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Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66542
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Posted - 2014.08.13 12:47:00 -
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So your evilness suddenly become our fault? That you blame us for your actions. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
Caroline Grace
Grace Stellar Conveyance Inc.
546
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Posted - 2014.08.13 12:52:00 -
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Capsuleer Nauplius, for your crimes against humanity, I have put another 666 666 ISK bounty on your head, directly insulting you, your God and condemning any and all of your past and present actions involving such crimes. Please refrain from such activities in the future or I will be forced to take more serious actions against you, up to and including a permanent annihilation of your capsuleer status through violent buttslapping leading to your clone death. |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2014.08.13 13:42:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Such a finely tuned moral calculus we have here on the IGS. Plug the following into your equations and see what happens:
- While it was my intent to eventually kill all 4,034 Slaves on this Industrial, their deaths were not imminent and some of the Slaves would have lived months, even years had the Stormcrows not murdered them. That lifespan, however short or valueless some of you may consider it to be, was taken from these Slaves and they did not have any choice in the matter.
- Some of the Slaves would have survived despite my intent to kill them eventually. People such as Ayallah and Ava Starfire have taken Slaves from me in the past and they took them from my armed combat ships, not unarmed Bestowers. Furthermore, there is always the possibility that I will take a temporary retirement from piloting GÇö as I have done several times in the past, most recently for a two and one half year period GÇö and leave my slaves either to languish peacefully in a hanger or be sold back on the SCC markets into "normal" Amarrian slavery.
- My slave pool is not finite but instead I replenish it from the SCC markets as Slaves are lost in combat, sacrificed, decimated, or worked to death. I prefer to keep a working stock of around 20,000 Slaves (I purchase and prepare Slaves intended for the rare mass-sacrifices separately, as these receive no crew or planetary colony training). Therefore, the ledger here is not, "2,034 killed, 2,000 saved", but:
2,034 Nauplius-slaves killed 2,000 Nauplius-slaves get "freedom" About 4,000 Slaves move from "regular" Amarrian slavery to Nauplius-slavery Put that way, it doesn't look so good now, does it?
Finally, let me make the following adjustment to the Nauplius-shooting moral calculus going forward:
- Henceforth, the cargo holds of all my combat ships will be stuffed with extra slaves who serve no purpose but to bloody the hands of all who would shoot at me.
- Henceforth, whenever I am podded for any reason, I shall kill 1,000 of my Slaves. This rule is retroactive to my last podding, so let all who would attend Lady Odelya d'Hanguest's Nauplius corpse viewing party mediate upon the 1,000 Slaves who at this very moment are being prepared for their deaths with maximum psychological torture.
Amen. Amarr Victor.
Calculus eh? I still consider all 4034 slaves liberated, 2034 without their lives and 2000 more with their lives.
Moreover, you are the 'Enemy'. Anyone who has labelled you as 'The Enemy' is no longer considering sportsmanship when they see you. You are beneath sportsmanship. This is about hurting you. Relieving you of your assets. Haranguing you until you lose your hair. Denying you any form of satisfaction. This will continue until you are run out of town, preferably while you are still in your small clothes. However, since you are a capsuleer and mortality means differently for the likes of us, this is going to go on for a very long time.
So enjoy. Keep 'stuffing' slaves into your ships to drag into your horrific 'Nauplius-slavery'. They will be liberated, with or without their lives. Don't expect bleeding hearts. Expect to die. |
Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
404
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Posted - 2014.08.13 13:57:00 -
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Your miss-allocation of blame is not our problem, Naupilus. If you're after wailing and gnashing of teeth, you might be better off appealing to a live audience in The Summit or one of the 'Official' channels.
Should relocation services be required for liberated* slaves, and none of the individuals who have thus far offered be able to assist, AWEX- can offer a secure route to the outpost situated in the same system as the Ayem Colony and Aurora Arcology projects.
As I exclude unknowns from contacting me personally, please notify me of interest in this thread should you wish to be added to my contacts list to discuss pro-bono logistics assistance leading to that specific colony. No other relocation options are offered at this time.
*Liberated specifically from Nauplius' stock. AWEX- makes no comment on the morality, legality or ethics of slavery in the Amarr Empire. AWEX- does not employ slavery as a corporate resource. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: Adaptable Industry for an Unpredictable Cluster
Intaki Reborn. Independent Capsuleer. |
Hoshi Karasawa
Karasawa Heavy Engineering
68
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Posted - 2014.08.13 15:41:00 -
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Ms Aelisha, I would be interested to discuss such logistics assistance, should the survivors decide they wish to go to those colonies instead of the Republic. I'll allow them to decide where they want to go. |
Ashlar Vellum
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2014.08.13 16:38:00 -
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Nauplius wrote: Some of the Slaves would have survived despite my intent to kill them eventually. People such as Ayallah and Ava Starfire have taken Slaves from me in the past and they took them from my armed combat ships, not unarmed Bestowers. Furthermore, there is always the possibility that I will take a temporary retirement from piloting GÇö as I have done several times in the past, most recently for a two and one half year period GÇö and leave my slaves either to languish peacefully in a hanger or be sold back on the SCC markets into "normal" Amarrian slavery.
Wait a minute, weren't you "liberating" them by your actions? So now after road getting a little bit bumpy you are backpedaling, you are one lousy acolyte of your cult.
Nauplius wrote:Finally, let me make the following adjustment to the Nauplius-shooting moral calculus going forward:
- Henceforth, the cargo holds of all my combat ships will be stuffed with extra slaves who serve no purpose but to bloody the hands of all who would shoot at me.
- Henceforth, whenever I am podded for any reason, I shall kill 1,000 of my Slaves. This rule is retroactive to my last podding, so let all who would attend Lady Odelya d'Hanguest's Nauplius corpse viewing party mediate upon the 1,000 Slaves who at this very moment are being prepared for their deaths with maximum psychological torture.
This just sounds desperate. You were in the warzone, so you probably know how many we kill, now stretch your thinking muscle and remember how many soulless-ones kill while they work for the empires. In the grand scheme of things your 1000 are not even a drop in the ocean. If you are breaking at least have some modicum of self-respect.
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Ragnar Severasse
Consortium of the Blue Phoenix Villore Accords
3384
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Posted - 2014.08.13 16:39:00 -
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Ms. Karasawa, If any freemen wish to immigrate to the Federation, I will be more than happy to help. As I have immigrated several years ago, I can provide council to those unfamiliar with Federation protocol. Developer of the Theories of Special and General Stupidity:-áhttp://imgur.com/zwpPmqB |
Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
870
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:28:00 -
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Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy Imperial Outlaws.
628
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:33:00 -
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Ashlar Vellum wrote:In the grand scheme of things your 1000 are not even a drop in the ocean.
Certainly 1000 out of several trillion seems irrelevant if you are using mathematical logic. Unfortunately, the reality is that it only takes one life to change the course of a history.
With that said, I don't see anyone killing this mans resolve by hunting him down but instead strengthening his determination. After all, with so many threads about him on the front page, he's raking in more attention than a lingerie model in a Brutor barracks. Sometimes it's best to ignore griefers, psychopaths, and step-parents. Eventually they lose their steam, unless you keep throwing wood in the fire.
-Eran
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Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3942
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:45:00 -
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Ragnar Severasse wrote:Ms. Karasawa, If any freemen wish to immigrate to the Federation, I will be more than happy to help. As I have immigrated several years ago, I can provide council to those unfamiliar with Federation protocol.
Just drawl your words and keep a white flag handy. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
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Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3942
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Posted - 2014.08.13 17:46:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold.
We do not negotiate with terrorists. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Anslo
Scope Works
6360
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Posted - 2014.08.13 18:34:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold. We do not negotiate with terrorists.
....wait we negotiate at ALL?
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Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
870
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Posted - 2014.08.13 18:42:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold. We do not negotiate with terrorists. ....wait we negotiate at ALL? On occasion. It's normally called "ransom"... The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
593
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Posted - 2014.08.13 18:59:00 -
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I had mentioned the thing earlier, where a dangerous cultist shot down one of our unarmed Bestowers.
I just a few minutes ago, checked our corporate records, only to find that there was no record of this event taking place.
Only in the involved pilot's own combat records, was this massacre recorded.
So it would seem Theology Council agents have infiltrated the corporate database, and removed the event from record.
Disturbing ! |
Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
295
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Posted - 2014.08.13 19:49:00 -
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All any of you is doing is making it worse.
Maybe the PLEX you get for delivering his useless corpse to a third party can go to the families of the thousand people he kills when he wakes up. (Or to whatever bullshit non-profit you donated those who lived to.) Or, just give them to the holder, the rightful owner all along! After all, hiring half-******** mercenaries to kill Matari for him sure as **** does not help.
Or, ..maybe one day his bounty will get big enough that he just gives up and goes home. Maybe one day holding a gun to the head of the slaves he pushes in front of himself and screaming at him on the forums that you swear you will do it if he does not shape up will finally get through to him. Maybe, I dunno. I guess I can hope the PLEX prize attracts someone who is not half-alpha clone ******** to come by and fix all of this.
Or maybe all of you will just **** off and maybe give us a chance to save our people from him before you kill them. -áFear The Tribes |
Arista Shahni
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:08:00 -
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So, your plan to 'help' Naupilius was to kill him in space, Ayallah?
Well, I suppose your training was rather narrow. One can't fault you for that.
Regardless, anyone who continues playing armchair psychologist to this particular Capsuleer should start practicing in a mirror first.
"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also. -áAnd as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all." |
Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3942
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:37:00 -
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I'm confused, Aya. You've been begging for someone else to take Naupy seriously and, now we have, you seem angry and despairing about it.
Isn't this what you wanted? Weren't his reprisals completely predictable? "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Anslo
Scope Works
6361
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:40:00 -
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ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!
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Pieter Tuulinen
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
3944
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Posted - 2014.08.13 21:49:00 -
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AM I NOT MERCIFUL? "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Anslo
Scope Works
6367
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Posted - 2014.08.13 21:54:00 -
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IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE?
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Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11
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Posted - 2014.08.14 00:33:00 -
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If the Stormcrows took the time to secure those slaves and are willing to turn over the Slaves to myself for redistribution amongst the Imperial Holders I will be happy to reward them for their efforts.
I am glad to see that justice is being visited upon this vile and corrupt individual. |
DeadRow
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
272
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Posted - 2014.08.14 01:08:00 -
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Such a silly noise over nothing.
~Hikari |
Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
870
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Posted - 2014.08.14 01:26:00 -
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DeadRow wrote:Such a silly noise over nothing.
~Hikari Welcome to the IGS? The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
295
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Posted - 2014.08.14 01:48:00 -
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Well **** me for doing what I know. It worked better, he went inactive more when I was hunting him. At least I did not get my people killed.
And yea, I thought with all the talking you people did you would be smart enough to figure out to not kill the ******* Matari.
I do not want your help anymore thank you. -áFear The Tribes |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
775
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Posted - 2014.08.14 05:10:00 -
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Ayallah wrote:Well **** me for doing what I know. It worked better, he went inactive more when I was hunting him. At least I did not get my people killed.
And yea, I thought with all the talking you people did you would be smart enough to figure out to not kill the ******* Matari.
I do not want your help anymore thank you.
This post sounds naieve, especially for you. Look at it from another light, and it's practically a plea to leave Nauplius alone when he's transporting slaves to whatever possible end he has in mind for them.
While I find your emotional involvement commendable, you fail to offer a solution on how you would handled it in this case. If you caught Nauplius with a slave transport carrying thousands aboard, how would you minimize losses? You can point & web him, attempt to force him to eject, but why should he if he knows you're going to shoot him afterwards and in his view 'deny the slaves their glorious end to God'. So you end up with one of two situations: either he self-destructs the ship, ending the lives of many, or you blow up the ship, with the same result.
This is a tragic reality that alot of people in this thread gasp, it was a choice between two evils, there would never be a 'good' or 'right' way, but they did what they could. -áThe Empire Titans, when big isn't big enough!-á -á-áUshra'Khan liberates slaves in Amarr! |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2014.08.14 06:19:00 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:Ayallah wrote:Well **** me for doing what I know. It worked better, he went inactive more when I was hunting him. At least I did not get my people killed.
And yea, I thought with all the talking you people did you would be smart enough to figure out to not kill the ******* Matari.
I do not want your help anymore thank you. This post sounds naieve, especially for you. Look at it from another light, and it's practically a plea to leave Nauplius alone when he's transporting slaves to whatever possible end he has in mind for them. While I find your emotional involvement commendable, you fail to offer a solution on how you would handled it in this case. If you caught Nauplius with a slave transport carrying thousands aboard, how would you minimize losses? You can point & web him, attempt to force him to eject, but why should he if he knows you're going to shoot him afterwards and in his view 'deny the slaves their glorious end to God'. So you end up with one of two situations: either he self-destructs the ship, ending the lives of many, or you blow up the ship, with the same result. This is a tragic reality that alot of people in this thread gasp, it was a choice between two evils, there would never be a 'good' or 'right' way, but they did what they could.
Leaving them alone is also not an option. That way you more or less guarantee a drawn-out death for the slaves.
Warfare, privateering, mercenary work, any kind of task that requires violence is a practice of ruthless calculations. You may hope for the greater good, but most of the time, it's a choice of the lesser evil. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy Imperial Outlaws.
630
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Posted - 2014.08.14 08:51:00 -
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I suggest we just get Nauplius really high. Like really really, really out of his mind....he'll never harm a soul again, let alone fly a ship. Where's the booster selling Thukker gal when you need her.....
-Eran |
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
37
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Posted - 2014.08.14 08:57:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:I suggest we just get Nauplius really high. Like really really, really out of his mind....he'll never harm a soul again, let alone fly a ship. Where's the booster selling Thukker gal when you need her.....
-Eran
Yes. A mindflood party for IGS has been vastly overdue. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
659
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Posted - 2014.08.14 11:06:00 -
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Nauplius, the wardec is active. I do not usually broadcast my intentions to the victim so obviously but in this case the message is more important than your inevitable, repeated destruction... of which will happen if I see you anyway. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
1743
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Posted - 2014.08.14 14:55:00 -
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Hoshi Karasawa wrote:This would be where I make it known that the slaves are at this time not in the care of Stormcrows.
They are in the care of myself and the medical staff aboard my Orca class vessel Venix
I am looking to repatriate the slaves to the Republic for proper care once the wounded have been treated enough for transport.
Ms Rella, would Gradient be able to help with this?
My facilities and resources are not enough to deal with 2000 slaves with various wounds both physical and otherwise. I've had to have the main cargo hold converted into temporary accommodations and medical centre for them, even enlisting marine medics from the onboard security regiment.
I, on behalf of Gradient, would be happy to transport the survivors to our relocation facilities in the Republic. I'll contact you via private comms so that arrangements can be made. Thank you. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
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