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Moloney
Mass Effect Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.08.30 15:45:00 -
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Got to keep saying it:
ROLL BACK THE WORMHOLE MASS SPAWN DISTANCE.
ROLL BACK THE ADDITION OF FRIGATE SIZED WORMHOLES.
ROLL BACK YHE INCREASED WORMHOLE SPAWNS MECHANIC.
LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
FIRE CCP FOZZIE. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2174
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Posted - 2014.08.30 16:46:00 -
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Moloney wrote:Got to keep saying it:
ROLL BACK THE WORMHOLE MASS SPAWN DISTANCE.
ROLL BACK THE ADDITION OF FRIGATE SIZED WORMHOLES.
ROLL BACK YHE INCREASED WORMHOLE SPAWNS MECHANIC.
LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
FIRE CCP FOZZIE.
Fozzie just grows in power from all you tears. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Rei Moon
Murderous Inc
57
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:19:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Moloney wrote:Got to keep saying it:
ROLL BACK THE WORMHOLE MASS SPAWN DISTANCE.
ROLL BACK THE ADDITION OF FRIGATE SIZED WORMHOLES.
ROLL BACK YHE INCREASED WORMHOLE SPAWNS MECHANIC.
LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
FIRE CCP FOZZIE. Fozzie just grows in power from all you tears. Shoo shoo worm |
Moloney
Mass Effect Enterprises
103
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:29:00 -
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I guess that's the end of that then.
Two people have decided to bend over and take it....
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OMEGA REDUX
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
23
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:48:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:OMEGA REDUX wrote:I was at the townhall and he did not once give a single reason for the mass spawn change. Actually, he did. He said they spotted it on the forums in a "we want your little things" thread (blame Chitsa for that, the original idea was his) and then it was something that was pushed forward by last years CSM (suprise suprise, Chitsa again, who has ****** off to be a scrub in lowsec). So basically what Fozzie said was: "We read it, thought it was an awesome idea and then implemented it because we can". go back and actually listen to the townhall as that is in fact not what he said. |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
824
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:03:00 -
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OMEGA REDUX wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:OMEGA REDUX wrote:I was at the townhall and he did not once give a single reason for the mass spawn change. Actually, he did. He said they spotted it on the forums in a "we want your little things" thread (blame Chitsa for that, the original idea was his) and then it was something that was pushed forward by last years CSM (suprise suprise, Chitsa again, who has ****** off to be a scrub in lowsec). So basically what Fozzie said was: "We read it, thought it was an awesome idea and then implemented it because we can". go back and actually listen to the townhall as that is in fact not what he said. 24minutes 28seconds in.
"The original idea was one that came up in a wormhole feedback thread and was discussed internally with the last CSM..."
While he doesn't say Chitsa pushed for it, we have been told repeatedly that this was an idea that he majorly loved. Seeing as though he was on the last CSM, you can assume that he did indeed push forward an idea that he liked and wanted to happen... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
179
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:24:00 -
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Wow. More than half that last page was folks trolling each other instead of staying on point about the issue this thread is for. Shame on us.
I'm out of caring to get the trolls to STFU and get on topic. Trolls will be trolls, and I'm beyond arguing at them now.
The massive betrayal was felt by all of W-space when the changes to SiSi went live without a word of them being mentioned on the forums. All of a sudden jumping a capital put you 20km off a hole. Has that been dropped some? Yeah, maybe a little. I don't know, my corp hasn't dropped a cap through a wormhole since these changes went live. Most of them are still in shock at the massive changes which took place after we ran sites on Monday.
I'm not sure CCP could comprehend the analogy I want to use for how the community has been affected. But many stories of previous real life wars had similar beginnings. Pearl Harbor being attacked was one of the significant examples. The Japanese Navy and government at that time screwed up. What should have been an extremely well coordinated declaration of war followed by a swift and decisive attack at the US Pacific Fleet staging area would have been a great victory for the Japanese. Only catch, they screwed up on the sequence. The data to declare war didn't arrive before the bombs started dropping. The US felt betrayed horribly, and went into war against Japan with a massive effort to see them pay dearly for the despicable and cowardly attack.
Betrayal stings hardest when you thought you could trust someone. CCP has gotten our hopes up many times in the past. They have even listened to the community about changes they wanted to make, and tempered the actual changes with what feedback was given. In this case, with the mass-based spawn distance changes, CCP has betrayed it's community. You initiated changes without asking us, you pushed them through without reading our feedback or getting any support from the majority of the community.
Your customer relations efforts have failed. W-space satisfaction is at an all time low. People are abandoning their homes in W-space and moving to other areas of the game. If this persists corps that decide to stay may survive, but many are going to fail over the disconnect between what was W-space, and what is now a much more hostile environment. I wonder, can your metrics tell us how many POS towers were abandoned or unanchored over the past 10 days? (The writing was on the wall for anyone who read the forums, so many corps were leaving before changes went live.) |
Valenthe de Celine
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
179
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:40:00 -
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Moloney wrote:Got to keep saying it:
ROLL BACK THE WORMHOLE MASS SPAWN DISTANCE.
ROLL BACK THE ADDITION OF FRIGATE SIZED WORMHOLES.
ROLL BACK YHE INCREASED WORMHOLE SPAWNS MECHANIC.
LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
FIRE CCP FOZZIE. Stop with the personal attacks on CCP Fozzie. Just because he failed at his job for this one incident (in my recollection, anyhow) that's not a reason to throw a long time employee under the bus and demand he be fired. CCP Fozzie is a face we can relate to, and that's a testament to his contact with the EVE community. If you want a company that can learn from their mistakes and grow out of ignoring us, the players, you cant just keep screaming at them. Forgive. But I still want to know we're being heard.
I agree on the rolling back of changes on the mass-based spawn distance. This, with everything else, broke W-space.
The frigate only-WHs are strange, but not useless. Honestly, they will give a much greater access via a less dangerous route (for the others in the WH chain) because they allow scouts to probe all over without having to fear a fleet off T3s following them. Sure, it's not much of a niche for those WHs, but isn't exploration what W-space is supposed to be about? Now I have a lot more curiosity about what I'll find through that WH than I used to, as I could find a dead POS with 20 ships around it, or a dead POS with intact hangar array and ship maintenance array. I can then probe out an exit, holepully to K-space, where I can relieve said POS of some of the items held within. After the spawn rate was reduced, the levels are even tolerable.
In case you were not paying attention, the increased WH spawn mechanic was also partially rolled back. Having connections isn't the issue. It's being able to deal with them without going crazy from boredom. |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
434
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:05:00 -
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lmbo |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
790
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:25:00 -
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Valenthe de Celine wrote:All of a sudden jumping a capital put you 20km off a hole. Has that been dropped some? Yeah, maybe a little. I don't know, my corp hasn't dropped a cap through a wormhole since these changes went live. Most of them are still in shock at the massive changes which took place after we ran sites on Monday.
I'm quite surprised (probably shouldn't be) at the number of people who this took by surprise - seen quite a few people commenting on being caught out by the change in game including people I thought were on top of the coming changes.
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:09:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey everyone! This thread is for all of your feedback and discussion surrounding the changes to wormhole jump spawn distance that we proposed in our recently released dev blog. I want to remind people that the best way to have your views heard is to state your case calmly, politely and with logical reasoning. Whether you like this idea or don't like this idea, make sure to let us know exactly why you hold your opinion, with as much detail as possible. :Edit: Update on August 16th: Hey everyone. I want to thank you for all the reasoned feedback posted here, in your third party blogs, and passed along to the CSM.
We've made some changes to the plan and updated the dev blog with the new version (It may take a few minutes to apply).
The goal with this set of tweaks is to make the time required to return to the wormhole (or to get within refit range of your friends) for average jumps shorter, while keeping a significant element of risk. To reach these goals, we're pulling the base spawn distance for large ships in significantly, to below 14km. At the same time we'll be adding a new mechanic that modulates the randomness of your jump based on how close a wormhole is to collapse. For a fresh wormhole with none of its mass limit used, the deviation from the base distance will be a maximum of 2km. For a jump that collapses the wormhole, the maximum deviation (which can send you even closer to the wormhole or farther away) will be a maximum of 5km.
This brings the average jump distance down significantly while preventing complete safety and giving players a new element to consider in their strategic decision making.
GÇ£Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them" GÇöEinsteinGÇ¥
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
JTK Fotheringham
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
72
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:13:00 -
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Oh. My. Goodness.
I'm a wormholer, I don't like the WH jump distance change - in particular, I don't like the way it's been implemented.
But as a gaming community we need to step back and ask is it really worth comparing CCP to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour, or ****** as he launched Barbarossa? As far as I can tell, nobody's died... sometimes the EVE community sickens me.
-1 for the changes. Please implement a fix. I'd settle for a mini-jump-drive, for caps only, that moves you 10km forward, and eats a chunk of your cap. |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:21:00 -
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JTK Fotheringham wrote:Oh. My. Goodness.
I'm a wormholer, I don't like the WH jump distance change - in particular, I don't like the way it's been implemented.
But as a gaming community we need to step back and ask is it really worth comparing CCP to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour, or ****** as he launched Barbarossa? As far as I can tell, nobody's died... sometimes the EVE community sickens me.
-1 for the changes. Please implement a fix. I'd settle for a mini-jump-drive, for caps only, that moves you 10km forward, and eats a chunk of your cap.
I think it is more someone making a clear example of how the unintended instillation of the feeling of betrayal has unintended and significant consequences.
She/he is quite right.
Many people do feel a significant lavel of betrayal.
This may be wrong or unbalanced, but to them, it is real. It is CCP's job as a buisness not only to deal with the serious side effects introduced with this release, and now they also have to handle a PR disaster that is actually, for those affected greater than incarna.
Now wormholers are a different demographic, we do not scream, wail, and beat our chests.
It is MUCH more frightening for a business than that.
One simply ceases contact with those who wish to obtain payment for a service, and refuse to discuss and rectify problems.
Simple.
My fear is that CCP are so used to the screaming, they will not act until it is too late.
Then all they will say is "but where did they go?" There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
559
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:25:00 -
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I just got told that a GM said in Jita local that placing depots is not the right form of protest and that we are supposed to post about it on forums.
THE AUDACITY
They dare tell us to go post on forums after they blatantly disregard 100 pages of posts that clearly state every reason in existence why this is bad.
I am out of words.
At this point I might really do something stupid.
What the bloody hell are you guys planning to do with this game?
Sell to EA?
YOU MIGHT AS WELL.
PS: Inb4 this post gets deleted. That would be ironic on so many levels.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything. |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:29:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:I just got told that a G.? said in Jita local that placing depots is not the right form of protest and that we are supposed to post about it on forums.
THE AUDACITY
They dare tell us to go post on forums after they blatantly disregard 100 pages of posts that clearly state every reason in existence why this is bad.
I am out of words.
At this point I might really do something stupid.
What the bloody hell are you guys planning to do with this game?
Sell to EA?
YOU MIGHT AS WELL.
PS: Inb4 this post gets deleted. That would be ironic on so many levels.
I hope your post does not, just amend that two letter word to remove the excuse. At least your protest gained some visibility, it was an excellent idea. If I had a facebook account I might have spammed the twitch stream of the alliance fights, but alas I do not.
Their first step in solving a problem is to admit there is one. The denial is strong with this one.................... There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
559
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:32:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote: I hope your post does not, just amend that two letter word to remove the excuse. At least your protest gained some visibility, it was an excellent idea. If I had a facebook account I might have spammed the twitch stream of the alliance fights, but alas I do not.
This is wrong on so many levels man. I have never been so angry at CCP. If there was a game like this except with good devs I'd be gone in half a second.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything. |
Timm3h
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
13
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:33:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Aquila Sagitta wrote:Not that I'm advicating for mass based spawn, I'm still pretty neutral on it, we offered to do a joint roam with you guys and you declined. So its your fault for chatting content on not pew pew content.
Also that excuse for not scouting a hole properly is horrible. Stuff camping a wh and mobile bubbles on scan? You made it past our picket which means your home free to scout >.< One of your guys helped me with the Jita protest thing so I'd hardly say .EOL is advocating new changes.
To make a quick amend here: my words are my own, based upon my own experiences and supported by my friends who have also enjoyed their Pre-Hyperion lives as small group corporations living in low class wormholes.
I would say that (and I mean this without offense, as I enjoy the people and content Blue-Fire has to offer) Blue-Fire has the capacity to remain neutral on the subject of mass-based spawn because they are able to field a reasonable active member pool. Most wormhole corporations can not do this, essentially stranding them in their force fields until a hostile hole with a reasonable force near it collapses naturally or is rolled by a larger entity.
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:39:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote: I hope your post does not, just amend that two letter word to remove the excuse. At least your protest gained some visibility, it was an excellent idea. If I had a facebook account I might have spammed the twitch stream of the alliance fights, but alas I do not.
This is wrong on so many levels man. I have never been so angry at CCP. If there was a game like this except with good devs I'd be gone in half a second.
I am sure that every day they thank the Icelandic gods there is not.
However, the Devs, do their best, they do care, but everyone makes a bad call sometimes. They for whatever reason did handle this in an appalling manner, I personally believe that they are following orders. That is unfortunately never a good excuse for not correcting things that are a serious issue.
Hopefully the person giving those orders will have realised how phenomilally self destructive the mass spawn luck mechanic is. And how hated the entire concept is, and how players are being forced to decide whether they can continue to play the game at all if it has followed such a path.
If he has not, well, I hope he has the courage to explain the results of his decisions to Hilmar and the shareholders.
Hopefully however he will and issue the order untying the Devs hands.
And everyone benefits. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
JTK Fotheringham
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
72
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:43:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:
I think it is more someone making a clear example of how the unintended instillation of the feeling of betrayal has unintended and significant consequences.
She/he is quite right.
Many people do feel a significant lavel of betrayal.
This may be wrong or unbalanced, but to them, it is real. And THAT matters.
It is CCP's job as a business not only to deal with the serious side effects introduced with this release, and now they also have to handle a PR disaster that is actually, for those affected greater than incarna.
Now wormholers are a different demographic, we do not scream, wail, and beat our chests.
It is MUCH more frightening for a business than that.
One simply ceases contact with those who wish to obtain payment for a service, and refuse to discuss and rectify problems.
Simple.
My fear is that CCP are so used to the screaming, they will not act until it is too late.
And many who love the game, imperfect as it is, will be gone forever. A loss for all.
I have to disagree. The insertion of hyperbolic analogies to explain how you feel betrayed is immature. It suggests you have lost perspective, and the last thing a business wants to do is react to people who've lost perspective. Those who think the immature reaction - and at a high volume too - is going to affect change forget that the more hyperbole that's spat out, the more withdrawn and entrenched the other side will be come. It's entirely counter productive.
You say the Wormholer demographic is different, "we do not scream, wail, and beat our chests" - a fair portion of posts in this 90+ page thread prove otherwise. There's just not that much constructive comment, and what little there is has been drowned out by people making crass, and frankly, insulting analogies to real world events.
Stop justifying this nonsense. |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:45:00 -
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JTK Fotheringham wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:
I think it is more someone making a clear example of how the unintended instillation of the feeling of betrayal has unintended and significant consequences.
She/he is quite right.
Many people do feel a significant lavel of betrayal.
This may be wrong or unbalanced, but to them, it is real. And THAT matters.
It is CCP's job as a business not only to deal with the serious side effects introduced with this release, and now they also have to handle a PR disaster that is actually, for those affected greater than incarna.
Now wormholers are a different demographic, we do not scream, wail, and beat our chests.
It is MUCH more frightening for a business than that.
One simply ceases contact with those who wish to obtain payment for a service, and refuse to discuss and rectify problems.
Simple.
My fear is that CCP are so used to the screaming, they will not act until it is too late.
And many who love the game, imperfect as it is, will be gone forever. A loss for all.
I have to disagree. The insertion of hyperbolic analogies to explain how you feel betrayed is immature. It suggests you have lost perspective, and the last thing a business wants to do is react to people who've lost perspective. Those who think the immature reaction - and at a high volume too - is going to affect change forget that the more hyperbole that's spat out, the more withdrawn and entrenched the other side will be come. It's entirely counter productive. You say the Wormholer demographic is different, "we do not scream, wail, and beat our chests" - a fair portion of posts in this 90+ page thread prove otherwise. There's just not that much constructive comment, and what little there is has been drowned out by people making crass, and frankly, insulting analogies to real world events. Stop justifying this nonsense.
You fail to understand.
Customers do not have to explain themselves to their suppliers.
CCP should be grateful to be given the chance to correct their errors.
Very few businesses get that opportunity. None would complain about the quality of their customers. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
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JTK Fotheringham
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
72
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:51:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:
You fail to understand.
Customers do not have to explain themselves to their suppliers.
CCP should be grateful to be given the chance to correct their errors.
Very few businesses get that opportunity. None would complain about the quality of their customers.
I think you need to graduate high school, or at least learn to read and understand what people are saying.
I've no problem with customers making complaints. But I have a huge problem with customers taking to a public forum and denigrating the sacrifice of real world war veterans to explain their feelings of betrayal. I find that sickening. Plus it does nothing to help CCP hear their customers' complaint.
Stop justifying this nonsense. |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:51:00 -
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JTK Fotheringham wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:
You fail to understand.
Customers do not have to explain themselves to their suppliers.
CCP should be grateful to be given the chance to correct their errors.
Very few businesses get that opportunity. None would complain about the quality of their customers.
I think you need to graduate high school, or at least learn to read and understand what people are saying. I've no problem with customers making complaints. But I have a huge problem with customers taking to a public forum and denigrating the sacrifice of real world war veterans to explain their feelings of betrayal. I find that sickening. Plus it does nothing to help CCP hear their customers' complaint. Ok I thought it was a troll. Reported. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
JTK Fotheringham
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
72
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:53:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote: Ok I thought it was a troll. Reported.
That's exactly the level of maturity I was talking about... and loss of perspective... you're doing a great job of making my point for me.
/Thanks. |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:54:00 -
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JTK Fotheringham wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote: Ok I thought it was a troll. Reported.
That's exactly the level of maturity I was talking about... and loss of perspective... you're doing a great job of making my point for me. /Thanks. Reported There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
JTK Fotheringham
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
72
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:55:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote: Reported
Reported. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
559
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:59:00 -
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Please stop, this just makes us lose credibility.
Although at this point it probably doesn't matter CCP don't give two ***** about their players.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything. |
JTK Fotheringham
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
72
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:06:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Please stop, this just makes us lose credibility.
Although at this point it probably doesn't matter CCP don't give two ***** about their players.
I suspect the credibility was lost long, long ago.
Which is my point. This thread's well past the point of being lost in the butt hole of it's own irony, when players need to tell CCP they feel as betrayed as the US did after Pearl. FFS, could we do a better job of looking like a bunch of babies throwing our toys out the pram?
Not to mention, the lack of respect.
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1170
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:10:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Please stop, this just makes us lose credibility.
Although at this point it probably doesn't matter CCP don't give two ***** about their players.
I hope you are wrong, CCP like any company sometimes make mistakes, and If a manager has forced the developers to implement this They naturally are one more step removed from the game itself.
Wormhole space is sufficiently different, with such fragile, but working mechanics (pre hyperion) it may be hard for someone to understand how such a seemingly small change could have such a large effect.
Well the impact for those who live in wormhole space is bigger than incarna, we do not give a damn when you can buy gold plated codpieces, we do not care whether somer blink gives the devs ferraris (they wish)
We do not care about any of that.
But when they break the game so thoroughly for us, and make Luck the deciding factor of whether we live or die, and ignore all we say because they are not allowed to listen, as they are only following orders, then we are not happy at all.
As I said before, if this was anywhere else but wormholes, the machine would start, there would be press "leaks" there would be articles ripping it to shreds on the mittani and eve news 24, blogs would be "encouraged" to put the view, that would make CCP appear like atilla the hun.
We though are wormholers, once we have realised that Luck is the one thing that cannot be adapted to other than avoiding where it applies, then it is all over.
We will not rage. We will not scream We will not forget. We simply will not be interested any more.
We will simply remember who is the customer and who is the supplier.
That is not a comfortable thing to force your customers to remember.
It NEVER ends well. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
JTK Fotheringham
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
72
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:18:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote: that would make CCP appear like atilla the hun.
We though are wormholers, once we have realised that Luck is the one thing that cannot be adapted to other than avoiding where it applies, then it is all over.
We will not rage. We will not scream We will not forget.
We will simply remember who is the customer and who is the supplier.
That is not a comfortable thing to force your customers to remember.
Oh. My. Goodness. Again.
CCP would look like Atilla the Hun? Have they charged across the steppe and massacred entire civilizations? It's this sort of nonsense that loses you the fight.
And would you please park the empty rhetoric. If you're going to "simply remember who is the customer and who is the supplier" would you just quit your account, recycle your biomass,and be done with it. (Can I have your stuff?)
You've said nothing constructive in your last 10 posts - like most of this thread.
Pointless nerdrage is pointless.
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
561
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:20:00 -
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JTK Fotheringham wrote:Arya Regnar wrote:Please stop, this just makes us lose credibility.
Although at this point it probably doesn't matter CCP don't give two ***** about their players. I suspect the credibility was lost long, long ago. Which is my point. This thread's well past the point of being lost in the butt hole of it's own irony, when players need to tell CCP they feel as betrayed as the US did after Pearl. FFS, could we do a better job of looking like a bunch of babies throwing our toys out the pram? Not to mention, the lack of respect. By that I mean please stop trolling as you obviously have an agenda that benefits from these changes staying. Good for you but I'd like wormholes not dead.
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