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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1028
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Posted - 2014.08.16 08:08:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:I dimly remember there was a guide to quickly identify signature types by strength without scanning down far, anyone knows / can link?
Doesn't work anymore.
Actually one CAN pretty much rule out a lot of signatures by doing a wide initial scan and looking at signature strength. Otherwise black holes with a gazillion signatures, would be full of self destructed scanner ships as they "just couldn't take and MORE" There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1028
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Posted - 2014.08.16 08:10:00 -
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To OP, you do of course realise that BOB is calling on you to sacrifice your most expensive ship at the nearest wormhole?
Just Jump in, one of His acolytes will provide the service, reasonably painlessly. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1028
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Posted - 2014.08.16 08:20:00 -
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Bel Tika wrote:I went in a wormhole once......true story
BOB loves you and misses you.
Please come back in something shiny. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Belesia Velorea
Bunch of Noobs Logistics
11
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Posted - 2014.08.16 09:02:00 -
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I'm curious, what part of space are you scanning in and how populated do you think it is? Because when I logged on yesterday and set about my 6 system circuit in FW lowsec, I found 17 data/relic sites. Higher than normal i'll grant you but there's always plenty to run in my area of space. |
Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
194
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Posted - 2014.08.16 10:01:00 -
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mentlegen Aucie wrote:Exploration is becoming a nuisance at times when you get entire constellations with twice the number of wormholes than sites.
I liked your post, just so that I could unlike it. [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |
Clyde Barrows
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:10:00 -
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WH's are the devil , like a space ***** with VD . I have been stuck 3 too many times in them . STAY OUT , ENTER AT YOUR OWN DEMISE . should be post on entrance.
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mow hawk
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:20:00 -
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Clyde Barrows wrote:WH's are the devil , like a space ***** with VD . I have been stuck 3 too many times in them . STAY OUT , ENTER AT YOUR OWN DEMISE . should be post on entrance.
I actually prefer the wormholes that have signs saying "Thar be dragons". |
fudface
ACME-INC
57
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:29:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:mentlegen Aucie wrote:Xuixien wrote:Tell me, do you feel as if you're being... tortured... by the high number of WHs? I feel like CCP is trying to tell me to go to wormhole space. Clearly, this is a matter for Ripard Teg.
who? |
Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
679
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Posted - 2014.08.16 16:04:00 -
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Love scanning down WH's as an exploration player, they always hold the possibility of leading to a place with more exploration sites than where I currently am, and checking the other connections has increased my income.
If you're not using WH's to expand your exploration territory (which should be literally anywhere, at any time, and bugger the locals) you, sir, are a victim of your own cruel behavior. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Kraelon
Blacktech Inc.
5
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Posted - 2014.08.16 18:37:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:Love scanning down WH's as an exploration player, they always hold the possibility of leading to a place with more exploration sites than where I currently am, and checking the other connections has increased my income.
If you're not using WH's to expand your exploration territory (which should be literally anywhere, at any time, and bugger the locals) you, sir, are a victim of your own cruel behavior.
Exactly this. The best place now to base out of as an explorer is low sec due to the k-k wormhole buff. These wormholes expand your exploration territory if you use them. WHs are also the safest way to sneak into null sec to run sites if you don't already live there. It's random, yes, but that is the nature of the exploration profession. |
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Hicksimus
The Scope Gallente Federation
267
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Posted - 2014.08.16 18:50:00 -
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As somebody more interested in small-scale engagements I love the number of wormholes I can find! Plus I can run the sites in my PvP ships when there are no backwater plebs around. Profit+Pew!? OP is just another whiny carebear.
Do you have it? |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
401
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:29:00 -
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I blame the 'Narwhals Ate My Duck' guys for all the extra wormholes. Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com |
Tweek Etimua
The Paragons
63
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:03:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Mizhir wrote:mentlegen Aucie wrote:Xuixien wrote:Tell me, do you feel as if you're being... tortured... by the high number of WHs? I feel like CCP is trying to tell me to go to wormhole space. Not all wormholes lead to WH space. Please ignore this pedantic person. CCP is not telling you to go to WH space, but rather.... Bob is calling you. I thought Bob died. |
Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
683
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Posted - 2014.08.17 01:21:00 -
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Tweek Etimua wrote: I thought Bob died.
Bob isn't dead. Tonight I decided to skip into some random part of null without any plan of what I wanted to do beyond get there by wormhole. I spent 2 hours scanning down wormholes looking for any entrance that wasn't high sec.
I found nothing but high sec K-space connections for 2 hours.
It was a sign from Bob. Don't go to Null, danger lies ahead.
Bob saved my life tonight. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
707
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:25:00 -
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I found a WH from HS to null once.
But I didn't stick around. It was Nulli Secunda space so it was empty :( |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5788
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Posted - 2014.08.18 01:47:00 -
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I see it as a sign that known space is beginning to unravel, and I find myself looking around for loose threads to pull. If you like EVE Online and War Thunder content stop by my YouTube channel.-á
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Ammzi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
1830
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Posted - 2014.08.18 11:09:00 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:I dimly remember there was a guide to quickly identify signature types by strength without scanning down far, anyone knows / can link?
it's dead ccp removed it |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
114
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:15:00 -
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Belesia Velorea wrote:I'm curious, what part of space are you scanning in and how populated do you think it is? Because when I logged on yesterday and set about my 6 system circuit in FW lowsec, I found 17 data/relic sites. Higher than normal i'll grant you but there's always plenty to run in my area of space.
That's a fair amount of carbon! |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
323
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Posted - 2014.08.18 20:44:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I wish wormholes would get moved into their own category that can be filtered like anomalies. So you have anomalies/signatures/wormholes.
Why the hell can't this be done? Are all the new WH's in actuality meant to be Everquest-esque timesinks??
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
904
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Posted - 2014.08.19 01:02:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vViSeEUGM9genture into the bosom of BOB young one In it you shall learn something Like being shot hurts or that why yes you forgot to update your clone, or best of all, wh space is empty makes lots of ISK and really could use your claim on it |
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Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
692
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Posted - 2014.08.19 01:10:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vViSeEUGM9genture into the bosom of BOB young one In it you shall learn something Like being shot hurts or that why yes you forgot to update your clone, or best of all, wh space is empty makes lots of ISK and really could use your claim on it
Nah. The neighbors are noisy and don't maintain their yard or house, they're always getting visitors at strange hours, the guy across from you hasn't had a job in 4 years, I'm pretty sure someone in the house next to him is selling crack and I know of at least 6 cases of domestic violence on that street this week alone.
Too much drama. I think I'll just lock the doors and keep driving until I get where I want to go. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
709
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Posted - 2014.08.19 02:15:00 -
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8 systems,
23 Anomalies.
1x - 2/10 plex 2x - 1/10 plex 2x - relic sites (did them both - got all T1 salvage and one x T2 ANN)
18x - WH.
15x (class1&2) Unknown parts of space - I don't even bother to jump in to Unknown parts of space WH's. They aren't unknown when they all have 3 or more POS's in them.
1X (class 3 or 4) Dangerous unknown parts of space 1 Null sec (catch region) 1 HS to HS that took me 7 jumps from where I went in. (dogfuck)
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Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
692
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:31:00 -
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Ocih wrote:8 systems,
23 Anomalies.
1x - 2/10 plex 2x - 1/10 plex 2x - relic sites (did them both - got all T1 salvage and one x T2 ANN)
18x - WH.
15x (class1&2) Unknown parts of space - I don't even bother to jump in to Unknown parts of space WH's. They aren't unknown when they all have 3 or more POS's in them.
1X (class 3 or 4) Dangerous unknown parts of space 1 Null sec (catch region) 1 HS to HS that took me 7 jumps from where I went in. (dogfuck)
This happened in high sec.
There is always going to be an abundance of WH connections in high sec because when a static high wanders into a WH, the residents keep it. If they get a wandering into low, null, or another WH, they're likely to close it to reduce risk.
Nothing scary comes out of high sec, just the occasional ratting Tengu or exploration Drake that makes a great killmail.
Lesson to be learned: if you don't like all of the WH's in high sec, roll them your damn self. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Alundil
Isogen 5
647
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:52:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I wish wormholes would get moved into their own category that can be filtered like anomalies. So you have anomalies/signatures/wormholes.
This would be terrible. A wormhole IS a signature. Period.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Seeing them on scan does not really open them up. When you are grid with the WH, then the K-162 appears on the other end. Current state the k162 appears the instant someone initiates warp to the wh, regardless of whether they ever land on grid with it or not.
This is due to change per CCP in the upcoming Hyperion release. Post Hyperion the k162 will not immediately spawn on warp initiation. It (k162) will immediately spawn if someone jumps through it. CCP is also considering (not sure if it is final yet or not) forcing the K162 to spawn after some delay even if it is not jumped.
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Alundil
Isogen 5
647
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:55:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:
Edit: Oh, and please take the time to learn wormhole descriptions. Unknown parts is C1-C3, and Dangerous unknown is C5-C6.
C1 - C3 are unknown C4 - C5 are dangerous unknown C6 are deadly unknown
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
325
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Posted - 2014.08.19 04:22:00 -
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Alundil wrote:
This would be terrible. A wormhole IS a signature. Period.
Why?
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
697
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Posted - 2014.08.19 12:05:00 -
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Alundil wrote:Bohneik Itohn wrote:
Edit: Oh, and please take the time to learn wormhole descriptions. Unknown parts is C1-C3, and Dangerous unknown is C5-C6.
C1 - C3 are unknown C4 - C5 are dangerous unknown C6 are deadly unknown
From K-space there are no C4 connections, and C5-C6's are both called dangerous as a result of C6's not being intended to have K-space connections when the description for that side of the WH was written, but were accidentally copypasta'd or whatever into the code for C5 K-space WH connections.
So from K-space looking in, what I defined is accurate.
From inside WH's going anywhere else, what you described is accurate. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
383
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:20:00 -
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BuckStrider wrote:I blame the 'Narwhals Ate My Duck' guys for all the extra wormholes. The narwhals ate your WHA...oh, that's a "u". Ahem.
I heard wormholes are going to be all the rage after the next EXPANSION.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
711
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Posted - 2014.08.20 04:38:00 -
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Bohneik Itohn wrote:Ocih wrote:8 systems,
23 Anomalies.
1x - 2/10 plex 2x - 1/10 plex 2x - relic sites (did them both - got all T1 salvage and one x T2 ANN)
18x - WH.
15x (class1&2) Unknown parts of space - I don't even bother to jump in to Unknown parts of space WH's. They aren't unknown when they all have 3 or more POS's in them.
1X (class 3 or 4) Dangerous unknown parts of space 1 Null sec (catch region) 1 HS to HS that took me 7 jumps from where I went in. (dogfuck)
This happened in high sec. Edit: Oh, and please take the time to learn wormhole descriptions. Unknown parts is C1-C3, and Dangerous unknown is C5-C6. There is always going to be an abundance of WH connections in high sec because when a static high wanders into a WH, the residents keep it. If they get a wandering into low, null, or another WH, they're likely to close it to reduce risk. Nothing scary comes out of high sec, just the occasional ratting Tengu or exploration Drake that makes a great killmail. Lesson to be learned: if you don't like all of the WH's in high sec, roll them your damn self.
Perhaps you should take the time to learn WH descriptions
I am very much aware of how and why Wormhole mechanics work. I scan to 100% and check every wormhole I get on scan. I waste a lot of time by choice, looking for the HS to HS holes just to see where they come out. I wasn't complaining about more WH's but the OP was saying there were more than usual. He was right. Multiple systems are showing 4 and 5 and nothing else.
As for your assertion about Null holes to High and Lows? No, I have never seen anyone close them. They just despawn after 18 hrs. I ignore the Low sec ones like I do the K-Space ones. It isn't about skeery pirates, sorry I know you need it to be but it isn't. The Null holes I always check in case they lead to an NPC null that I can dock assets in. Or on the off chance I get one to Deklein so I can log assets out in. Though I am sure in the case of Deklein it will get collapsed because heaven forbid anyone show up uninvited. |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
689
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Posted - 2014.08.20 12:05:00 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:I dimly remember there was a guide to quickly identify signature types by strength without scanning down far, anyone knows / can link?
It kinda still works for smaller systems (<30AU dia or very scattered celestials). You use a single (combat) probe and check your results relative strengths. Like there will be a certain common *strongest* (k162s, some other wormholes, easy scannable sites), and some other bands of weaker strength. ( http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp/nullsec.html?str=108&f=5&sec=2 ) this still works.
Just keep in mind to center your combat probe on celestials and adjust the values by gut feeling when results are in the outer half of the sphere.
(Edit: Probes got half their radius as optimal and the second half as falloff, so to say in regards to their scan strength) "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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