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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.07.14 09:34:00 -
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I am currently runing the following but dont feel like i am getting the best form her, any one go any other set ups they can share?
Low Slots
1 * radioisotope reflective membrane i em dmg resistance bonus -32,5 %
1 * voltaic nanite reactive membrane i explosive dmg resistance bonus -32,5 %
1 * microcell nanite thermic membrane i thermal dmg resistance bonus -32,5 %
2 * capital armor repairer i armor hp repaired 9600
Mid Slots
6 * barton reactor capacitor recharger i (I think they are barts the 18% ones.)
High slots
5 * heavy nosferatu i energy transfer amount 100 ----------------------------------------------
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Aptenodytes
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Posted - 2006.07.14 09:40:00 -
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Uh, is this for NPCing?
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.07.14 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Aptenodytes Uh, is this for NPCing?
atm yep, but saying that would be nice to get a pvp set up to, when i got the isk going to get some drone control mods. ----------------------------------------------
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Aptenodytes
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Posted - 2006.07.14 11:18:00 -
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If you've got the ISK and the skill points to buy a carrier, then you shouldn't really have a problem finding a decent NPC setup... how did you earn the isk to buy it and the skills required to fly it?
Try fitting a webber or 3, your fighters might have problems hitting frigates/cruisers otherwise. Get active hardeners. Fit nanofibers or WCS.
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:02:00 -
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setup police! kilrock flameage assistance requested!
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Hohenheim OfLight
The MadKas Alliance Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: Hohenheim OfLight on 14/07/2006 12:24:56
Originally by: Aptenodytes If you've got the ISK and the skill points to buy a carrier, then you shouldn't really have a problem finding a decent NPC setup... how did you earn the isk to buy it and the skills required to fly it?
Try fitting a webber or 3, your fighters might have problems hitting frigates/cruisers otherwise. Get active hardeners. Fit nanofibers or WCS.
I spent a very very very very very very long time in a reteriver, then a = amount of very long time running lvl3's and wining competions on eve radio to get the isk.
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Perrin Aybara
Xenophobia Inc
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:07:00 -
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You'd be better off fitting Basic Miners on it and would probably get more out of the ship than your current setup
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Hohenheim OfLight
The MadKas Alliance Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Perrin Aybara You'd be better off fitting Basic Miners on it and would probably get more out of the ship than your current setup
Well except that it dont have turret hard points, Thou it would be nice if some one had an actual setup, rather then the "your noob at fitting carriers" I know that already which is why i asked for help. ----------------------------------------------
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Aptenodytes
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:30:00 -
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I already suggested webbers, active hardeners, nanofibers and WCS. ;) Target Painters too. Errrr, what spawns are you having problems killing with your current setup?
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Hohenheim OfLight
The MadKas Alliance Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Aptenodytes I already suggested webbers, active hardeners, nanofibers and WCS. ;) Target Painters too. Errrr, what spawns are you having problems killing with your current setup?
none really, more concerd about the player kind, after such a huge time investment. ----------------------------------------------
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 17:39:00 -
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omg ...
lol
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Zaphoniggan
Lordless Unbrella Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.14 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Perrin Aybara You'd be better off fitting Basic Miners on it and would probably get more out of the ship than your current setup
ZOMG Perrin Aybara is flying spaceships?
Find any space wolves?
P.S. Not trying to be patronizing, I love WoT ------------------------------ I refuse to use a sig until my picture is up
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Wilfan Ret'nub
Omega Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.14 18:07:00 -
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You want a drone boat for NPCing, must be filthy expensive, don't want a carrier? Why not a Moros, then?
But if you're worried the most about players killing you, you've pretty much completely screwed up by your first post.
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Aptenodytes
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight none really, more concerd about the player kind, after such a huge time investment.
Uh, try warp core stabs then
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LordJohny
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 09:30:00 -
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buahahahah sry;]
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goodby4u
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Posted - 2006.07.15 09:37:00 -
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Go with active hardeners,less but better rechargers and with the added slots maybe a webber and WCS...The high slots is really a question to behold,possibly a rep for your fighters incase they get attacked but the rest i dont know,if your in gangs every once and a while add a gang assist and energy transfer possibly...Your gang might need it =).
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Vathar
Elegance
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Posted - 2006.07.15 09:48:00 -
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Barton are low grade named Cap rechargers, go for eutectic or even T2 (expensive but your ship is too)
For frigs and such, don't even bother using fighters (in fact, don't even use fighters to npc, ctd will cost you far too much!)
If you don't use an alt to control fighters, go for at least one sensor booster II or boredom will kill you before the rats do (long locking times)
Go for active T2 hardeners or an EANM II+DCU tank, or a mix of both.
If I'm not mistaken, drone control units and advanced drone interfacing are available _
Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
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Selak Zorander
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:01:00 -
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if you go with mids full of tech 2 cap rechargers (and maybe you only need the eutics) you can run a dual capital armor rep and 3 active hardeners in lows for ever. That cap recharge also helps when jumping as if helps you get your cap recharged above 70% so you can make the next jump.
As for the highs, if your going to NPC, you should have atleast one tractor beam (the carrier flies damn slow and if you wont the loot then you need a tractor beam) and you should fit a cloaking device that way you have the potential of being able to hide from a few player rats though they would need several high damage BS/HACS or lots of NOS/Nuet if they want to get through the dual rep tank.
I would also consider training for and fitting one capital remote armor rep. It can repair the armor of a fighter in no more than two activations and can save you lots of isk in replacement/repairing of the fighters as there is always a chance they will get damaged. Other two highs are up to you, but you can prolly fit some NOS or Nuet there if you wanted.
Be warned though that the shields take forever to recharge so once they are down, dont count on them being much help the rest of the day almost, especially if you are constantly moving belt to belt. The NPC will prolly only need one armor rep to keep up with their damage.
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Buraken v2
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:30:00 -
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A true case of a complete and utter newbie trying to get the biggest ship ASAP
a sad day in eve
Quote: Mail from: Houvire Takaerne
2006.06.06 19:25 Our research has been fruity. If you're interested, I believe I have found what might be a banana in the corner of my office draw.
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Hohenheim OfLight
The MadKas Alliance Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.07.15 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Hohenheim OfLight on 15/07/2006 13:02:28
Originally by: Selak Zorander if you go with mids full of tech 2 cap rechargers (and maybe you only need the eutics) you can run a dual capital armor rep and 3 active hardeners in lows for ever. That cap recharge also helps when jumping as if helps you get your cap recharged above 70% so you can make the next jump.
As for the highs, if your going to NPC, you should have atleast one tractor beam (the carrier flies damn slow and if you wont the loot then you need a tractor beam) and you should fit a cloaking device that way you have the potential of being able to hide from a few player rats though they would need several high damage BS/HACS or lots of NOS/Nuet if they want to get through the dual rep tank.
I would also consider training for and fitting one capital remote armor rep. It can repair the armor of a fighter in no more than two activations and can save you lots of isk in replacement/repairing of the fighters as there is always a chance they will get damaged. Other two highs are up to you, but you can prolly fit some NOS or Nuet there if you wanted.
Be warned though that the shields take forever to recharge so once they are down, dont count on them being much help the rest of the day almost, especially if you are constantly moving belt to belt. The NPC will prolly only need one armor rep to keep up with their damage.
Thanks for the advies, already fitted a tractor beam as goign from can to can would have killed me other wise, thou sayign that i find it very easy to forum gang all of a sudden, i wounder where, so every keeps dumping cans in me :).
The fighters to tend to get targeted first but i have found that keeping some one ss'ed and then remote assinging the fighters to them, and then pulling them back to me is better than trying to pull them back in, they move far to slow.
Sort of tawn better remote shild and amor atm, as shild would come in hand for getting pos shilds back up, but armor would probley be more usfull day to day. ----------------------------------------------
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davidwelsh
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: davidwelsh on 15/07/2006 16:49:57
Originally by: Buraken v2 A true case of a complete and utter newbie trying to get the biggest ship ASAP
a sad day in eve
Why is this "sad"? It's his isk and his ship. If he wants to buy a carrier for npcing belts then so be it.
If he wants to buy it to mine in belts with mining drones then wonderful.
If he wants to get in it and then hit self destruct then that great too. What you and I see as a terrible waste of equipment is probably his pride and joy and a goal he's worked for for a while.
Him doing this will have ZERO effect on you and me or anyone in eve for that matter.
This is no more "sad" than people using them as glorified freighters in 0.0.
(He actually has a REAL chance of losing his while NPCing at least.)
So I say... More power to him...
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Epsilon 1
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:55:00 -
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Carebears at it again. I warned you all that such thread will start showing up in 1-2 months time and looksee now
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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jbob2000
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.15 16:57:00 -
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My god, that setup is complete junk. Radioisotope hardeners? You can afford an 800mil fight, yet can't afford at least n-types (~5mil a piece)?
Go back to noob city.
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:18:00 -
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wow, just wow
apart the fact that your setup is complete crap and a 1 month old char could probably point you to a better fitting, i have to ask this:
you bought all the skills, the carrier itself + fighters and you use t1 stuff only?
barton reactor cap rechargers? wtf you can spend 1-2 bill isk on carrier/skills itself but you cant afford t2 cap rechargers?
hit the selfdestructbutton, plz, it will be faster and a lot less painful process for everyone involved, and then hit the biomasss recycling center
Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:19:00 -
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1 Large or Capital Remote Armor Repairer, 1 Drone Interface 1 Dread Guristas Cloak 1 True Sansha Large Smart Bomb
1 Shadow Serp. Signal Booster 1 28k scram 1 14km web ( web/scram to be changed for 35k officer mods asap ) 3 cap recharger IIs
2 Cap Armor reps 1 True Sansha Energized Nano 1 Internal Force Field Array I 1 darkblood cap relay
8 Einherji's, 8 Templars, Rest of space filled with a variety of medium IIs, Heavy Neut/ECM/Web/damp/MTSNBN drones.
Team Minmatar |
Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 17:20:00 -
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Be nice people... atleast he is flying it and not a thanatos!
Hail Minmatar!
Team Minmatar |
steveid
Penetrate
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Posted - 2006.07.15 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight Edited by: Hohenheim OfLight on 14/07/2006 12:24:56
Originally by: Aptenodytes If you've got the ISK and the skill points to buy a carrier, then you shouldn't really have a problem finding a decent NPC setup... how did you earn the isk to buy it and the skills required to fly it?
Try fitting a webber or 3, your fighters might have problems hitting frigates/cruisers otherwise. Get active hardeners. Fit nanofibers or WCS.
I spent a very very very very very very long time in a reteriver, then a = amount of very long time running lvl3's and wining competions on eve radio to get the isk.
i.e. it was his birthday and mommy bought it off ebay.
This ship screams for t2 / faction stuff. In all seriousness it really really will make a differance. Tbh i wouldn't fly one without it.
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SpaceCleaver
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.15 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: steveid
Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight Edited by: Hohenheim OfLight on 14/07/2006 12:24:56
Originally by: Aptenodytes If you've got the ISK and the skill points to buy a carrier, then you shouldn't really have a problem finding a decent NPC setup... how did you earn the isk to buy it and the skills required to fly it?
Try fitting a webber or 3, your fighters might have problems hitting frigates/cruisers otherwise. Get active hardeners. Fit nanofibers or WCS.
I spent a very very very very very very long time in a reteriver, then a = amount of very long time running lvl3's and wining competions on eve radio to get the isk.
i.e. it was his birthday and mommy bought it off ebay.
This ship screams for t2 / faction stuff. In all seriousness it really really will make a differance. Tbh i wouldn't fly one without it.
Oh stop it you don't even know the guy.
Hoh i know you've spent along time and alot of effort getting this, and your brain has prolly taken damage from all that mining, but you can do better
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Amthrianius
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:01:00 -
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Since the op clearly doesnt even know how to fit a rifter no doubt here:
5 DCU's (if you only have skill for 4 fit 4 and a 7.5km+ smartbomb, as if you have drones (as in players drones) attacking you, you cant align for warp as they bump you all the time.
5 cap rech 2's 1 sensor booster 2
1 of each apart from EM core x-type hardners (therm/kin/exp) dual capital rep ---------------
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 15/07/2006 21:25:01
Originally by: Keta Min setup police! kilrock flameage assistance requested!
Banned for 1 more day for trolling.. (1 week ban). Hmm, Nidhoggur has really ****ty cap. I wouldn't even try to run dual capital armor rep.
Kayliana. Do you use that setup? I don't mean to sound like someone that might say something along the lines of 'which system are you in?' but yea..
Hey, I fly the thanatos, I'm biased.
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