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Bo0nTard
Shadow Legion X The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.08.07 09:23:00 -
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I do not understand the concept of blitzing lvl 4 missions for LP. Some of them argue, Getting Loot + salvage + bounties + LP is good income rather than just LP. How does one do this ? If my agent continously gives me a non blitzable mission, and if i keep on declining it, i will not be able to get mission from that agent again. How do you guys manage it?
Those people who blitz i have few quiestions, 1. How many agents are needed so that you blitz? 2. How many missions you blitz in a day ? or per hour stats ? 3. Do you do it with one char or multiple chars ? 4. How do you manage to do missiosn in 0.5 systems, Most of the missions will be on low sec space. Were you not get ganked during that time ? will it now slow your mission running time ?
I have a rattlesnake/Tengu Toon + a Vindicator Toon + mach (Low Skill) Toon. i want to get good amount of ISK/HR to support my PVP activities.
What i have planned is to locate a system with 2 lvl4 mission agent, Use all the 3 toons to grab totally 6 Missions. Complete it then Loot + salvage + bounties + LP. I am hoping, i should get an average of 60-70m per hr with this setup. Earlier,i was doing ratting in nullsec. Loosing ships so often made me to look for other opportunities.
Can some one write a detailed Guide on how to Blitz and what all missions to blitz? This will be really helpful.
Thanks. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1071
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Posted - 2014.08.07 10:27:00 -
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Bo0nTard wrote:I do not understand the concept of blitzing lvl 4 missions for LP. Some of them argue, Getting Loot + salvage + bounties + LP is good income rather than just LP. How does one do this ? If my agent continously gives me a non blitzable mission, and if i keep on declining it, i will not be able to get mission from that agent again. How do you guys manage it?
Those people who blitz i have few quiestions, 1. How many agents are needed so that you blitz? 2. How many missions you blitz in a day ? or per hour stats ? 3. Do you do it with one char or multiple chars ? 4. How do you manage to do missiosn in 0.5 systems, Most of the missions will be on low sec space. Were you not get ganked during that time ? will it now slow your mission running time ? 5. Some people blitz lvl 3 missions. is it profitable ?
I have a rattlesnake/Tengu Toon + a Vindicator Toon + mach (Low Skill) Toon. i want to get good amount of ISK/HR to support my PVP activities.
What i have planned is to locate a system with 2 lvl4 mission agent, Use all the 3 toons to grab totally 6 Missions. Complete it then Loot + salvage + bounties + LP. I am hoping, i should get an average of 60-70m per hr with this setup. Earlier,i was doing ratting in nullsec. Loosing ships so often made me to look for other opportunities.
Can some one write a detailed Guide on how to Blitz and what all missions to blitz? This will be really helpful.
Thanks.
Depends what you mean by blitz. Some people just mean ignore loot and salvage and kill the minimum number of ships to get mission complete. Other people will burn faction standing to reject any mission they cannot complete in minimal time.
Most important thing is to locate corps with high ISK/LP ratios.
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Heinrich Erquilenne
Foundation Cutting-Edge Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.08.07 12:00:00 -
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Here are a few tips:
Never decline two missions in a row. If you don't get what you want it's fine. Most missions are worth doing them, few of them are truly a PITA and under rewarding. Sacrificing a good agent is never worth it. Never. Read "good" as in a 0.5 if you're a highsec addict. Also good corp & agent standings will give you better missions with improved rewards provided you're close to the max standings. At least in null, it does.
Always check eve-survival until you know how every single mission works.
Some missions give poor wrecks: don't wait for your MTU to loot everything. You'll know which missions aren't worth that waiting time after a couple of months of mission running. On the other hand some have awesome loots and are definitely worth the afk-cloaky wait while the MTU sucks every piece of ISK out there.
Pirate NPCs may be worth the time required to kill them. Blitz all the missions with faction NPCs you can if the mission can be blitz or decline them if they can't be blitzed if you're not out of your 4h timer. Dogtags are **** and not worth the effort with such a huge drawback like faction standing losses.
Don't use a fat, slow, battleship when you want to loot stuff. Use a T2 cruiser (Isthars are popular but cerberus works fine too), drop the MTU near the centre of gravity of spawns and run away at sniping range with your MWD. It will save you a lot of time when you want to loot.
Also, be smart and work for at least two corps with a high isk/lp value. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2117
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Posted - 2014.08.07 13:16:00 -
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Bo0nTard wrote:I do not understand the concept of blitzing lvl 4 missions for LP. Some of them argue, Getting Loot + salvage + bounties + LP is good income rather than just LP. How does one do this ? If my agent continously gives me a non blitzable mission, and if i keep on declining it, i will not be able to get mission from that agent again. How do you guys manage it?
Those people who blitz i have few quiestions, 1. How many agents are needed so that you blitz? 2. How many missions you blitz in a day ? or per hour stats ? 3. Do you do it with one char or multiple chars ? 4. How do you manage to do missiosn in 0.5 systems, Most of the missions will be on low sec space. Were you not get ganked during that time ? will it now slow your mission running time ? 5. Some people blitz lvl 3 missions. is it profitable ?
I have a rattlesnake/Tengu Toon + a Vindicator Toon + mach (Low Skill) Toon. i want to get good amount of ISK/HR to support my PVP activities.
What i have planned is to locate a system with 2 lvl4 mission agent, Use all the 3 toons to grab totally 6 Missions. Complete it then Loot + salvage + bounties + LP. I am hoping, i should get an average of 60-70m per hr with this setup. Earlier,i was doing ratting in nullsec. Loosing ships so often made me to look for other opportunities.
Can some one write a detailed Guide on how to Blitz and what all missions to blitz? This will be really helpful.
Thanks.
1. one is enough, as long as you have good faction standings. more won't hurt though. 2. depending on the ship you fly and which missions you run and where, you can get over 50000 LP/hour, so around 10 missions/hour is a good estimate. 3. do whatever you feel comfortable with. multiboxing obviously increases ISK/hour, but it also increases :effort: 4. do not run missions in lowsec, except the ones you can finish in a frigate. the fraction of offered missions that lead to lowsec is different for every agent and every character. for example, i have two chars running for the same agent in amarr space. one of them gets ~50% lowsec missions, the other one only ~10%. there are also lvl4 agents with no nearby lowsec. 5. meh. lvl3 payouts are just too low to be competitive, but you can push it to ~50m/hour if you optimize for travel speed and LP conversion.
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Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.08.07 17:24:00 -
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I'm not sure if what I'm doing can be considered blitzing. I do them in relatively non rushed manner but I do not hang around for the loot. I do about 5..7 per hour getting on average approx 20k LP/h. I do decline missions which I do not like until I hit 4h timer and then I'll just do whatever is offered until I log (or go do something else). I have multiple accounts so I do usually get to pick some good ones to do between my accounts. Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
29
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:15:00 -
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Blitzing for LP in lvl 4 missions ain't a bad idea since the implants for 86.000 LP and 86 million isk can be sold for somewhat 140 million isk in Jita, Amarr, Rens and whatever the Gallente hub is called. |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
773
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:22:00 -
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1. Depends on if you run just one account or multiple. The best thing to do is find a place with 3 / 4 agents within a couple of jumps that you can use (having standings to all factions can help this a lot). Being able to pull missions from two or more characters from all those agents means you almost never have a 4 hour lockout. 2. Depends if doing other things at the same time that need me to dock and pay attention, guess it averages out at about 8 an hour. 3. Dual boxed usually. 4. The agents most often send you to systems in the same constellation (storyline agents seem to work differently though). Try to find a spot where the low sec isn't in the same constellation and only a small percentage of your missions should go there, so declining those doesn't hurt timers too much. Also some corporations have better LP stores so an agent for a good corp in a 0.6 or 0.7 for instance can be better than an agent in a 0.5 with a bad store for LP conversion. 5. No, but L3's are great for building standings fast though.
If you only run one character, consider a corp which has more than one L4 agent in a station as well, places like Sasoutikh, Ichoriya etc. (ofc they won't have the same LP conversion possibilities as an SOE store for example). Or if you really want to avoid low sec there's places like Kador where you can run missions in 0.6-0.8 space and never see low sec. |
cpt Niki
Pwn 'N Play Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.08.08 08:40:00 -
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first of all search search and search.
http://eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=10000016&Corporation=-&Faction=500001&Division=24&Level=4&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=-&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0
this is the caldari faction agents in lonetrek region as you can see you have Isinokka 1 LvL 4 Oipo 2 LvL 4 Haajinen 2 LvL 4 Piak 1 LvL 4 Ibura 1 LvL 4 Torrinos 3 LvL 4
so in a pocket with 7 systems you have 10 agents that can give you missions. in 3 accounts meaning that you can take 30 missions pick the easy ones farm some other for the bounties every DT make your plan get your standings up for the corporations the agents belong and start the farming.
and! for the decline thing. the agent will give you missions as long as you have faction / corporation standings and agent not below -2 as I recall
e.g. an agent needs 4.0 standings to talk to you, if you have faction or corp standings 4.0 the agent will talk to you till you decline missions and drop below that or the agent standing drop below -2.
have a nice farming day my friend. |
Bo0nTard
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:37:00 -
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cpt Niki wrote:first of all search search and search. http://eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=10000016&Corporation=-&Faction=500001&Division=24&Level=4&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=-&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0this is the caldari faction agents in lonetrek region as you can see you have Isinokka 1 LvL 4 Oipo 2 LvL 4 Haajinen 2 LvL 4 Piak 1 LvL 4 Ibura 1 LvL 4 Torrinos 3 LvL 4 so in a pocket with 7 systems you have 10 agents that can give you missions. in 3 accounts meaning that you can take 30 missions pick the easy ones farm some other for the bounties every DT make your plan get your standings up for the corporations the agents belong and start the farming. and! for the decline thing. the agent will give you missions as long as you have faction / corporation standings and agent not below -2 as I recall e.g. an agent needs 4.0 standings to talk to you, if you have faction or corp standings 4.0 the agent will talk to you till you decline missions and drop below that or the agent standing drop below -2. have a nice farming day my friend.
Useful Info :) THanks :) |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
443
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:49:00 -
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Heinrich Erquilenne wrote: Dogtags are **** and not worth the effort with such a huge drawback like faction standing losses.
Not true. Dogtags can be very profitable depending on what mission it is and where you sell them. With the influx of the new faction drone mods, tags have gone up on price for Gallente and Amarr tags. |
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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
371
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Posted - 2014.08.08 18:40:00 -
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Your best bet is to do a mix of blitz, cherry picking, full clears.
Different ships and setups do better in each area.
Examples: Mach for blitz Mauraders for cherry picking. Rattlesnake / Noctis combo for full clear. ^^^ These are my top choices for each way to do a mission ^^^^
You could use your Tengu as a blitz ship as well. It's a top 5 blitz ship.
Each mission has a best version for isk per hour ratio.
You'll want two L4 agents within a jump of each other. If you can add more to the Mix even better. (( 4 is plenty! ))
Use the map to check that no low sec is within 2 jumps of your mission location if you want to avoid low sec. (( 3 Jumps is even better! ))
Run with the group that runs the trade hub you work at if you like to trade while in warp. I highly recommend it and it can add a ton of isk per hour.
If you are pure combat look for groups with the best LP to Isk conversion ratio. |
stoicfaux
5250
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Posted - 2014.08.08 19:39:00 -
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Bo0nTard wrote: Those people who blitz i have few quiestions, 1. How many agents are needed so that you blitz? 2. How many missions you blitz in a day ? or per hour stats ? 3. Do you do it with one char or multiple chars ? 4. How do you manage to do missiosn in 0.5 systems, Most of the missions will be on low sec space. Were you not get ganked during that time ? will it now slow your mission running time ? 5. Some people blitz lvl 3 missions. is it profitable ?
1. One. If you can get more than one in a station, then you're doing swell. 2. IIRC, Mach was average ~9m per mission, Vargur ~10m. (You'll want to use a frigate for really quick missions such as Recon 1-3) 3. One char. 4. Either pick a .5 that's 2+ jumps away from low-sec (you'll want to decline missions that are 2+ jumps away.) 5. Yes. ~80M with a Mach. YMMV. 6. Yes, travel time is important. IIRC, missions spawn within 4AU a planet. So try to pick agents in a small system with stargates that are close by. Also, gun boats tend to be better than missile boats because guns boats can use the #6 slot warp speed implant and/or warp speed rigs. (However, if you have a full set of Ascendancy implants, then you'll still want to go with gunboats unless you really need the damage flexibility of missiles.) 7. Yes, you can decline multiple missions per 4 hour block *if* your faction standings are high enough to let you run level 4s.
Quote:I have a rattlesnake/Tengu Toon + a Vindicator Toon + mach (Low Skill) Toon. i want to get good amount of ISK/HR to support my PVP activities. Tengu isn't worth it unless you are missioning in low-sec (although it's great for blitzing Buzzkill and good at blitzing Damsel.) Rattlesnake is good except for the slow warp speed and being stationary due to to sentries. MWD Mach is excellent. Vindi is probably mediocre due to rails and slow warp speed. You'll want a fast frigate for Recon 1-3 and Cargo Delivery.
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1164
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Posted - 2014.08.09 17:23:00 -
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Bo0nTard wrote:I do not understand the concept of blitzing lvl 4 missions for LP. Some of them argue, Getting Loot + salvage + bounties + LP is good income rather than just LP. How does one do this ? If my agent continously gives me a non blitzable mission, and if i keep on declining it, i will not be able to get mission from that agent again. How do you guys manage it?
Those people who blitz i have few quiestions, 1. How many agents are needed so that you blitz? 2. How many missions you blitz in a day ? or per hour stats ? 3. Do you do it with one char or multiple chars ? 4. How do you manage to do missiosn in 0.5 systems, Most of the missions will be on low sec space. Were you not get ganked during that time ? will it now slow your mission running time ? 5. Some people blitz lvl 3 missions. is it profitable ?
I have a rattlesnake/Tengu Toon + a Vindicator Toon + mach (Low Skill) Toon. i want to get good amount of ISK/HR to support my PVP activities.
What i have planned is to locate a system with 2 lvl4 mission agent, Use all the 3 toons to grab totally 6 Missions. Complete it then Loot + salvage + bounties + LP. I am hoping, i should get an average of 60-70m per hr with this setup. Earlier,i was doing ratting in nullsec. Loosing ships so often made me to look for other opportunities.
Can some one write a detailed Guide on how to Blitz and what all missions to blitz? This will be really helpful.
Thanks.
You're asking about blitzing but describing completing/looting as your intended method. If you're cherry picking (full missions)its still pretty easy to get 80 mil an hour in a mach + salvager in a .8 or below, no need for .5. This opens up a lot of options for agents.
Blitzing is running the missions for LP and rewards only. As quick as you can, as many per hour as you can get, as close as possible.
With 3 toons you will be able to get all the blitzing or all the looting missions you want.
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