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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:52:00 -
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Read more in www.minerbumping.com!
Quote: Of course, most freighters aren't empty. The whole point of a freighter is that it's packed with stuff. Take, for instance, this 10 billion isk jump freighter. The owner didn't have a permit, so he lost a ship worth over 1,000 times the permit's cost. It would have been sensible to buy a permit if there was even one-tenth of a one percent chance of averting the gank. To put it another way, if there was a 99.9% chance that the permit wouldn't prevent the gank, it still would have made sense to get the permit.
This man really 'gets' the philosophy of EVE, in far more depth than the DEVs themselves.
Much in the same way Red Letter Media 'got' Star Wars far better than its creator, George Lucas.
Devs catch lightning in a bottle, but turn out to be clueless about their own creation. People like J315 come along and do their level best to educate them - if only they would listen.
Highly excellent blog post all the way around. Bravo.
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
259
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Posted - 2014.08.10 04:06:00 -
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Uh huuuuuuuuuuuuuh. You don't say. http://www.thecoffeerocks.com Twitter: @thecoffeerocks |-áSteam: CoffeeRocks-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=327221 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.08.10 04:16:00 -
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Hahaha, ah, never not get ganked with way too much stuff ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2014.08.10 04:33:00 -
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James is being a pirate in an extortion racket on the one hand (a well done racket too and well within the rules) but on the other hand, he's doing something that people stopped doing a long time ago, and hence the result he gets now.
And thing that people stopped doing was, they stopped honoring ransoms.
So in the end, all they are doing is ransoming and honoring it. Back in the days of yor, when I had a mullet, most pirates honored ransoms. Some even survived on them and as it never was a huge fountain of ISK to begin with, they had to work hard to survive on them. I do recall some cases of forcing players to eject. (Stealing a ship - now that's pirate!)
But by 2008, it was common knowledge that pirates did not honor ransoms or the chance of it being honored was low, such that paying one was merely more milking before the gank you got anyway. This happened for 2 reasons (by my observation): - The killboards only know "ISK destroyed" and there's no mechanic for "ISK ransomed/commandeered" as any measure for a lowsec pirate. The proliferation of the importance of "stats" (parallel to the obsession with ISK in highsec) and no way to track other-than-kill exploits made ransoming somewhat en-creditable. - A lowering of player standards. When someone wanted to call themselves pirate, they acted like a pirate or some loose suggestion (per the pirate code - note "Code" - get it?) if pirate and so killing was not priority one. Robbing players who should have known better (but I used to fly a rookie ship through Amamake BEFORE WTZ and never got ganked) and/or who had much to lose (and should have known better) was priority. But that kind of player was eventually replaced by the player who killed everything that moved followed with a barrage of "LOLFAIL NEWBFHAG BOOM HEADSH0Y GBTW!". And that came AFTER paying a ransom. So people decided not to pay ransoms.
Combined with the rollplaying aspect of CODE. and what specifically they are doing, even a highsec sperglord like myself has to agree with the OP. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Mira Robinson
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Posted - 2014.08.10 04:51:00 -
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So people who enjoyed the SW prequels = carebears and bot-aspirants?
Give me a break.
Eve is what you make it, just as Star Wars is what you make it. James is no better than Chribba, Helicity, Ripard, or CCP, just as these "Red Letter Media" guys are no better than you, me, or Lucas.
Oh, sorry, I forgot there was only ONE way to play Eve.
Here's the best way to look at it.
If you undock, prepare to die. Anything else, consider a blessing. Earlier today, the Dixon Mining Guild and the Butz Manufacturing Corporation formed a coalition.
It's hard to tell if there is a light at the end of the tunnel for the Dixon-Butz Alliance. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.08.10 04:54:00 -
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Mira Robinson wrote: James is no better than Chribba, Helicity, Ripard,
Woah there. That's just taking it too far. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.08.10 05:27:00 -
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James 315 is Our Savior ( yours and mine ) and you should show him the respect he deserves, this is not extortion racket it is a CODE. To live by, the words of truth and justice, honor and patriotism, James 315 took the plunge into the muck with his bare hands in an attempt to pull what was left of high sec from the filth, and having dipped his hands in the foul waters, he pulled them out clean and molded high sec into something beautiful which we strive to continue and maintain every day.
Support our CODE. and become a catalyst of change for a greater good.
And it would do you well to remember its not piracy if your not wearing an eye patch Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
157
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:23:00 -
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First off, if you travel through Uedema with that much cargo then you probably deserve a gank.
Second, if 10mil/yr was really the only thing you had to do then I might buy into this extortion racket. But as I recall (and perhaps I recall incorrectly), purchasing a permit also requires you to put some goofy tagline in your bio about how you support CODE. So, what pricetag do you put on a principle? Probably more than 10mil. |
Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
109
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:11:00 -
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Mira Robinson wrote:So people who enjoyed the SW prequels = carebears and bot-aspirants?
Give me a break.
Eve is what you make it, just as Star Wars is what you make it. James is no better than Chribba, Helicity, Ripard, or CCP, just as these "Red Letter Media" guys are no better than you, me, or Lucas.
Oh, sorry, I forgot there was only ONE way to play Eve.
Here's the best way to look at it.
If you undock, prepare to die. Anything else, consider a blessing.
Pretty much agree with the fact that James315 is no better than anybody else, if I ever cross paths one day with him, quaranteed he'll "See The LIGHT"!!
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Arcelian
Metentis
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:16:00 -
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This CODE thing is getting annoying. It's just like Justin Beiber, I don't want to know anything about it, but everywhere I look it's forced down my throat.
It's like some kind of sick cult. Drink the kool-aid already. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8669
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:18:00 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote: Pretty much agree with the fact that James315 is no better than anybody else, if I ever cross paths one day with him, quaranteed he'll "See The LIGHT"!!
Hopefully you mean in game. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:56:00 -
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Mindless minions can be found most places
I have no problem with ganking, but do preferre to call a spade, a spade.
I'm a spade -º Any typos, spelling errors and bad grammer found, are free and yours to keep. ¦Æ In-áprogress : Angel ConsultingGäó || Angel's BlogGäó || Angel's Pawn ShopGäó -ó Current bond : AE06 200b // Total : 1.05 Trillion ISK
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
752
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:50:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:This CODE thing is getting annoying. It's just like Justin Beiber, I don't want to know anything about it, but everywhere I look it's forced down my throat.
It's like some kind of sick cult. Drink the kool-aid already.
And yet you comment about it, thank you. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2100
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:55:00 -
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Christopher Mabata wrote:James 315 is Our Savior ( yours and mine ) and you should show him the respect he deserves, this is not extortion racket it is a CODE. To live by, the words of truth and justice, honor and patriotism, James 315 took the plunge into the muck with his bare hands in an attempt to pull what was left of high sec from the filth, and having dipped his hands in the foul waters, he pulled them out clean and molded high sec into something beautiful which we strive to continue and maintain every day. Support our CODE. and become a catalyst of change for a greater good. And it would do you well to remember its not piracy if your not wearing an eye patch
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................... nope. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
507
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Posted - 2014.08.10 10:00:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: Pretty much agree with the fact that James315 is no better than anybody else, if I ever cross paths one day with him, quaranteed he'll "See The LIGHT"!!
Hopefully you mean in game. *remembers why he has never introduced Eve to some friends of his... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6361
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Posted - 2014.08.11 06:05:00 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:Arcelian wrote:This CODE thing is getting annoying. It's just like Justin Beiber, I don't want to know anything about it, but everywhere I look it's forced down my throat.
It's like some kind of sick cult. Drink the kool-aid already. And yet you comment about it, thank you. Let's drink to that~
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
643
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Posted - 2014.08.11 06:17:00 -
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Alliance propaganda belongs to CAOD -->
edit: And I would rather stick a fork in my eye than go to that site again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. o.0 |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1794
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Posted - 2014.08.11 11:15:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:First off, if you travel through Uedema with that much cargo then you probably deserve a gank.
Second, if 10mil/yr was really the only thing you had to do then I might buy into this extortion racket. But as I recall (and perhaps I recall incorrectly), purchasing a permit also requires you to put some goofy tagline in your bio about how you support CODE. So, what pricetag do you put on a principle? Probably more than 10mil. True, but most people use alts for hauling, who cares about the bio of a 'utility' alt that very few (if any) of your in-game associates even know about?
James' explanation (people don't pay because they refuse to admit they don't have 100% control on 'their' game) struck me as spot on, at least for the 'single player, min/maxing' types. I find it also explains the 'excessive' rage that often happens after a gank. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter! |
Jessica Danikov
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
376
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:10:00 -
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It's fairly obvious from the bombastic propaganda that CODE is mostly done for laughs, but it's an old joke that wears thin (a bit like Amarrian roleplayers who are space priests- sorry guys, but it gets tiresome after a while) and is done with a bit too much enthusiasm to the point that you start to worry if people don't realise the comedy of what they do.
In essence, CODE is like Scientology- as there will always be religion, there will always be ganking in EVE, but then some guy invents a really weird version of it to make money and other people get suckered into it and the whole thing snowballs a bit and people start taking it seriously (whether they're part of it or not) and everyone else is left standing around wondering why Tom Cruise is so crazy.
If you're going to compare CODE to gangsters, James315 is a Bugs Moran waiting for Capone to come along. I don't think what CODE does is particularly clever and they haven't really added anything with their RP veneer. I'd like to see more competition in his market and a bit more class too. |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1415
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Posted - 2014.08.11 14:25:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:"Oh look! TEARS!!" Of course if you didn't say anything it was "OH look, so upset he can't even type! TEARS!". Overall it was impossible to get any communication through anyway.
Didn't you know? Any discourse or lack thereof after getting blown up is TEARS, because spacepixels are super important and people who get popped must be infuriated.
Epic Space Cat |
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2014.08.11 14:59:00 -
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Christopher Mabata wrote:James 315 is Our Savior ( yours and mine ) and you should show him the respect he deserves, this is not extortion racket it is a CODE. To live by, the words of truth and justice, honor and patriotism, James 315 took the plunge into the muck with his bare hands in an attempt to pull what was left of high sec from the filth, and having dipped his hands in the foul waters, he pulled them out clean and molded high sec into something beautiful which we strive to continue and maintain every day.
Support our CODE. and become a catalyst of change for a greater good. Wow
What pathetic drivel...I respect a turd in the bowl first...
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Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1377
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:02:00 -
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Send me money and there's a 99.9% chance you won't get ganked in highsec.
No need for a website of saleman pitch drivel. Just send ISK now (in game) :D *signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
Serene Repose
1490
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:30:00 -
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One day this really smart guy found himself in need of ... company ... as it were. Unfortunately, he was way too smart to be accepted by his own, so he was forced to wander through the forest whereupon he met a tribe of chimpanzees who were eagerly looking for some diversion.
Well, this really smart guy told the chimps about The Line Of Least Resistance. "What is that?" you may ask. (Then, again, you may NOT.) The chimps were certainly interested. Effortless yucks was what they were all about, and here they had a genius with just the thing. First, they found lonely, defenseless chimps who had no tribe. They'd then surround this hapless chimp. Then the entire tribe would POUNCE on him (or her) and mercilessly pummel the lonely chimp into the ground.
You could hear the poor chimp scream for miles. It never gave a thought to fighting back. What would be the point? If he managed to land a punch, it would just infuriate all the other chimps who'd then pummel all that much harder. So, the poor lonely chimp was left helpless, and in the end, a smidge in the dusty, forest floor.
Of course the really smart guy, and his tribe of "followers" felt all kinds of clever and powerful and stuff. They were the boldest things in the forest, after all! Lonely chimps heard them coming and tried to RUN if they could. Sometimes, though, there was no warning and the poor stupid lonely chimps just had to fall that lonely fall. It wasn't their fault, after all!
Oh, but there was something the really smart guy failed to notice. With them in that forest dwelt this rather large JAGUAR who LOVED munching on chimps for lunch. He'd been watching this tribe for some time, until he was keenly aware of their habits, and assured they weren't even slightly aware of him. One by one, without their even noticing, the JAGUAR crept up behind the rambling tribe and picked off the hindmost.
He did this with GREAT frequency. The really smart guy felt so secure in his cleverness, he'd never even bothered to count how many were IN the tribe! And so it went day after day. Lunchtime was so good there the JAGUAR thought he might have to go on a diet, he'd gained so much weight. But, alas, he finally munched the last chimp. When it happened, one day, the really smart guy turned to see who was following him, only to find the JAGUAR who'd decided to try a change of pace for lunch...maybe this skinny loud thing tastes better than he looks.... I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7610
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:44:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:This CODE thing is getting annoying. It's just like Justin Beiber, I don't want to know anything about it, but everywhere I look it's forced down my throat.
It's like some kind of sick cult. Drink the kool-aid already.
So someone makes you view forums and click on threads that have JAMES315 in the title.
Usually, when I don't want to hear of something and I see a thread with that something in the title, I don't click. Weird I know.
And you people (all of you) know that James is a Vampire who survives on butt-hurt rather than blood (Buttpire?, naw, not a good name, that more describes me lol). He's probably fat as all hell now and would take 5 hours to burn up if he walked into daylight thanks to all the butt hurt you people feed him.
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ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.08.11 17:43:00 -
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Thread closed.
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