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corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:52:00 -
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So posting to let everyone know I'm hoping to have a town hall for wh bro's on the date above. I've been temp green lit to use SSC's joint TS.
Focus will be on the wormhole dev blog here, http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/into-the-known-unknowns/
Apologies for the short notice I'm hoping to sort a couple moderators and some one to mediate. With luck we should have a Dev or two there.
Ideally I'd like as many people there as possible espically people from lower class wormholes, If you are coming please make sure to read the dev blog before hand.
Once Ihave the final ok on TS details I'll post them as well.
Will probably be some other CSM people on as well but there will be no derailing from topic. Its a wormhole town hall first and only
Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
Winthorp
2512
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Posted - 2014.08.10 10:07:00 -
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+1
But as these things usually occur during my work time (Damn living in the best country in the world), will this get recorded and soundclouded please? |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
532
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Posted - 2014.08.10 10:29:00 -
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yeah recording shouldnt be a issue and getting it put up some where. Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
136
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Posted - 2014.08.10 10:55:00 -
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+1 ~Bringer of happiness
http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/ |
Bleedingthrough
Raptor Navy
88
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:28:00 -
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For any serious discussion about workload or what low class dwellers can realistically do etc. some data on how many pilots live in a WH by class would be extremely helpful.
Can CCP provide us with that? |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
3625
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:35:00 -
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+1 Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
535
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:43:00 -
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Bleedingthrough wrote:For any serious discussion about workload or what low class dwellers can realistically do etc. some data on how many pilots live in a WH by class would be extremely helpful.
Can CCP provide us with that?
probably yes Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
661
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:06:00 -
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Good deal Corbexx. Yaay!!!! |
Wander Prian
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
35
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:27:00 -
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+1 |
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
1335
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:42:00 -
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Since I wont be able to attend, I'll just put my feedback here.
Changes are generally good, with the exception of the new frigate holes that seem tailor made for nullsec fleets and the absolutely pants-on-head mass changes.
The mass changes will have the absolute opposite effect to what is intended. They will result in less capital usage and by extension less capital losses.
Anyways, good idea, +1 from me. |
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Ahost Gceo
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
162
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Posted - 2014.08.10 14:39:00 -
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I'm all about discussing how incredibly high on crack CCP must be for some of these changes to make sense to them. +1 I'm a friggin' banana. |
Rei Moon
Murderous Inc
39
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Posted - 2014.08.10 16:40:00 -
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+1 I'll trade my usual 48h work shift just for this. |
Alundil
Isogen 5
639
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:13:00 -
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Nice. Looking forward to this. Thanks corbexx.
I'm right behind you |
Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
112
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Posted - 2014.08.10 20:30:00 -
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Seems like a good idea, but how are you going to ensure that participants are truly low class wh dwellers?
If this is indeed verified, it will be an interesting discussion.
If this verification is not possible, I am just afraid it will be hijacked by people with different lobbying objectives... "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Winthorp
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:12:00 -
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Saisin wrote:Seems like a good idea, but how are you going to ensure that participants are truly low class wh dwellers?
If this is indeed verified, it will be an interesting discussion.
If this verification is not possible, I am just afraid it will be hijacked by people with different lobbying objectives...
How will we indeed verify who you are? ohh wait you could post with your main right. |
Van Steiza
Whale Girth Grand Sky Wizards
66
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:16:00 -
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I'll be there Corbexx - I'll bring the bacon sammiches and beer. |
Chicken Exroofer
Regional Assault and Recon
24
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:22:00 -
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Good deal, way to CSM!
Will try to get in if the TS doesn't get overloaded. Three year C3 dweller, I would be interested to here what people have to say and if any feedback is given from CCP at all. Not holding my breath there.
We CAN adapt to all these changes, but saying it again. This will make LESS content, not more. |
Icarus Able
The Scope Gallente Federation
435
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Posted - 2014.08.10 21:26:00 -
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Up until last week i was a c4 dweller. I'll try and make it. |
BayneNothos
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
103
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:27:00 -
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I'll try to make it, assuming I remember |
Mal Nina
The Red Circle Inc. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
58
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:04:00 -
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questions for the devs since I believe it is important to understand the data sets they are working with and what might be the problems they are seeing.
Is WH space population growing or shrinking and where is it doing it. (are large entities getting larger? What type of space are the players in)
Is PVP (deaths) increasing or decreasing in WH space? who is dying and who is responsible for the killing. Is the killing ganks, or "real PVP" and how much are the WH corps killing things in null and low as apposed to wh space... (are we the only corp hitting the NS community much harder than the WH community since we can find targets there?)
How much isk is generated in WH space and by what type of entities in what types of WH space. Is it considered excessive, is it out of line with same age players in other types of space?
The charts they have given are a start and they show C6 space as being the main NPC killing area by far. But they lacked a lot of detail in the demographics of the entities doing what they do... Those player kills could all be big fish killing the little fish.
It would just be good to fully understand why the devs think there needs to be mechanical changes and what they hope to gain from them. As I read between the lines it appears they see a disparity between isk generation and isk destruction in WH space. Yet isk destruction may be a problem if WH space is finding itself shrinking in population and what population remains is getting consolidated into fewer WHs. That is a different problem than the one that is generating the current round of changes.
Thanks for hosting this conference call, hope I can be on line... now I may have to load up teamspeak. :)
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
605
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:10:00 -
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I'll be there to try and organize a dota game while people try to have a discussion and to make fun of nerds)) If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Andiedeath
Sefem Velox Swift Angels Alliance
268
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Posted - 2014.08.11 06:13:00 -
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Would love to be there.... Pitty about the time though. :(
So +1 in spirit... Although I think I make my position on the changes clear in the forum threads.
The changes are AWESOME! Director Swift Angels Alliance https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3247397#post3247397 INGAME CHANNEL: Sefem Public |
Andiedeath
Sefem Velox Swift Angels Alliance
268
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Posted - 2014.08.11 06:33:00 -
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Andiedeath wrote:Would love to be there.... Pitty about the time though. :(
So +1 in spirit... Although I think I make my position on the changes clear in the forum threads.
The changes are AWESOME!
And sorry 'AWESOME' being...
1. Chains will stay open longer, so blue balls will occur less often. 2. Those that do roll wormholes will have support fleets and not just be one guy with a dread/orca and webbing loki alt. Which again equals more potential for fights. Again less blue balls... hopefully...
Yes I concede that population in wormholes will drop in the first instance although I see more PVP organisations entering for a new experience. This will in turn rebalance and even increase population from where it is now.
I know people don't like the status-quo being changed... But these changes AS A WHOLE should give wormhole space the shake up it needs to reinvigorate it.
If I remember correctly the changes to FW were suppose to kill it... But I'll say for at least the Caldari/Gallente side of the warzone I have only seen an increase in PVP. Yes there is more bears in stabbed ships that run away but there is also more people willing to fight which is fantastic. (unfortunately not the battleship fights of old... but fights none the less). Director Swift Angels Alliance https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3247397#post3247397 INGAME CHANNEL: Sefem Public |
ISK Lord
Negative Density No Response
11
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Posted - 2014.08.11 06:46:00 -
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Good job organizing this Corbexx. I'll be there.
Can we confirm which Devs will be attending and the format of the discussion? |
Marox Calendale
Human League
28
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Posted - 2014.08.11 08:07:00 -
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Mal Nina wrote:questions for the devs since I believe it is important to understand the data sets they are working with and what might be the problems they are seeing.
Is WH space population growing or shrinking and where is it doing it. (are large entities getting larger? What type of space are the players in)
Is PVP (deaths) increasing or decreasing in WH space? who is dying and who is responsible for the killing. Is the killing ganks, or "real PVP" and how much are the WH corps killing things in null and low as apposed to wh space... (are we the only corp hitting the NS community much harder than the WH community since we can find targets there?)
How much isk is generated in WH space and by what type of entities in what types of WH space. Is it considered excessive, is it out of line with same age players in other types of space?
The charts they have given are a start and they show C6 space as being the main NPC killing area by far. But they lacked a lot of detail in the demographics of the entities doing what they do... Those player kills could all be big fish killing the little fish.
It would just be good to fully understand why the devs think there needs to be mechanical changes and what they hope to gain from them. As I read between the lines it appears they see a disparity between isk generation and isk destruction in WH space. Yet isk destruction may be a problem if WH space is finding itself shrinking in population and what population remains is getting consolidated into fewer WHs. That is a different problem than the one that is generating the current round of changes.
Thanks for hosting this conference call, hope I can be on line... now I may have to load up teamspeak. :)
According to this, can we have a definition of what scale means "large Wormhole Entities" and what would be small? |
Chesterfield Fancypantz
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve WormHole Occupation and Resource Exploitation
11
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Posted - 2014.08.11 08:09:00 -
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Frankly, this needs to be limited to CEO's and 2nd in commands.
Its going to be an absolute and utter shitshow if its anyone and everyone.
CEO's need to collect the opinions of their pilots and bring it to the table at this meeting, otherwise its going to be a complete donkey show.
IMHO. |
Winthorp
2522
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Posted - 2014.08.11 09:23:00 -
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Chesterfield Fancypantz wrote:Frankly, this needs to be limited to CEO's and 2nd in commands or representatives.
Its going to be an absolute and utter shitshow if its anyone and everyone.
CEO's need to collect the opinions of their pilots and bring it to the table at this meeting, otherwise its going to be a complete donkey show.
IMHO.
Yeah i tend to lean towards this myself and why i said will it be structured as these seem to have a history of being a few random loud neckbeard guys that talk over everyone including the hosts. |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
525
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:23:00 -
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If it's moderated, there won't be much of an issue. (Please use a moderated channel?) |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
547
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:29:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Chesterfield Fancypantz wrote:Frankly, this needs to be limited to CEO's and 2nd in commands or representatives.
Its going to be an absolute and utter shitshow if its anyone and everyone.
CEO's need to collect the opinions of their pilots and bring it to the table at this meeting, otherwise its going to be a complete donkey show.
IMHO. Yeah i tend to lean towards this myself and why i said will it be structured as these seem to have a history of being a few random loud neckbeard guys that talk over everyone including the hosts.
Yeah we can sort a moderated channel so we wont have to listen to everyone shout. I personally don't want to limit it tojust ceo or diplos rather everyone was allowed to come.
We'll have a channel set up where people can ask question in for the town hall. and I'll have a couple people in charge of asking them.
dev coming is to be confirmed.
ooh if you can't make it but still want to ask questions. send them to me in a mail with the topic "question for townhall" I'll note these down and try go through as many as possible. cant garentee them all though. Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1720
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:34:00 -
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I have a bunch of questions Is it ok if i mail them to you cobrexx, so you (or your people) can read them out for me?
Edit: corbexx wrote:[quote=Winthorp] ooh if you can't make it but still want to ask questions. send them to me in a mail with the topic "question for townhall" I'll note these down and try go through as many as possible. cant garentee them all though.
cool, i'll do that then. +1 |
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