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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3415
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:02:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: There are many ways to reduce drastically the ridiculous level of power projection that exists in the game today, and reopen null sec to many more player groups.
But none will be implemented because they will hurt the cartels.
Oh, you are still here. And I had wondered if you gotten banned after CCP Falcon slapped you down last time.
Shrug....
Has happened before, will likely happen again.
Bottom line, you and the other propagandists can insult me all you like, or derail a thread, or batphone a friendly ISD / community manager to stifle the dissent on the forums against the direction of Eve and CCP. But you have no control against the rising tide (or more accurately, the receding tide) of people dropping subs.
So insult away.
One day, some group of investors in CCP are going to tire of the losses, and pull the plug on the current management at CCP, and then we will see the changes necessary to try to turn around the Titanic that Eve has become. The only question is will they step in quickly enough to save the game and CCP. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9506
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:04:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: But you have no control against the rising tide (or more accurately, the receding tide) of people dropping subs.
Citation needed. And not some dumbass concurrency stats that you cherrypicked, either.
Quote:and then we will see the changes necessary to try to turn around the Titanic that Eve has become. The only question is will they step in quickly enough to save the game and CCP.
Oh, please elaborate. I would be very interested to hear what you think are the "changes necessary" to save the game. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6013
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:09:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Bottom line, you and the other propagandists can insult me all you like, or derail a thread, or batphone a friendly ISD / community manager to stifle the dissent on the forums against the direction of Eve and CCP..
Comedy gold. You just cannot make this stuff up. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2200
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:09:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: How do you stop us dumping the fabled 1000 Megathron fleet on your head?
Considering how much you're managing to bore your avg member, you'll be happy getting just 100 soon.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6013
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:13:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:baltec1 wrote: How do you stop us dumping the fabled 1000 Megathron fleet on your head?
Considering how much you're managing to bore your avg member, you'll be happy getting just 100 soon.
Yes because CFC members are deeply concerned about the lack of elite pvp. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3416
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:baltec1 wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:except the primary aim of increasing jump fuel requirements was to increase the market for ice products. Ah, I was confused when the devs stated otherwise at fanfest an on the forums. That was just to try and keep some people happy about the change. Anyone who knows their stuff will know that you cant nerf power projection. There are many ways to reduce drastically the ridiculous level of power projection that exists in the game today, and reopen null sec to many more player groups. But none will be implemented because they will hurt the cartels. How do you stop us dumping the fabled 1000 Megathron fleet on your head?
Gee, I dunno...let me think for second how I could stop 1000 Mega's traversing the galaxy in a couple minutes.
How about a few things, for starters:
1. Bye bye POS based jump bridges. 2. Triple the distance between star systems. 3. Introduce a mechanism that the more ships / mass that are jumped into a system there is a sliding scale that increases the risk of ships not jumping, jumping into the wrong system, or being destroyed in transit. 4. Introduce a limitation on how many ships a Titan can jump. 5. Every time a Titan bridges, it will automatically jump with the fleet. 6. To fire up a bridge with a Titan at one end requires a Titan at the other end of the bridge.
But like I said, not a chance any of these changes to the game mechanisms will occur. Not a chance the cartels will let them pass. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3416
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:21:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: But you have no control against the rising tide (or more accurately, the receding tide) of people dropping subs. Citation needed. And not some dumbass concurrency stats that you cherrypicked, either. Quote:and then we will see the changes necessary to try to turn around the Titanic that Eve has become. The only question is will they step in quickly enough to save the game and CCP. Oh, please elaborate. I would be very interested to hear what you think are the "changes necessary" to save the game.
You know what?
Not really interested in answering your troll crap. I just listened to some Marvin Gaye, answered an oh so easy question from a goon, and am just not bothered to respond to you. If you can't read an income statement, not much any of us can do for you.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9507
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:21:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: 3. Introduce a mechanism that the more ships / mass that are jumped into a system there is a sliding scale that increases the risk of ships not jumping, jumping into the wrong system, or being destroyed in transit.
This kind of thing is why you are not taken seriously.
"Hey guys, you should have to deal with RNG randomly destroying you, no fortitude save, because Dinsdale hates nullsec."
No **** it won't ever happen, and it's not because some mythical "cartels" won't let it happen. It won't happen because it's a damned terrible idea. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9507
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Posted - 2014.09.03 06:24:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: But you have no control against the rising tide (or more accurately, the receding tide) of people dropping subs. Citation needed. And not some dumbass concurrency stats that you cherrypicked, either. Quote:and then we will see the changes necessary to try to turn around the Titanic that Eve has become. The only question is will they step in quickly enough to save the game and CCP. Oh, please elaborate. I would be very interested to hear what you think are the "changes necessary" to save the game. You know what? Not really interested in answering your troll crap. I just listened to some Marvin Gaye, answered an oh so easy question from a goon, and am just not bothered to respond to you. If you can't read an income statement, not much any of us can do for you.
Yeah, I thought not.
If you actually had any stats to back up your "EVE is dying because the casuals are quitting because cyber bullying and cartels!" narrative, you'd be spamming it like crazy.
But you don't, so you're not. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
318
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Posted - 2014.09.03 07:41:00 -
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Look, arguing with Dinsdale is like arguing with a brick wall, difference being that wall gives you better answers. |
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Good Posting
Posting with my Mind
190
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Posted - 2014.09.03 08:01:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:5. Every time a Titan bridges, it will automatically jump with the fleet.
That would create many hilarious situations because usually many f1 monkeys miss the bridge and have to wait for another one. Not going to happen tho, and to be honest that would be unfair for the Titan owner.
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
518
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Posted - 2014.09.03 08:06:00 -
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Good Posting wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:5. Every time a Titan bridges, it will automatically jump with the fleet. That would create many hilarious situations because usually many f1 monkeys miss the bridge and have to wait for another one. Not going to happen tho, and to be honest that would be unfair for the Titan owner.
Or they could get rid of the foolish, combat breaking cap drain for using your own damn Jump Drive. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
688
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Posted - 2014.09.03 09:28:00 -
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Jump fuel change from my perspective was aweful.
Big groups can probably just afford to absorb the cost whereas smaller groups or individuals are less likely to be able to.
Change it back to be honest. Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
688
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Posted - 2014.09.03 09:30:00 -
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Good Posting wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:5. Every time a Titan bridges, it will automatically jump with the fleet. That would create many hilarious situations because usually many f1 monkeys miss the bridge and have to wait for another one. Not going to happen tho, and to be honest that would be unfair for the Titan owner.
Or just remove titan bridges. They are the most boring PVP mechanic in the game - even more than ECM. At least with ECM you're in an actual fight doing something.
Who the hell actually enjoys sitting on a Titan? Seriously, the first time ever is kinda cool because you're thinking "oh wow a massive titan" but after that it's pretty-much the worst PVP game-play you can get.
Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6017
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Posted - 2014.09.03 09:31:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Look, arguing with Dinsdale is like arguing with a brick wall, difference being that wall gives you better answers.
The wall isn't as amusing though. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12959
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Posted - 2014.09.03 11:25:00 -
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Quote: Gee, I dunno...let me think for second how I could stop 1000 Mega's traversing the galaxy in a couple minutes.
How about a few things, for starters:
1. Bye bye POS based jump bridges. 2. Triple the distance between star systems. 3. Introduce a mechanism that the more ships / mass that are jumped into a system there is a sliding scale that increases the risk of ships not jumping, jumping into the wrong system, or being destroyed in transit. 4. Introduce a limitation on how many ships a Titan can jump. 5. Every time a Titan bridges, it will automatically jump with the fleet. 6. To fire up a bridge with a Titan at one end requires a Titan at the other end of the bridge.
But like I said, not a chance any of these changes to the game mechanisms will occur. Not a chance the cartels will let them pass.
You do realise that we can pre load a system with your idea and make it impossible to deploy against us right?
Nothing stops us from useing our 1000 megathrons with your ideas. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8016
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Posted - 2014.09.03 13:18:00 -
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Hey Dinsdale, lets make a lopsided trade because you were right all along.
We, the denizens of null sec, will trade you, the good people of honorable high sec, all of our bots, our moons, our RMTing BMW buying websites, our jump bridges, jump capable ships and isk making activities. As bonuses we will not only hand over the vicious dictator known as "The Mittani" for trial at the Interstellar Court of Human Rights in Jita, but we will make all of the null sec controlled CCP DEVs quit and go work for Riot Games (oh wait, they already did that last part, never mind).
You just have to give us one small thing in return. One tiny, inconsequential thing you won't even miss.
High Sec gives up CONCORD. That simple and we'll call it Even Steven.
Fair trade, no? |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
401
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Posted - 2014.09.03 13:32:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Hey Dinsdale, lets make a lopsided trade because you were right all along.
We, the denizens of null sec, will trade you, the good people of honorable high sec, all of our bots, our moons, our RMTing BMW buying websites, our jump bridges, jump capable ships and isk making activities. As bonuses we will not only hand over the vicious dictator known as "The Mittani" for trial at the Interstellar Court of Human Rights in Jita, but we will make all of the null sec controlled CCP DEVs quit and go work for Riot Games (oh wait, they already did that last part, never mind).
You just have to give us one small thing in return. One tiny, inconsequential thing you won't even miss.
High Sec gives up CONCORD. That simple and we'll call it Even Steven.
Fair trade, no?
Only if you can't lock up people in highsec he might agree. |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5520
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Posted - 2014.09.03 14:40:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:What would you like me to say? PCU is way down. CCP 1st half 2014 gross income was down 200K u.s., and that was post dual training, pre-Crius.
Half a percent a year. Oh my. EvE is going to die in 200 years abandon ship! "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
396
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:29:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: But you have no control against the rising tide (or more accurately, the receding tide) of people dropping subs. Citation needed. And not some dumbass concurrency stats that you cherrypicked, either.
Yeah Im not seeing the massive nosedive that Dins makes it sound like.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Quote:THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
396
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:39:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
How about a few things, for starters:
1. Bye bye POS based jump bridges. 2. Triple the distance between star systems. 3. Introduce a mechanism that the more ships / mass that are jumped into a system there is a sliding scale that increases the risk of ships not jumping, jumping into the wrong system, or being destroyed in transit. 4. Introduce a limitation on how many ships a Titan can jump. 5. Every time a Titan bridges, it will automatically jump with the fleet. 6. To fire up a bridge with a Titan at one end requires a Titan at the other end of the bridge.
But like I said, not a chance any of these changes to the game mechanisms will occur. Not a chance the cartels will let them pass.
DUDE!
Man, me and mine dont play on the same level as those who would most be affected by these ideas, but even I can see how terribad some of those suggestions are.
#1, idk, I'll just go with no?
#2, not so bad imo.
#3, sure, so if we want to safeguard our system from attack, me and the boys just need to roll it like a wh so that nobody else can get in without taking a huge risk. Didn't think this one thru, did ya?
4. not so bad, kinda maybe?
Now the real wtf moment happens at numbers 5 and 6. Thats just some of the worst ideas Ive ever seen. It's even worse than Kung Fu Pandas.
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1231
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:40:00 -
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What happened near the end of 2011 since the overall graph put us around that level? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5378
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:42:00 -
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Spaceman Jack wrote:"Will make things harder for people, and reduce power projection." - CCP
From the recent WH dev-blog
"Now with the benefits of hindsight this prediction appears amusingly naive. Ingenious players have quite easily overcome any and all challenges and created an entire society within this uniquely hostile environment." - CCP
Sound familiar?
Malcanis' Law comes to mind.... Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1231
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Posted - 2014.09.03 18:30:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Spaceman Jack wrote:"Will make things harder for people, and reduce power projection." - CCP
From the recent WH dev-blog
"Now with the benefits of hindsight this prediction appears amusingly naive. Ingenious players have quite easily overcome any and all challenges and created an entire society within this uniquely hostile environment." - CCP
Sound familiar? Malcanis' Law comes to mind....
CCP never said such power projection "nerf" was supposed to benefit new player/smaller organisation. Malcanis law only only if your goal was to make it easier for new player. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11388
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:49:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Or they could get rid of the foolish, combat breaking cap drain for using your own damn Jump Drive. It really doesn't make that much of a difference, and besides if you removed jump cap you could move titans and supers with near perfect safety, not to mention moving capital ships in general would become much faster. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11388
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:51:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:What happened near the end of 2011 since the overall graph put us around that level? Incarna happened in June. Crucible was in November, but many people had already left due to the fiasco. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1297
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Posted - 2014.09.03 22:11:00 -
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Sadly, no matter how badly you nerf power projection short removing ability to leave any system ever, having more friends will always mean you have an advantage.
So what it really comes down to is convincing those guys that your side is the best. "Come join [insert group here] we have kittens!"
That's how the real world tends to work. Even within the groups themselves (I'm looking at you, Un-named political system). |
Blobskillz McBlub
Manson Family Advent of Fate
16
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:15:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:What happened near the end of 2011 since the overall graph put us around that level? Incarna happened in June. Crucible was in November, but many people had already left due to the fiasco.
what happened with Incarna that so many people left? |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5527
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:22:00 -
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Blobskillz McBlub wrote:what happened with Incarna that so many people left?
Space Barbie, :18months:, etc "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11388
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:34:00 -
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Blobskillz McBlub wrote:what happened with Incarna that so many people left? It was a combination of development focus having strayed away from the core of the game (spaceships), a very limited implementation of WiS (only one of the CQs was implemented, Amarr IIRC) considering the amount of time it took to release the expansion, ridiculously overpriced vanity items, and a leaked internal memo advocating the expansion of microtransactions into "pay to win" territory. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
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