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corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:32:00 -
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CCP Masterplan posted some tweets earlier on.
https://twitter.com/CCP_Masterplan/status/500243332048883713
so coming soon sigs will last over down time.
If you read more of the tweets you'll see he mentions "not yet on TQ but on sisi with next update"
Was a little thing alot of people wanted and CCP Masterplan sorted. \o/
http://imgur.com/ilISG20 Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
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CCP Masterplan
C C P C C P Alliance
1593
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:35:00 -
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As of this afternoon, these are now on Sisi. Enjoy :) "This one time, on patch day..." CCP Masterplan -á| -áTeam Five-0: Rewriting the law |
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
627
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:40:00 -
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LITTLE LATE THERE CORBEXX
But yeah, this is p cool. Maybe a little annoying, not sure. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Bleedingthrough
Raptor Navy
92
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:44:00 -
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Awesome change! |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2619
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:45:00 -
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Is this that thing Fozzie hinted during live stream? Invalid signature format |
Jaari Val'Dara
Grim Sleepers Ocularis Inferno
95
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:47:00 -
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I don't know how to feel about it. Currently it is very easy to notice new sigs, after this change it will be harder, you will have to know what was there before. On the other hand if you are writing everything down it will be very useful. |
Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
77
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:51:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:We've looked into this a few times, and it's not trivial to change. Involves a pretty fundamental part of the process that the server uses to create dynamic locations in space.
I know this is just about the most frustrating possible answer, but all I can say for now is that yes we'd ideally like these IDs to persist over downtime but I don't know when we might get it done.
So that took almost 2 weeks
No more siggyduty after DT. There will be hundreds of joyfull Aussies. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
674
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:58:00 -
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Aussies ? Hell half the planet rejoices Yaay!!!! |
Rei Moon
Murderous Inc
43
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Posted - 2014.08.15 16:07:00 -
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+100000000000000 <3 CCP |
Elana Apgar
DarkMatter-Industries Upholders
6
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Posted - 2014.08.15 16:15:00 -
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Why do we need this change?
It's more of a hindrance then a help, because when you jump into a new wormhole, you will have no idea which signature has a greater chance of being a wormhole. It will make wormhole diving more painful.
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Chesterfield Fancypantz
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve WormHole Occupation and Resource Exploitation
11
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Posted - 2014.08.15 16:57:00 -
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Praise Bob! |
LastRound
The Not Elite Four
3
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:08:00 -
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Elana Apgar wrote:Why do we need this change?
It's more of a hindrance then a help, because when you jump into a new wormhole, you will have no idea which signature has a greater chance of being a wormhole. It will make wormhole diving more painful.
Pretty much this, it benefits the people who play around downtime but for the rest of us who usually don't start scanning our chains out until several hours after downtime well it makes it more difficult in some ways. |
Demerlis
Blue-Fire
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:16:00 -
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great change. i don't understand why people are going abloo bloo over this. you have to scan anyway, get over yourself being inconvenienced for an extra 1 minute. it's not like you don't waste enough time doing other things. |
Van Kuzco
Stryker Industries
77
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:30:00 -
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I love you. |
Jezza McWaffle
Pandora Sphere Disavowed.
139
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:31:00 -
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Can I buy your hand in marriage? C6 Wormhole blog http://holelotofwaffle.wordpress.com/ |
Bronya Boga
Isogen 5
437
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Posted - 2014.08.15 17:50:00 -
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LastRound wrote:Elana Apgar wrote:Why do we need this change?
It's more of a hindrance then a help, because when you jump into a new wormhole, you will have no idea which signature has a greater chance of being a wormhole. It will make wormhole diving more painful.
Pretty much this, it benefits the people who play around downtime but for the rest of us who usually don't start scanning our chains out until several hours after downtime well it makes it more difficult in some ways.
I dont get how. Explain. Host of Down The Pipe-áIngame Channel DTP Podcast www.downthepipe-wh.com GÇïIsogen 5 is recruiting. Check us out
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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
71
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Posted - 2014.08.15 18:05:00 -
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Maeh |
LastRound
The Not Elite Four
3
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Posted - 2014.08.15 18:13:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:LastRound wrote:Elana Apgar wrote:Why do we need this change?
It's more of a hindrance then a help, because when you jump into a new wormhole, you will have no idea which signature has a greater chance of being a wormhole. It will make wormhole diving more painful.
Pretty much this, it benefits the people who play around downtime but for the rest of us who usually don't start scanning our chains out until several hours after downtime well it makes it more difficult in some ways. I dont get how. Explain.
Because the signatures reset at downtime and all follow the same general formula if I enter a system and the sigs are:
adc ddc kdc ydc zmw
I will be scanning zmw as it is a newer signature, that is the signature appeared after downtime. If I am data or relic hunting in null it could be a site I want, or in wspace it is very often a new wormhole signature.
With the new system in place that adc signature can persist for weeks if no one wants to run it, but the rest of the signatures might be cleared, you'd get a system that looked like:
adc vwr kdj rty
ETC. I can't make any sense of that or what is newer so I will have to scan down all the signatures. I Understand both sides of the issue, for me it's more of a pain in the ass, for the people that scan before and after downtime well it will help them greatly as they won't have to rescan everything after downtime.
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Bronya Boga
Isogen 5
438
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:22:00 -
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LastRound wrote:Bronya Boga wrote:LastRound wrote:Elana Apgar wrote:Why do we need this change?
It's more of a hindrance then a help, because when you jump into a new wormhole, you will have no idea which signature has a greater chance of being a wormhole. It will make wormhole diving more painful.
Pretty much this, it benefits the people who play around downtime but for the rest of us who usually don't start scanning our chains out until several hours after downtime well it makes it more difficult in some ways. I dont get how. Explain. Because the signatures reset at downtime and all follow the same general formula if I enter a system and the sigs are: adc ddc kdc ydc zmw I will be scanning zmw as it is a newer signature, that is the signature appeared after downtime. If I am data or relic hunting in null it could be a site I want, or in wspace it is very often a new wormhole signature. With the new system in place that adc signature can persist for weeks if no one wants to run it, but the rest of the signatures might be cleared, you'd get a system that looked like: adc vwr kdj rty ETC. I can't make any sense of that or what is newer so I will have to scan down all the signatures. I Understand both sides of the issue, for me it's more of a pain in the ass, for the people that scan before and after downtime well it will help them greatly as they won't have to rescan everything after downtime.
Unless you dont plan on scanning the system all the way (dont know why you wouldn't) I dont see a problem. Host of Down The Pipe-áIngame Channel DTP Podcast www.downthepipe-wh.com GÇïIsogen 5 is recruiting. Check us out
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Demerlis
Blue-Fire
16
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Posted - 2014.08.15 19:58:00 -
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I am happy because sigs no longer have to be rescanned each day after downtime to match up the previous day's sigs with today's sigs.
when i go into another wormhole, i don't know what's in there to begin with, so i scan everything. not just the new sigs like a skrub. |
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Rei Moon
Murderous Inc
43
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:04:00 -
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Demerlis wrote:I am happy because sigs no longer have to be rescanned each day after downtime to match up the previous day's sigs with today's sigs.
when i go into another wormhole, i don't know what's in there to begin with, so i scan everything. not just the new sigs like a skrub. Pretty much this, you won't know if there are other wormholes, you'll have to scan all the system anyway. Unless you are a shcrub. |
Missy Bunnz
Team Pizza The Hole Next Door
15
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:18:00 -
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The real question. Will ships also retain the same sigID's across downtimes? |
Sith1s Spectre
Rolled Out
1154
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Posted - 2014.08.15 20:43:00 -
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Finally the AU tz gets a win.
This change has put a smile on my face :)
GÖÑ Sith Rolled Out 2.0 is back. -áBut not in the way you're probably thinking-á
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LastRound
The Not Elite Four
3
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:01:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote: Unless you dont plan on scanning the system all the way (dont know why you wouldn't) I dont see a problem.
Often I don't. If I am just daytripping or trying to get a quick way out it saves me some time. I never said it was a huge inconvenience. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
3669
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:15:00 -
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YAY! More dumbing down of WH space!!!
Whatever, it's what the mindless masses want. To me the change is irrelevant since the IDs on sigs have no bearing on on scanning *shrug* Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |
Winthorp
2559
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:15:00 -
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Like i said in my other thread thanks for prodding them CCP Fozzie. And thanks CCP Masterplan, you are indeed a space wizard. |
Winthorp
2559
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:16:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:YAY! More dumbing down of WH space!!!
Geez Jack calm it down on the bitterness pills bro. |
Saisin
State War Academy Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:23:00 -
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Great change, and now we can keep track of the codes when doing the bookmarks, as they will be meaningful for more than beyond the downtime..
Regarding ships, I assume that after the downtime, they still get a new code when they log in... Is that right? How about going all the way and having each ship have an unique signature code, that persists across the life of the ship?
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope http://turamarths-evelife.blogspot.com/2014/05/ok-now-im-betting-man.html |
Kirasten
No Vacancies
36
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:49:00 -
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I will sometimes scan the new Sig first, because I'm curious. But if you aren't scanning the whole system down anyway, you are doing it wrong. |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1026
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Posted - 2014.08.15 23:21:00 -
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Excellent change, much appreciated, as to whether this is the change Fozzie referred to who knows, this is Fozzie, he always likes to keep people guessing.
Sometimes he can surprise the socks off us.
Sometimes the Evil Fozzie but always expect the unexpected. There is always the possibility that the good fozzie can escape.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
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