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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:20:00 -
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With the Hyperion release to be published in August 26th we will see a new kind of Level 4 Missions. In these new missions you can only use frigate sized ships and have to fight a single strong NPC that has some nasty tricks up his sleeves.
Those new type of missions, the so called "Burner" missions, will be the ideal playground for people who want to tinker around and find the optimal ship setup and strategy to be used in a good challenge.
Read more about which NPCs you can expect, why and how they pose a challenge and what you can gain from these missions in CCP Fozzie's latest dev blog Introducing Burner Missions. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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Fifth Blade
The Nyan Cat Pirates Disband.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:24:00 -
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Such mission. |
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:24:00 -
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Quick - first!!! I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
1324
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:26:00 -
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Missing mission. Best mission ;) |
BadAssMcKill
ElitistOps
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:31:00 -
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Basically fly a Hawk yes? . |
Skyler Hawk
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:31:00 -
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These look like they could actually be fun. Will they be available on SiSi for testing before hyperion goes live? |
Callic Veratar
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:32:00 -
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I'm excited by the missions but disappointed they won't be a part of their own agents. What I would like to see in the future, if these are successful is a full set of level 4 frigate missions (many of them easier than what's proposed, but still difficult, possibly against a small frigate wing) with smaller rewards so that I can fly a frigate and not feel like I'm wasting my time with level 1/2 missions.
Follow that with a similar set for cruisers (and potentially destroyers and BCs as well). |
Ravcharas
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:32:00 -
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Quote:The fact that these missions can only be received as part of the random level 4 security mission pool should prevent them from being too farmable. If you're worried about farming you could instead limit them like you do with epics. Why make people sit through a bunch of, arguably, uninteresting and seen-before pve content before getting a luck-of-the-draw to get to new and exciting pve content? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:33:00 -
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With any luck, long term, we'll have more missions of this style. Fewer, but more dangerous targets. And potentially less predictable.(though getting intelligence from your Agents is fine )
That's a "I want!" rather than an 'CCP are doing'. Just to be clear. I can't talk about what CCP are doing Woo! CSM 9! http://fuzzwork.enterprises/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Skyler Hawk
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:34:00 -
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Also, the devblog says these missions will be available "from the normal L4 mission pool."
Does that mean you'll have to run a bunch of regular L4 missions until you get offered a burner mission, or will it be possible to specifically request burner missions from agents? |
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IceGuerilla
Cohortes Vigilum Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:35:00 -
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I said in response to the introduction of ghost sites that NPC interactions in EVE very quickly become an exercise in painting-by-numbers. Could someone therefore TL;DR this for me and tell me the pro-fit to counter these? (I'm guessing Worm) |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:40:00 -
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Hm! Shiny. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:42:00 -
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Skyler Hawk wrote:These look like they could actually be fun. Will they be available on SiSi for testing before hyperion goes live? That's the plan, and we'll be creating a test server feedback thread for them when they do.
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/ccp_lebowski |
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Nomistrav
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:43:00 -
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<3 <3 <3 Love it <3 <3 <3
Looks more challenging than typical missions and personally I think it better prepares the player for PvP combat - at least in some way. I've always -loved- flying Frigates (all racials to 5) but there just aren't enough opportunities for me to use them. While I understand that they're randomly added to the Level 4 missions - I wouldn't mind more opportunities to use smaller ships with better pay!!!
Definite +1 |
Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:47:00 -
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Ravcharas wrote:Quote:The fact that these missions can only be received as part of the random level 4 security mission pool should prevent them from being too farmable. If you're worried about farming you could instead limit them like you do with epics. Why make people sit through a bunch of, arguably, uninteresting and seen-before pve content before getting a luck-of-the-draw to get to new and exciting pve content?
Just make friends with L4 mission runners. They possibly are not the type of player geared towards frigate "PvP" style fights. As soon as they get one of these missions, they invite you in and you get the Burner mission and they then get to go on with their "normal" missions.
Win win |
Death Salesman
Iron Knights
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:49:00 -
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Will we be able to neut these frigates? Last I checked, all npcs had infinite cap. |
Cheradenine Harper
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:50:00 -
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These look like a great idea. I might have to dust off the alt's Domi and get a decent set of frigates or my Ishkur stashed at the same port.
Questions:
How many normal level 4 missions will I need to run on average before I get a Burner mission?
Will the NPCs be vulnerable to cap warfare or ECM?
Will these be possible in a basic T1 frig with a clever fit?
Suggestions:
I'll mainly hold off till I've seen it but,
If they work then a cruiser version, as you mention, would be welcome.
I know this might make some regard me as evil but a league table of completion based on the least powerful fit/skill set to complete the mission?
http://diaries-of-a-space-noob.blogspot.co.uk |
Berluth Luthian
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:50:00 -
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So can non-empire factions give burner missions against enemy pirate factions?
So presumably, these wont be easily farmable, because they are randomly rewarded only occaisionally. |
Bam Stroker
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:52:00 -
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Will they try to warp off if they're losing and not tackled? That would be awesome. EVE Down Under 2014 (Australia's very own fanfest) 21st to 23rd November 2014 in Sydney, Australia www.evedownunder.com |
Lord Echon
Adventurers
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:52:00 -
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Damn! These missions have me existed! Of course, the thought of having to run normal lvl 4 missions to access these Burner missions is not terribly exciting.
"What kinds of new mission types would you like to see us add next?"
Missions that are not safe. Missions where you actually risk losing something. How? By making them unpredictable. The problem with the standard missions is that they can be completed without risk, by reasonably competent players anyway. Inserting random elements that no walkthrough can cover would make them exciting. |
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Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:52:00 -
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So glad for this and I do hope it is the thin leading edge of things to come.
m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9 |
Daros Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:54:00 -
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I am liking this idea. A setup with fewer but harder enemies that require people to adapt is something that i think is most welcomed. Also they remind me of that guy from the end of the SOE epic arc, 2 enemies that need other than the usual lvl 1 mission tactics to beat, that was fun. |
Aquinas II
PostgreSQL
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:56:00 -
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I'm looking forward to checking these out. It's a great concept. I hope they turn out to be as fun as they sound.
Death Salesman wrote:Will we be able to neut these frigates? Last I checked, all npcs had infinite cap. I was wondering the same thing. |
Celldoom
MYLDKATZ
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:57:00 -
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Why not make this part of bonus objectives of all lvl4 missions with the acceleration gate on the last room? This way people can still get the normal rewards and attempt the frigate boss fight at the end?
Another alternative is for enemies in lvl4 missions to drop "passkeys" to these hidden pirate lairs where players can warp to and do them separately. These keys can even be sold on the market. |
bucktooth
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.14 15:57:00 -
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Aquinas II wrote:I'm looking forward to checking these out. It's a great concept. I hope they turn out to be as fun as they sound. Death Salesman wrote:Will we be able to neut these frigates? Last I checked, all npcs had infinite cap. I was wondering the same thing.
Please answer this |
Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66579
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:00:00 -
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Ravcharas wrote:Quote:The fact that these missions can only be received as part of the random level 4 security mission pool should prevent them from being too farmable. If you're worried about farming you could instead limit them like you do with epics. Why make people sit through a bunch of, arguably, uninteresting and seen-before pve content before getting a luck-of-the-draw to get to new and exciting pve content?
This. Many people loathe the normal lvl 4 mission. So in the end these missions will only benefit the people who wants to run lvl 4 missions and I think a far majority of the people who already runs lvl 4 missions wouldn't care much about these as it requires them to reship. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:01:00 -
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i really like it so far but i don't think it was a good idea to add them to normal lvl4 agents.
Firstly players will want to try out new content after its out and declining lvl4 missions till you get a burner mission is not very user friendly. Secondly players might want to exclusively do those 1vs1s in future but they can't. We already had the problem long time ago where multiple mission types where delivered through the same agents.
this being said i am really looking forward to see how it feels to fight an NPC in eve which uses a semi-realistic fit - thats definitively new. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
colera deldios
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:01:00 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:Skyler Hawk wrote:These look like they could actually be fun. Will they be available on SiSi for testing before hyperion goes live? That's the plan, and we'll be creating a test server feedback thread for them when they do.
Will these come for Pirate L4 missons as welll ? |
Ballz Diesel
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:02:00 -
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Celldoom wrote:Another alternative is for enemies in lvl4 missions to drop "passkeys" to these hidden pirate lairs where players can warp to and do them separately. These keys can even be sold on the market.
Probably too late for them to change burner frigate missions, but this could be how they ramp up to burner cruisers. It solves a lot issues.
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Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
219
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:03:00 -
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Price of Worm shooting up 50% in 3..2..1.. |
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