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Frankinator
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
Originally by: Aptenodytes I already suggested webbers, active hardeners, nanofibers and WCS. ;) Target Painters too. Errrr, what spawns are you having problems killing with your current setup?
none really, more concerd about the player kind, after such a huge time investment.
Oh yes, we're coming for you.
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Wicked Wisdom
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Frankinator
Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
Originally by: Aptenodytes I already suggested webbers, active hardeners, nanofibers and WCS. ;) Target Painters too. Errrr, what spawns are you having problems killing with your current setup?
none really, more concerd about the player kind, after such a huge time investment.
Oh yes, we're coming for you.
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Benglada
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.15 21:40:00 -
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ok, for one, YOUR USING PASSIVE HARDNERS ON A SHIP THAT COSTS A BILLION ISK, DUBBA TEE EFF? ---------------------------
Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
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Amthrianius
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.07.16 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 15/07/2006 21:25:01
Originally by: Keta Min setup police! kilrock flameage assistance requested!
Hmm, Nidhoggur has really ****ty cap. I wouldn't even try to run dual capital armor rep.
It does, allthough if it were neuted a bit it couldnt it just does it with 6 rechargers or with 5 but turning one rep off every 5 minutes for a cycle ---------------
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 16/07/2006 04:49:08
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 15/07/2006 21:25:01
Originally by: Keta Min setup police! kilrock flameage assistance requested!
Banned for 1 more day for trolling.. (1 week ban). Hmm, Nidhoggur has really ****ty cap. I wouldn't even try to run dual capital armor rep.
Kayliana. Do you use that setup? I don't mean to sound like someone that might say something along the lines of 'which system are you in?' but yea..
Hey, I fly the thanatos, I'm biased.
That is my current NPC setup minus one or 2 things... and it works fine. Dual Reps on a nidhoggur are only for short bursts as yes it does have a pretty small cap. Obviously the web and scram are there for PvP engagements if your ship can't get to a SS after local starts to fill up ( nothing like having your drones warp away after 1 ship while you are taking fire from more ).
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Foulis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 07:50:00 -
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How do you find the fighters work against BS spawns? And what are your lock times like? ----
Cake > Pie - Imaran
Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
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Tomsudy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Buraken v2 A true case of a complete and utter newbie trying to get the biggest ship ASAP
a sad day in eve
stfu
this guy has asked for help, atleast he has a carrier he shouldnt have to put up with ***** like you making comments like that in his thread ________________________________________
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 08:28:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 16/07/2006 08:28:17
Originally by: Tomsudy
Originally by: Buraken v2 A true case of a complete and utter newbie trying to get the biggest ship ASAP
a sad day in eve
stfu
this guy has asked for help, atleast he has a carrier he shouldnt have to put up with ***** like you making comments like that in his thread
Even if he invested time and money to train in it, if he doesn't know how to fly it effectivly, He pretty much bypassed all the learning curve you usually get, and valuable information you gain from not getting in these ships too quickly.
Geez, I don't know what's up lately, but i've been a smacking freak for a long time, and it's weird but it's alot more fun to put idiots back in their spot.
The guy has a point, And even tho he might be pointing the obvious in a crude way. He's right.
The forum is filled of those, and replies like yours too.
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2006.07.16 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight I am currently runing the following but dont feel like i am getting the best form her, any one go any other set ups they can share?
Low Slots
1 * radioisotope reflective membrane i em dmg resistance bonus -32,5 %
1 * voltaic nanite reactive membrane i explosive dmg resistance bonus -32,5 %
1 * microcell nanite thermic membrane i thermal dmg resistance bonus -32,5 %
2 * capital armor repairer i armor hp repaired 9600
Mid Slots
6 * barton reactor capacitor recharger i (I think they are barts the 18% ones.)
High slots
5 * heavy nosferatu i energy transfer amount 100
Sell it and start at the bottom ,buy a Tempest and NPC with that.
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Metropolis Princess
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Posted - 2006.07.16 09:42:00 -
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Edited by: Metropolis Princess on 16/07/2006 09:42:18
Some people take this game way too seriously. Do you even have a life outside eve?
The guy simply asked for help.
The day you start to pay his subscription fee's is the day you can start to tell him what to spend his isk on. If you have nothing constructive to post then why did you even bother? Was it to make yourselves look all big and clever? Well sorry but you did the complete opposite.... just shows how many cowards infest these boards waiting to take a cheap shot at someone who asked for help.
Grow up and get a life ffs.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.16 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Metropolis Princess Edited by: Metropolis Princess on 16/07/2006 09:42:18
Some people take this game way too seriously. Do you even have a life outside eve?
The guy simply asked for help.
The day you start to pay his subscription fee's is the day you can start to tell him what to spend his isk on. If you have nothing constructive to post then why did you even bother? Was it to make yourselves look all big and clever? Well sorry but you did the complete opposite.... just shows how many cowards infest these boards waiting to take a cheap shot at someone who asked for help.
Grow up and get a life ffs.
There's two things on this forum. People with a life, and people with a life and no idea what EVE community is like.
Guess which type you are? It doesn't take a geek with no life, depressed over his crappy looking face to insult a ****ty setup and a clueless muppet.
Next.
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2006.07.16 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Metropolis Princess Edited by: Metropolis Princess on 16/07/2006 09:42:18
Some people take this game way too seriously. Do you even have a life outside eve?
The guy simply asked for help.
The day you start to pay his subscription fee's is the day you can start to tell him what to spend his isk on. If you have nothing constructive to post then why did you even bother? Was it to make yourselves look all big and clever? Well sorry but you did the complete opposite.... just shows how many cowards infest these boards waiting to take a cheap shot at someone who asked for help.
Grow up and get a life ffs.
Well in my oint of viewn :
1-His setup sucks
2-He would better off with a tempest.
You call us cowards?We are trying to help,or do you want to see him bit*** that he lost his super carrier to 2 BS?And start moaning that eve is too hard?
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Metropolis Princess
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Posted - 2006.07.16 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
Originally by: Metropolis Princess Edited by: Metropolis Princess on 16/07/2006 09:42:18
Some people take this game way too seriously. Do you even have a life outside eve?
The guy simply asked for help.
The day you start to pay his subscription fee's is the day you can start to tell him what to spend his isk on. If you have nothing constructive to post then why did you even bother? Was it to make yourselves look all big and clever? Well sorry but you did the complete opposite.... just shows how many cowards infest these boards waiting to take a cheap shot at someone who asked for help.
Grow up and get a life ffs.
There's two things on this forum. People with a life, and people with a life and no idea what EVE community is like.
Guess which type you are? It doesn't take a geek with no life, depressed over his crappy looking face to insult a ****ty setup and a clueless muppet.
Next.
Unfortunatley geeks with no life are the only type of people who would bother to insult someone over how they choose to play a computer game
You just proved my point.
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Metropolis Princess
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Posted - 2006.07.16 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Metropolis Princess Edited by: Metropolis Princess on 16/07/2006 09:42:18
Some people take this game way too seriously. Do you even have a life outside eve?
The guy simply asked for help.
The day you start to pay his subscription fee's is the day you can start to tell him what to spend his isk on. If you have nothing constructive to post then why did you even bother? Was it to make yourselves look all big and clever? Well sorry but you did the complete opposite.... just shows how many cowards infest these boards waiting to take a cheap shot at someone who asked for help.
Grow up and get a life ffs.
Well in my oint of viewn :
1-His setup sucks
2-He would better off with a tempest.
You call us cowards?We are trying to help,or do you want to see him bit*** that he lost his super carrier to 2 BS?And start moaning that eve is too hard?
I was reffering more to posts like Buraken's and his ilk.
At least you offered some advice.
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Hohenheim OfLight
The MadKas Alliance Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.07.16 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Pesadel0
snip 1-His setup sucks
2-He would better off with a tempest.
You call us cowards?We are trying to help,or do you want to see him bit*** that he lost his super carrier to 2 BS?And start moaning that eve is too hard?
1 I already knew that, hence asking for help
2 I have a tempest or 3
AS for the rest of you go find dsome where else to troll, really if you have no advice about setups why are you even bothering to post?
Ps Nice to see you still playing frank, Inner space has not been the same with out you ----------------------------------------------
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voidvim
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 14:20:00 -
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I personal would look at dominix setup for level 4 missions as IMHO carrier are just dominix write large. I hope this helps
P.S. All theo the trolls on this thread are just plain rude, your post did come over as theo you brought the character and isk off of ebays (not that you did of course)
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Foulis How do you find the fighters work against BS spawns? And what are your lock times like?
Lock times are decent enough they dont bother me at all. I only kill BSs but if there are web/scramblers I will go for BS first while locking the others.
Fighters simply slaughter NPCs. Only thing that comes close is a really tricked out domi with BS 5, Drone Interfacing 5, and t2 drones. Ofc there are things to watch out for like 90km away spawns since you don't want to have your fighters MWD to 90km and then take 5 minutes to come back naturally asperated.
Overall its the reason why I don't mind NPCing to pay for my expensive PvP losses with my pilgrim pilot.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
1 I already knew that, hence asking for help
2 I have a tempest or 3
AS for the rest of you go find dsome where else to troll, really if you have no advice about setups why are you even bothering to post?
I am offering advice
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Kurtz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 19:19:00 -
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Your setup is in the thinking of a battleship sans turret and launcher slots. A carrier is a different type of ship altogether.
Rule number one with a carrier: A carrier never operates solo.
The ship is designed as a support platform. Use it like one. Carry ammo and refitments for your gang/corp in the hangers. Carry looting ships, tacklers, or replacement ships for your gang/corp in the ship hanger.
Gang/corp members can refit their ships next to you in space. This is a very powerful feature.
Carriers can operate gang support modules. Take advantage of that.
Carriers can use drone control modules. Use them.
Remaining high slots should be shield/armor/cap transfer modules.
Fit your mid slots to compliment your fighters/drones and your escorts. Target painters can reach farther than webbers, and are a Minmatar tactic.
Don't try and be a tackler.
A cloak is a good choice, but don't operate it whilst fighters are in space.
Capital modules take huge amounts cap to operate and cycle very slowly. They are not always the best option.
Avoid direct combat with PC's by using fighter delegation.
Carriers have huge drone bays. Don't just carry fighters. Carry a full wave of logistic drones, webbers, sentries, lights, mediums, and heavies. You'll still have room left over for a spare fighter or two.
Carriers can use regular drones in addition to fighters, and in the same amounts. They cannot delegate non fighters however.
Don't use the carrier to NPC hunt like a battleship. Use it like a command and control system. Stand off a bit, target paint, send drones down range, have gang mates take aggro from the NPC an then transfer cap/armor/shield to them.
Use your repair modules to repair drones that get damaged, and not just your own.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.16 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kurtz Rule number one with a carrier: A carrier never operates solo.
Learn to think outside of the Box.
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xEntriq
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Posted - 2006.07.17 07:09:00 -
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You spend 2bil on the ship + skills, and you fit less then 5mil worth of modules on the ship - nice.
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KilROCK
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: xEntriq You spend 2bil on the ship + skills, and you fit less then 5mil worth of modules on the ship - nice.
Ah, Hello. I'm KilROCK. Who might you be? Clueless poster #1238129831 i suppose.
Ah yes.
Quote: 2 * capital armor repairer i armor hp repaired 9600
Open your market mr.Clueless poster #1238129831 What's the price for those two? 45-55m Per unit? Ah yes, proven wrong.
Back in your hole unless you can post something that is original that wasn't already said without making a fool of your lack of brain.
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Ed Gein
Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.07.17 07:18:00 -
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*begins a light golf clap, and waits eagerly for kilrocks next sorting
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kurtz Your setup is in the thinking of a battleship sans turret and launcher slots. A carrier is a different type of ship altogether.
Rule number one with a carrier: A carrier never operates solo.
The ship is designed as a support platform. Use it like one. Carry ammo and refitments for your gang/corp in the hangers. Carry looting ships, tacklers, or replacement ships for your gang/corp in the ship hanger.
Gang/corp members can refit their ships next to you in space. This is a very powerful feature.
Carriers can operate gang support modules. Take advantage of that.
Carriers can use drone control modules. Use them.
Remaining high slots should be shield/armor/cap transfer modules.
Fit your mid slots to compliment your fighters/drones and your escorts. Target painters can reach farther than webbers, and are a Minmatar tactic.
Don't try and be a tackler.
A cloak is a good choice, but don't operate it whilst fighters are in space.
Capital modules take huge amounts cap to operate and cycle very slowly. They are not always the best option.
Avoid direct combat with PC's by using fighter delegation.
Carriers have huge drone bays. Don't just carry fighters. Carry a full wave of logistic drones, webbers, sentries, lights, mediums, and heavies. You'll still have room left over for a spare fighter or two.
Carriers can use regular drones in addition to fighters, and in the same amounts. They cannot delegate non fighters however.
Don't use the carrier to NPC hunt like a battleship. Use it like a command and control system. Stand off a bit, target paint, send drones down range, have gang mates take aggro from the NPC an then transfer cap/armor/shield to them.
Use your repair modules to repair drones that get damaged, and not just your own.
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Hohenheim OfLight
The MadKas Alliance Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.07.17 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight
1 I already knew that, hence asking for help
2 I have a tempest or 3
AS for the rest of you go find dsome where else to troll, really if you have no advice about setups why are you even bothering to post?
I am offering advice
Was not aimed at you at all, And thanks to Kurtz as well, and every one else for teh advice. Finding it very usfull. ----------------------------------------------
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Fogy
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kurtz Your setup is in the thinking of a battleship sans turret and launcher slots. A carrier is a different type of ship altogether.
Rule number one with a carrier: A carrier never operates solo.
The ship is designed as a support platform. Use it like one. Carry ammo and refitments for your gang/corp in the hangers. Carry looting ships, tacklers, or replacement ships for your gang/corp in the ship hanger.
Gang/corp members can refit their ships next to you in space. This is a very powerful feature.
Carriers can operate gang support modules. Take advantage of that.
Carriers can use drone control modules. Use them.
Remaining high slots should be shield/armor/cap transfer modules.
Fit your mid slots to compliment your fighters/drones and your escorts. Target painters can reach farther than webbers, and are a Minmatar tactic.
Don't try and be a tackler.
A cloak is a good choice, but don't operate it whilst fighters are in space.
Capital modules take huge amounts cap to operate and cycle very slowly. They are not always the best option.
Avoid direct combat with PC's by using fighter delegation.
Carriers have huge drone bays. Don't just carry fighters. Carry a full wave of logistic drones, webbers, sentries, lights, mediums, and heavies. You'll still have room left over for a spare fighter or two.
Carriers can use regular drones in addition to fighters, and in the same amounts. They cannot delegate non fighters however.
Don't use the carrier to NPC hunt like a battleship. Use it like a command and control system. Stand off a bit, target paint, send drones down range, have gang mates take aggro from the NPC an then transfer cap/armor/shield to them.
Use your repair modules to repair drones that get damaged, and not just your own.
Thats actualy the most constructive reply in this thread so far. what the op is asking for is a "solo" npc settup for his carrier. I¦ll presume you have a alt, that you use for cynoseral field¦s and stuff. gett that alt into a AF, BS, or whatever you fancy and dellegate your drones to him, place yourself at a GOOD ss and use your alt to do the npc¦ing bitt. (this is presuming you got a good enough comp to ruun 2 clients simultaniously, or 2 comps. (Window mode hellps alot with computer lagg))
Fitt it with remote armor, shield and cap transfers, and a cloak. all to suport your alt and fighters when needed. the rest of the slotts id sugest NOS (gett named ones) and/or a tractor beam (idea is when your alt¦s cargo is full of loot, you warp him to your carrier, just dropp the can where you come out of warp, and beam it into the carrier. all to give you less deadtime) swapp thous hardeners for active ones, or do the 2x EANMx2 + DCU (preferably the last one IMO, spechially if you got or after you gett thous armor hardening skills up)
Follow the tip above about filling your drone bay with suport drones, and such, newer know when they come handy.
as its been said lotts of times befor, the carrier isnt supost to be at the front of the battlefield, even if your NPC¦ing, you never know when your belt turns into a meyham of pirates or griefers wanting to hunt you down caus they know you got a carrier. and trust me.. there will be ppl looking for you.
This is the best i can come up with for "solo" carrier usage. and its the way i would have done it if i had one. Cheers! Fogy
GL HF, enjoy the carrier!
Cheers! Fogy "From my rotting boddy flowers shall grow and I am in them, and that is eternity"
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Hohenheim OfLight
The MadKas Alliance Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.07.17 14:33:00 -
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Yep after a few outings I found the nos usless really it was doing nothing. The tractor beam has been a gods send, I did try smart bombs at one point, but since the frig's changed orbiting to 5750k they usless to, prob going to push for capital remote shild rep next. ----------------------------------------------
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Kasak Black
133rd Ghost Wing Stain- Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.17 15:06:00 -
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Hoh mate, hows it going. Gotta say thats one crazy setup right there.
You must have been smoking something eh, some peeps have posted good setups though, have a play with those.
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Hohenheim OfLight
The MadKas Alliance Vanu Space Command
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Posted - 2006.07.17 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kasak Black Hoh mate, hows it going. Gotta say thats one crazy setup right there.
You must have been smoking something eh, some peeps have posted good setups though, have a play with those.
lol, dude ofc i am krazzy i spent 6 months in a retiver mining the misn for a byob ----------------------------------------------
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TuRtLe HeAd
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.07.18 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min setup police! kilrock flameage assistance requested!
So True !
PAssive resists bad on carrier, and Lots Of NOS ? Its shocking, just too shocking to mention.
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