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Arctic Ice
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 22:53:00 -
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with jammers being far to overpowered and used on everyship there needs to be a change,
i ask you this, what is the point of having a scorp or a blackbird which are ment to fit ew and have serious damage limitation because of that fact when u can get a domi with all nos and all multis with 1 multi jamming any ship no matter the skills??
Jammers are part of the Caldari way of fighting not gallente or any other race!
i personally think that there should be a fitting penalty (like strip miners and covert ops cloakers) to the devices making it harder for the non spec ships to jam a rifter with a gallente jammer. This inturn would make the whole PVP aspect better as i know lots of people who despise EW and think the same way i do? Really what is the point of the the scorp or the bb which i have to say are never used much anymore.
I know ill get flammed for this post but hey it needs to be changed Tell me and I forget, Show me and I remember, Involve me and I understand |
Maya Rkell
Corsets and Carebears
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Posted - 2006.07.18 22:59:00 -
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There are long topics about this in Ships&Modules.
Firstly, what level is your cleric?
Second, this sort of artificial limit is bad enough when it's applied to speed modules, it's even worse when you apply it to others. You alter the module to make the bonus worthwhile, not artifically set limits on what modules you can use - that;s a pale shadow of properly balancing it.
Partial jamming++
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Da'Neth
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.18 23:00:00 -
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agreed.
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Arctic Ice
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 23:04:00 -
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i have some electronic skill to 4 the rest to 5 (t2 jammers)
do you not see my point with the scorp and hte bb being designed for ew ONLY and a domi being able to use the same modules which are ment to be specally for those 2 ships? i mean really what is the point of the low DPS scorp when other races can jam AND have higher DPS?
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Maya Rkell
Corsets and Carebears
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Posted - 2006.07.18 23:06:00 -
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The argument is with the method you've selected, which runs badly contrary to nearly all (MWD/AB being the only exception) other balancing in Eve. Moreover, I don'r even believe that it is a good method.
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Arctic Ice
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Arctic Ice on 18/07/2006 23:08:21 i posted it in here becuase its an idea to put a fitting penalty on ew modules not in ships and modules hoping that some people whould agree with me that it is too widely used and makes pvp very borning when u cant fight back againts a domi with 5 multis.....
if you dont agree then i would love to hear other ideas that are floating about too Tell me and I forget, Show me and I remember, Involve me and I understand |
Arctic Ice
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.18 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell The argument is with the method you've selected, which runs badly contrary to nearly all (MWD/AB being the only exception) other balancing in Eve. Moreover, I don'r even believe that it is a good method.
but is it not true that the domi should not have ew fitted at all? its ment to be a blaster ship with drones and a nasty tank rather then a ew platform,
IMO no ship other then those designed for ew should beable to use the modules Tell me and I forget, Show me and I remember, Involve me and I understand |
Maya Rkell
Corsets and Carebears
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Posted - 2006.07.18 23:31:00 -
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The same idea has been dicussed several times in the S&M thread, and that is what the devs are reading.
The Domi should be fully capeable of fitting any module which its capacitor and grid allow it to mount. This does not mean that EW should work as it does today, but breaking the fitting rules of Eve is not a good way to begin a proposal for balancing a module.
That sort of "specalist module" is restricted to non-combat and T2 role-critical ships for very, very good reasons. Limiting one race's EW...well, you can't, you have to do it with ALL the race's EW, and seriously limit how much EW will typically be deployed, heavily promoting gank gameplay and reducing setup diversity. That isn't good either.
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Reggie Stoneloader
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Posted - 2006.07.19 05:58:00 -
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Edited by: Reggie Stoneloader on 19/07/2006 05:57:55 I think a nerf to ECM, and a bonus to ECM ships that negates it, might be fine. Give them 5x the cap use, and give ECM ships an 80% reduction in cap use for ECM modules. You won't see them on tacklers any more, but a Blackbird, Scorpion or Rook will still be a worthwhile choice. Heck, it would give the Griffin a new lease on life, that's for sure.
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Arctic Ice
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:01:00 -
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^^ that is the kind of thing i was trying to get at right there Tell me and I forget, Show me and I remember, Involve me and I understand |
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Maya Rkell
Corsets and Carebears
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:31:00 -
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How is moving from mandatory ECM modules to mandatory ECM ship useful? Moreover, what other bonus are they going to give up for that ECM cap usage one?
No, better to address the actual issues (like total jams)
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