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ParMizaN
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:10:00 -
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I would laugh at people getting stuck in the new regions out of jump fuel :D
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Kingdoc
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:22:00 -
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Sigh... mohterships, dreds, pos's.... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It would have been nice to see the little guy get a peice of the action but it dosent look like that will happen.
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:47:00 -
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Right so only carriar pilots and ships with cynos can jump in?
So The only pilots able to be in that space the first few months would be a hand few.As only motherships have the ability for clone jumping.And i believe very few people have one BOB and EST being the only two i can think of.
So basicly only dread and carriar owners/pilots
Also what about the small guys? They can't just build a mothership,with how agressive everyone gets to anyone building em.
If ya ask me this should be a great spot for some pirating  .People moving cargo in and around everywhere O my! Im getting gitty like a school girl just from thinking about the haulers =P
The jump idea sounds fun but sence its so limit it kinda sinks.Unless we have a way for the smaller guys to get in.Then its just pointless isn't it?Well a new jump method would be nice i guess something besides a gate =)
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Fortior
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:49:00 -
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The only way for a little guy to get a piece of 0.0 action in EVE is for him to become a big mean SOB. The new regions won't be different.
 Originally by: Kingdoc
Sigh... mohterships, dreds, pos's.... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It would have been nice to see the little guy get a peice of the action but it dosent look like that will happen.
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Quutar
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kingdoc
Sigh... mohterships, dreds, pos's.... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It would have been nice to see the little guy get a peice of the action but it dosent look like that will happen.
This I find funny.
If these new regions are valuble, then the rich would have the best ability to take, hold, and exploit those resources. The only time that new resources have been made "availible" to the little guy has been forced migration (won't ever happen in eve) and lottery style give outs (Tech 2 lottery anybody... it was fair to the little guy... except when any little guy won... they sold the bpo to a big guy, then *****ed about the lack of availiblity)
I see the groups/factions that have the best organization and resources being able to carve out a home in these new regions. It is going to be hard, harder than 0.0 is currently... so you assume the "little guys" with no experiance will be able to walk right in and take it... and magically figure out a way to keep those with bigger guns from taking it from you?
Eve is about social evolution... only the strong survive out in 0.0. Strength has many forms, and not always in combat skill. But, strength will hold these regions, not some forced "welfare" system for little guys.
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Ghaulth
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kingdoc
Sigh... mohterships, dreds, pos's.... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It would have been nice to see the little guy get a peice of the action but it dosent look like that will happen.
If the rich move on to greener pastures, the poor (by which, I assume, you mean those who don't currently have a piece of the 0.0 pie) will move into the areas that are left vacant.
8 new systems is a lot. Assuming the new regions have resources just marginally better than the current top-end regions, it would make more sense to abandon current holdings, than try to hold them, if you want to make a land-grab. The last thing you want to do is spread yourself too thin by defending more resources than you can effectively exploit.
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Eximius Josari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.07.19 20:50:00 -
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I can't wait to see who else will be there with us.
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Wizard
Without Reason
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Posted - 2006.07.19 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Not to be an ass or anything, but why would someone QUIT over this? Heck, if some of the bigger alliances moved to the new regions to go WTFPWN each other it would just mean more oppertunity for those left behind to WTFPWN each other over the regions left behind.
WTFPWNAGE for all!! \o/
I don't see the problem here tbh. 
I didnt say i would quit, its just that it would be another nail in my coffin so to speak, just getting hacked off with missing on loads of storyline content, tourny etc content just because im not in an alliance.
The idea of not having normal means of travel and ways in like we have now to these new areas basically means people like me will NEVER be able to explore and test there areas themselves, would really suck.
Ive been giving this some thought and heres my idea.
Have like 2-3 choke/entry points to every new region but have it so they occur in different systems randomly from the neighboring existing regions/parts of empire....kind of like the palace in the old film called krull.
So basically you have like a 6 hour window or somthing when you find a jumpgate to actually be able to use it to get to the region.
Personally i would prefer them all to appear from low sec empire space thus preventing the existing mega powers within eve to just go next door from where they currently reside and shut them off from other eve players.
It would increase the lvl of fun and unexpectedness in eve massivly, would stop aliances from putting outposts up in systems of chokepoints for defense which gain them massive advantage.
 Imagine having a mining op with all nice new ore and a jumpgate apear in system, people start filtering in and wrecking the op etc, would create more risk.
Gate campers would be fecked also cos imagine if they sit either side of gate with backup and the gate disapears, half ther gang stranded in hostile territory....they now become the hunted 
Plz CCP think of the smaller corps/aliances and allow us a better foothold into new content.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.07.19 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 19/07/2006 21:51:51
I hope the ore there to be decent but pirates to be horrible, making it less interesting for the PvP crowd. Think Angel loot and difficulty and no bounty.
In addition some worthwhile moons would be nice.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Hellraiza666
Regeneration
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.19 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
Originally by: Hellraiza666
and the pre-nerfed crew are making babies.
i'll issue the order for Emray to make babies with you.
what about tod ♥
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Quutar
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.19 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 19/07/2006 21:51:51
I hope the ore there to be decent but pirates to be horrible, making it less interesting for the PvP crowd. Think Angel loot and difficulty and no bounty.
In addition some worthwhile moons would be nice.
Well, back last patch they changed for a short time all the rogue drones in the game. No or little "loot" but added bounties. Also changed thier behaviour and other things... This was rolled back, and it was stated by one of the devs that this was a kali DB release that accedentaly got rolled in, and was meant to be the rogue drones in the new unreleased regions.
So I think that rogue drones will be one of the larger NPCs in the new regions... maybe even a 10/10 rogue drone complex?
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Jovius Marginus
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Posted - 2006.07.19 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jovius Marginus on 19/07/2006 22:00:20
Something like http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=366865&page=1 could help with Seleene's idea.
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Jay Phor
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.19 22:44:00 -
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poor Bookmakers
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Logan Williams
Super Nova Cartel
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Posted - 2006.07.19 23:36:00 -
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A very wise man once told me "Be holding Great Wildlands whenever they open that space." This has been over a year and a half ago.
JUKO-1 is perhaps the closest system to the new group of regions. Somewhere in the V-IH finger there is almost guaranteed to be an entrance.
Originally by: Logan Williams
Cry CYVOK and let slip the geeks of diplomacy
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emptydude
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Posted - 2006.07.19 23:41:00 -
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if they do make it so you have to use a jump drive to get in, i doubt that the new regions would see much action until an alliance makes a concerted effort to get established out there. the logisitics of using a carrier in unknown space would be too difficult for most.
maybe have something like an old deepspace gate has been discovered in a newly colonized system. this gate (being old and battered) has a dodgy power supply, and only works for x hours a day, at random times. gives the chance for the opportunists to get setup out there, and cuts down on the chance of permanent camping.
or have real smuggler gates. something like concord intelligence has been leaked of a smuggler gate in a system. players have to scan down this gate to get access to the new regions. maybe make it more interesting, by saying only the region where the gate is? then if you find one you could keep it seeekrit.
either way, i predict a lot of non-action whilst big alliances scout out the area, and small groups dive in head first and try to find a nice little corner. i doubt anyone will make a serious claim until they have seen where is the most easily defendable nd stuff.
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JeanPierre Rothschilde
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Posted - 2006.07.20 00:06:00 -
[106]
Er... Forget getting to the new regions for a second, how would you move around in the new 8 regions? They all mysteriously have gates ready built?
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TheDevilsJury
O.R.C. Outrage Compliant
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Posted - 2006.07.20 00:12:00 -
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The Obvious RP option CCP could take for all the gates "appearing" is that for years up to now the empires have been exploring unknown space and building gates, and the gates are now ready.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.07.20 00:30:00 -
[108]
its all mine, stay the hell out.
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Constantinee
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 01:56:00 -
[109]
I say the souther coalition takes cntrl of it and will at some poitn collide with d2 the goonies and Center for disese in the middle leaving syndiacte and the upper left regions open for BoB to take from d2 and all those people.
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.07.20 04:23:00 -
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Hmm considering it would be unfair to spawn the new 0.0 cosmos systems in any current regions.As it would seem devs are aligned with w.e alliance is there.
Anybody think they will all be in the new regions.Making them a lot more desirable.
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: JeanPierre Rothschilde
Er... Forget getting to the new regions for a second, how would you move around in the new 8 regions? They all mysteriously have gates ready built?
Presumably, jovian gates.
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 04:34:00 -
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Honestly, I think the new regions should be a wedge, furthest ones out best truesec, closest ones in worst truesec, and the worst-truesec systems *adjacent to and accessible from empire space*.
That way you'll get a real free for all. All these complex "only let people with motherships in" plans will just mean that the top alliances partition it out diplomatically between themselves before most people get a chance to run around in it.
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Ric Tishek
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.20 06:27:00 -
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If the new regions are also the new COSMOS regions, I'd link them to our universe through ancient jumpgates in current COSMOS constellations.
The advantages are obvious:
- No current alliance / group can control the chokepoints with their existing claims.
- The stargates in the new regions are then leftovers of the Talocan, Yan-Jung etc.
- It's possible to limit the gates with keys, that have to be found / gained with research or loyalty points first.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.20 07:09:00 -
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Hehe. This remind me on America when ppl had to race to mark the lend they wish to live on. Some lost everything they had, some low life scum get a fortune, some found their little heaven, etc,etc.
I guess this wont be much different. Many expensive ships/loot will be gonne.
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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Sharcy
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sharcy on 20/07/2006 07:22:50
Originally by: Larsson7
Firstly - How do CCP announce the release of 8 new regions? Does the news item look something like this:
"Scientists today are baffled that "X" amount of stargates have suddenly just "appeared" in the Universe. No one knows where they came from but now we have 8 new regions. YAY!"
That is not only implausible but quite silly - especially from a game mechanics perspective.
Not to diminish your idea about echos from an ancient civilization, but keep in mind we already have that civilization in EVE, as a Deus Ex Machina: the Jove  . I think CCP will never develop them into the game as an additional race really, just to be able to use them for explaining developments like this 
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OzaLoni
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.20 08:08:00 -
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Hehe after reading through some of the ideas we could kill off bm's for good with the new regions...
Make the regions have strange effects causing jump gates to appear and disappear.. thus making bms totally useless.. people guessing as to which way they have to travel. Local could display just the number of people, but not who... they only appear when you can phyiscally see them..
Each region could have different effects etc
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Wrok
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 08:39:00 -
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ALL THE PIE WATS WILL MOVE TO THE ARA...and gank stuff... plain and simple
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Selfe
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 08:59:00 -
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Id like to see some of the smaller alliances try to claim a peace. The first few weeks would be interesteding towatch what happeneds.
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Xthril Ranger
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.07.20 09:56:00 -
[119]
Originally by: xeom
Hmm considering it would be unfair to spawn the new 0.0 cosmos systems in any current regions.As it would seem devs are aligned with w.e alliance is there.
Anybody think they will all be in the new regions.Making them a lot more desirable.
4 of the cosmos regions will probably be existing npc pirate faction regions.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.07.20 10:05:00 -
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CCP stated 1 or 2 new pirate factions as well as rogue drones going in. Good idea to
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