bossperion]
Damage Control II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Large Armor Repairer Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Reactive Armor Hardener Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (X2)
100MN Afterburner II Federation Navy Stasis Webifier (X2) Warp Disruptor II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L \ Null L \ Caldari Antimatter L (X6) Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I (Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher)
Large Anti-Explosive Pump II Large Anti-Kinetic Pump II Large Trimark Armor Pump II
Warrior II x5 Garde II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
Sven Inneson
Heathen Foray
3
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:28:00 -
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Please take the Hyperion ship discussion elsewhere. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16155
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:29:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: A mate of mine swears by this with sentries
(And yeah i know)
[Hyperion, s derpy ass Hyperion] 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactive Armor Hardener
EM Ward Amplifier II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Large Micro Jump Drive Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Sensor Booster II,Scan Resolution Script
Drone Link Augmentor II 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun,Antimatter Charge L
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Your honor, id like to submit this as Exhibit A as proof that Highsec was asking for it.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope Gallente Federation
240
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:32:00 -
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Sven Inneson wrote:Please take the Hyperion ship discussion elsewhere.
NEVER!!! I will stay here and helicopter my Hyperion I desire I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
mow hawk
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.08.05 20:37:00 -
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Rapscallion Jones wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only thing we can look forward to is somebody's tears over something because their min-max bubble got poked by some .0001 percent change in a stat or attribute somewhere.
Now, maybe, since the name of the update is Hyperion, that the actual ship called Hyperion can get a visible drone bay? Not before my Dominix drone beast gets a visible drone bay!
This.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3574
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:00:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I think that we can all agree that no matter what will be included with Hyperion, it will be another stunning CCP NakedMan masterpiece.
We can only hope.
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:
That Hyperion is garbage! This one is better
I know, that's why posted it to (successfully I'll add) derail the thread.
I petition unsuccessful at everything to add the aforementioned Hyperion to the holy crusade to save nullsec o7 =][= |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2457
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:11:00 -
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To derail derailment a little I will state what could get me excited about incoming releases: - t3 cruisers made usable in all combinations of subsystems, - home among stars I could build anywhere, - meaningful gameplay in mining, - drones as fully fledged weapon system with proper UI, - streamlined and easy to understand and manage overview settings, - ability to accept/complete missions remotely if there's no "delivery" requirement, - NPC ships fitted in proper way (cruise missiles machariels, seriously?) - exploration system that would actually let me explore instead of "warp and clickfest" stub
And probably something else I cannot remember right now. Above list is not organized in any particular order. Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance
539
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:12:00 -
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As has been well said by Carniflex above, the next "expansion" is supposed to be finishing off the new industry with invention changes.
I'd like to see:
GÇó Research Project Management skill changed to do something other than drip datacores into the game which are now in massive oversupply thanks to FW LP stores GÇó T2 BPOs made available on the market or via invention (or some research 'project'... *see above) or alternatively all converted to 3 production months worth of BPCs GÇó Invention teams GÇó Some actual work done by CCP to improve the overall game rather than tinkering with stats of a couple of ships and massively ramping up the "skins" / Aurum revenue generators and calling it an 'expansion'.
I expect to see:
GÇó Invention teams GÇó Some more CCP Greyscale screw ups GÇó A release thats thinner than Netto value brand toilet roll |
Sven Inneson
Heathen Foray
4
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:13:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:To derail derailment a little I will state what could get me excited about incoming releases: - t3 cruisers made usable in all combinations of subsystems, - home among stars I could build anywhere, - meaningful gameplay in mining, - drones as fully fledged weapon system with proper UI, - streamlined and easy to understand and manage overview settings, - ability to accept/complete missions remotely if there's no "delivery" requirement, - NPC ships fitted in proper way (cruise missiles machariels, seriously?) - exploration system that would actually let me explore instead of "warp and clickfest" stub
And probably something else I cannot remember right now. Above list is not organized in any particular order.
Those would be some exciting features! |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2457
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:15:00 -
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I know, I got excited while writing it and then I remembered I'm just a forum hobo Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
2602
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:19:00 -
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Sven Inneson wrote:Do you feel that CCP is obligated to release exciting new content in accordance with their new 6 week release plan or is it sufficient that they merely tweak the current meta with statistic changes and add an occasional module here and there? No I don't feel they are obliged, but whatever they release under this new approach, it doesn't so far match anything much they outlined during FanFest.
The dates of the first 2 have now been changed. Industry pushed back, pushing back the Corp/Alliance changes. Corp/Alliance changes not so far announced for the next release.
So it's hard to be excited about any of it. I appreciate their continued development of the game, but I'm not going to get wrapped up in the hype of these releases as the information isn't consistent enough so far.
It is early in this new way to manage releasing features (ready or not), so I'm in a wait and see pattern at the moment. Not excited, nor disinterested if that makes sense. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3575
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:22:00 -
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Dersen Lowery
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
1179
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:25:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Sven Inneson wrote:Do you feel that CCP is obligated to release exciting new content in accordance with their new 6 week release plan or is it sufficient that they merely tweak the current meta with statistic changes and add an occasional module here and there? No I don't feel they are obliged, but whatever they release under this new approach, it doesn't so far match anything much they outlined during FanFest. The dates of the first 2 have now been changed. Industry pushed back, pushing back the Corp/Alliance changes. Corp/Alliance changes not so far announced for the next release.
The 6 week window means that things will*cough* should ship when they're done. The kind of unenviable work they're doing, ripping out legacy systems and jamming in new ones, is not easy to schedule.
So yeah, there are going to be some yawner releases. They're much better than yawner expansions.
Hyperion is the "we just all got back from vacation" release, so I'm really not expecting much at all. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
49
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:26:00 -
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im just going to jump in on this one right quick..
the dev's are using the new catch phrase "vision".. yet they're obviously blind cause they're going with a named expansion called Hyperion.. yet decided to completely shun the actual battleship in terms of expansion level new content...
nope.. their meaning of "vision" now means we'll do a small tweak and perhaps change up a few things that will allow the player to have more fittings... that's content??? really??????????
not excited at all.. I want the new dominix re-imaged ship.. I want the new rorqual and her new look.. that's having a vision but fraid to say.. cant see a vision right now cause its time for vacation. :(
they need to really remove this "expansion" term and go with patch updates cause I cant really see "new content" on expansion level when in fact its only tweaks and adjustments.
I know things are different here when they use terms and it is what it is.. but this stuff is far from expansions.
expansions = new areas, new AI spawns, new revamps, new missions, new something elsewhere. here its.. small tweaks, perhaps one major fix, nerfs, nerfs again, oops add in a module to fix the nerf, watch market react to the nerfs, forum rage, folks saying "ive had it im out", poor ISD dude going off on forums about it then sounding like a robot, a csm member comment, alliance members comments, trolling, bickering, and then a dev responding in cryptic fashion.... this is an eve "expansion" all put together.
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2461
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:27:00 -
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I have one more item on my list but that would make all hamsters drown in rivers of tears:
Warp drives working as they are in Star Trek and alike - set coords and off you go. As a trade off: when you land there's so much energy emitted that your grid becomes warpable beacon.
I know camping boys pay for this game too and they would get frakked by such change. Adapt or die, v0v And I know current system cannot support such things but hey, I'm not a developer I won't pay attention to technical details when my dreams are considered :) Eve Online Overview Wizard: Forum thread Homepage
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Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2014.08.05 21:45:00 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:
the dev's are using the new catch phrase "vision".. yet they're obviously blind cause they're going with a named expansion called Hyperion.. yet decided to completely shun the actual battleship in terms of expansion level new content...
they are going with ancient greek titans names: cronus (kronos), crius, hyperion, coeus, iapetus, menmosyne, thetys, theia, phoebe, rhea and themis. some of eve ships are named after titans too but expansions arent named after ships, they just have the same hispiration. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5194
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Posted - 2014.08.05 22:01:00 -
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Rapscallion Jones wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The only thing we can look forward to is somebody's tears over something because their min-max bubble got poked by some .0001 percent change in a stat or attribute somewhere.
Now, maybe, since the name of the update is Hyperion, that the actual ship called Hyperion can get a visible drone bay? Not before my Dominix drone beast gets a visible drone bay!
Let us not fight for drone bays. Let us join forces instead. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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