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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4012
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:49:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:pretty funny listening to some of these kids who live on the forums giving parenting advice. Just goes to show you that most of these regulars will give advice on things they have no experience with. Color me surprised. Has it occurred to you that the reason why some of us shiptoast on the forums regularly may have something to do with having more important things to do than play games?
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
832
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:51:00 -
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Amarr Citizen 1312151005 wrote:DaReaper wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Father(stay at home) of twin boys , 3yolds. hunting my fellow man is all that keeps me sane. You, my friend, have my deepest sympathies. I told my wife that if we have twins with this next one, that we are giving one to the circus. Of course my three year old daughter latched onto this, and keeps saying that "we have to give the ugly one to the circus, I want to keep the cute one." hahahaha thats adoreable Also a complete lie. A child of age 3 will not have that kind of sentence structure, let alone the understanding of twins. It is more likely if the story is even true that the child is repeating what it has heard. Would also be more like send ugly one circus rather than the sentence example above. Was most likely a one time deal. Unless of course it is talked about daily and even then the child would just be repeating what it heard with no compression of what it's saying.
actually not true at al, my son at 3 will not shut up, he talks perfectly fine, and is in the 'I love it phase' He says things like
'um.. dad.. whats that?' "That is my PoS son." "OH! I love your PoS dad!"
or "Dad what you doing?" "Playing eve.." "I want to play!" "um ok..." *sets on lap* "no don't hit that... so don't self destrouct.. stop that!" "dad go there! I love that!" "sigh..." In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1493
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:15:00 -
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Send your wife to work and become a stay at home dad. Once your daughter is school age that's 6-7 hours smack in the middle of the day where there's nothing for you to do. Epic Space Cat |
Don Purple
The Pursuit of Happiness
383
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:18:00 -
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Benar Ellecon wrote:In line with the original question... I have a 9 year old girl, a 5 year old boy, and we just had our third, another girl! Yes, I have to wait until after bedtime to get some playing in now for a while and mostly tend to the skill queue, but that is ok with me for now. I still get to do some solo roaming at night and now I am getting into a bit of industry as well (never really touched it) and looking at some market trading. I feel there is always something to do in the game although I cannot be on as mush as I was until the little tot gets a little older. The best part is the older sister can give a helping hand to alleviate some of the burden. It is no big deal. The game does not rule my life; I enjoy it for what it is: a game.
Benar is one of the greatest guys i know. He has given me great advice in the past and I miss him!
I am just here to snuggle. |
Loreena Syrkos
Aramean Excavations
0
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:04:00 -
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I have been playing for 7 years, with two kids born in that time - I never really stopped playing. Anything where you need to be able to concentrate solely on the game for any length of time is almost impossible, so you have to move those activities to after their bedtime.
For most other activities, EVE is a very forgiving game when it comes to playing semi-afk often - if you are careful that is. I gave up long ago on living in null or low, where you simply have to be at the helm. I do not mind at all though, there are many things you can enjoy with a more casual playstyle. These days I have an EVE client open almost all the time, but it is more as a glorifiied chat client :)
In fact I think EVE is uniquely suited to playing semi-afk. You do not have to hold the mouse or press keys all the time while you are playing, as compared with, say, The Elder Scrolls Online. Of course this is not true for all EVE playstyles, but there are enough to keep you occupied - you just have to find those that are fun for you. I know some players that only like the PvP side, I imagine that has the potential to be rather frustrating and possibly disrupting if you have to make room for undisturbed gaming sessions. Kids do not choose when they need you! |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
1300
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:33:00 -
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Logged on 2 or 3 days ago just to check a contract. Had my 2 week old on one arm...other One clicked undock button and d-scan just out of curiosity...ended up willing a Drake and a Merlin in my Comet literally single handed. Of course I only get very limited time to okay but that is just fine
Less game time improves my solo play. The fact that Eve is the only game I play really helps with my wife though. She knows I need some "staring into flames" to relax fein time to time ;-) TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
326
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Posted - 2014.08.20 00:05:00 -
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If there's a big op scheduled I'll give the kid a shot of Nyquil. Sometimes I'll mix it in some 7-Up, tastes pretty good.
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Mrs Ros
Epilogue Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:01:00 -
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haven't had one in nappies since before Eve started sooo, little background....
starting with UO, we taught them to drag/drop potions into kegs (before macro/auto fill days): lesson learnt - left for two secs, 1 1/2 yr olds CAN double click! Lil booger'd drunk a deadly poison, alchemist was dead and wandering about outside her house (in Fel, pre-Trammel ie - null sec in a pod)
second one was born, still playing UO, I did a lot of fishing. Made it very interesting when the odd sea serpent showed up, as I was usually nursing/holding baby in one arm at the same time.
next step, Asheron's Call - our oldest then maybe 7 did the Queen's Quest (a fairly cooperative, involved quest) and listened better than most adult's our leader'd taken thru before
then we had a break for some time as they lost interest or started school. Every now and again one or other would demand "their" mmo time and we'd let them play our mules or what have you. Next warning: they will get your character killed. In fact we had a great clearing out of our accounts (some items drop when you died) as we found the boys' were taking the mules up to Greenspire tower, jumping them off, thus killing them, giggling madly and dashing up the stairs to do it again.
So, relevant to Eve, this is about the time hubby got into Eve and our oldest decided to play for a bit. He got bored easily, as he was maybe 12? 13? and went off to play some other game, I don't remember what.
jump forward to today: youngest is into FPSs and is an avid Dustbunny (pretty good too tbh, his hand eye coordination rocks) middle child has just gotten into Eve, which frankly, I'm thrilled about as he's not the diletant his brothers seem to be and would rather play one game, for forever oldest one... eh, he's almost ready to graduate so I'm not trying to distract him too much for an MMO, not when he's going to be starting college soon (No idea how I'd have graduated if MMOs'd been around like they are now!)
So, my advice, find an understanding corp, first of all. You may want to (gasp) mine for a while, or other sedate activities. Realize you may well be having to give up time to be with your newb, and enjoy it, it's trite and true, but very very accurate as well: they really do grow up way to dang fast. Mine were just banging on the keyboard a little bit ago, now they're almost ready to leave home.
As soon as they can hold a mouse, they can play (in limited fashion). SWG was great while it lasted for the ability to throw multiple people in one vehicle and cavort around.
When they're ready - well you'll know, or have a good idea. Raise them to appreciate games but be balanced - and show them, by breaking off from the game when they need something. Before you know it you'll have your own newb corp members ;)
I could ramble about this forever, obviously, but basically our household motto is the family that slays together, stays together =D Good luck! |
Llawa
Exiled Kings The Fearless Empire
10
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Posted - 2014.08.20 10:42:00 -
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Join a corp that has other parents Use a laptop (remember, you don't need to push to talk when conversing with your family) Fit a cloak
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1455
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Posted - 2014.08.20 10:59:00 -
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Not like this. |
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Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy
141
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Posted - 2014.08.20 16:23:00 -
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Toddlers sleep all night long. Problem solved.
If you're trying to play while they're awake, don't. Or hunt close to home in systems that you can dock in.
Learn to solo and you can kill people in any 10 minute window of opportunity you have.
Move to FW lowsec, forget about your sec status , undock and basicly shoot everything.
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Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries
54
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Posted - 2014.08.20 16:40:00 -
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when they're asleep or when they're watching TV (which isn't all that often).
I've died to the children needing me for whatever, but hey if I've undocked I count that ship as a loss anyway, if somehow I dock back up in it, that's a bonus.
what's harder is avoiding wife aggro |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
186
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Posted - 2014.08.20 16:43:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:I didn't play any game but Parenting for twenty+ years. I don't see how anyone could possibly pursue a gaming interest, properly maintain a household and raise children at the same time. I see people claiming they're doing it all the time. I have serious doubts. What makes this very difficult is how the economy has devolved into a form of economic slavery requiring two spouses to work in order to make ends meet. (I think my sleep went back to normal around three years after the last one moved out.) I'm not going to go into a morality/sociology diatribe about it. Unfortunately, like designer coffee, parents get to raise their kids "how they see fit" in this world. That's often a mask for "not raise them at all"; fast food diets, parking the offspring in front of the Cartoon Channel...then we laugh at generations that can't find their own state on a map. To each his own. You're free to ruin your progeny after your own image. My ultimate view is - you can't raise kids and seriously game. Impossible. One or the other will suffer. Love Child - The documentary
Usually they go to bed somewhen, so unhealthy gaming is still possible with kids.
The weekend sessions however are over for I guess the next 20 yrs.
So, you certainly won't lead alliances as a parent.
At least you shouldn't. |
Sydian Rie
No-Mercy Negative Waves
1
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Posted - 2014.08.20 17:20:00 -
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Married with a 12yr, 2yr and 6 month old.
I log in around 10:30 - 11pm, go to bed at 3 sometimes 3:30am after i feed my son his last bottle and wake up at 7:30 - 8am. I have not figured out another way to get more play time in. Weekends aren't much different as there are still things to do around the house until the sun goes down.
The tricky part is getting enough personal time but also not leaving all the parenting responsibility to the wife, which is why I take care of the little ones after my wife goes to bed and until I go to bed. I BLINK therefore I am broke... |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7719
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Posted - 2014.08.20 17:28:00 -
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I used to play EVE (and be on teamspeak while doing it) with my step-grandaughter sitting in here high chair right next to me. I'm not kidding when I tell you this, one of her 1st words was "BOMB!". When she was almost 3 she'd walk around and see a computer or TV screen that looked like my monitor. She'd look at me and point and scream "BOMB!"
It was all fun and games till that day she almost did it while we were waiting to pick up her father (who is in the Army)...................from the airport.
She pointed at the screen that had arrivals on it and I knew what she was about to say so I...stopped her from screaming something that wouldn't go over with TSA standing there. Then I had to explain why I tackled a 3 year old.
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1264
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Posted - 2014.08.20 17:32:00 -
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In a cellar, barred windows, locked doors, only one broken light bulb that seems to emit nothing but darkness, no natural light ever touches my skin down there. Wifey once came in (she has a key and all that) I hissed at her quite furiously...
Mysteriously all the electric fuses for our cellar were gone for a month afterwards... Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Juan Diolosa
Codename-47
21
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Posted - 2014.08.20 17:51:00 -
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I went on a week-long business trip last year. I forgot to set my skill-queue and my PI.
I knew my my daughter would be up getting ready for school just after DT so I called her and told her to log into my account and I walked her through doing both tasks.
Just as we were on the last planet, I heard the angry sounding voice of my wife asking why my daughter was on the computer playing games and talking on the phone when she should be at the bus stop...
Daughter -> MOOOOOM! IT'S DADDY'S PEE EYE! I HAVE TO SET IT OR HE LOSES ISKS!
Wife -> WTF did you just say?! Is that your father on the phone?!
Daughter -> JEEZE MOM, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. DADDY'S CURLY CUE IS EMPTY.
Wife -> Give me that GD phone.
- struggle struggle grunt whine -
Wife -> Listen to me, GDI... I don't even know, nor do I care wtf a pee eye is or why you have a curly cue... but we're going to have a conversation when you get back home...
Me -> Love ya, hon... Late for a meeting.
- click -
(daughter missed the bus) |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7719
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Posted - 2014.08.20 17:56:00 -
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Juan Diolosa wrote:I went on a week-long business trip last year. I forgot to set my skill-queue and my PI.
I knew my my daughter would be up getting ready for school just after DT so I called her and told her to log into my account and I walked her through doing both tasks.
Just as we were on the last planet, I heard the angry sounding voice of my wife asking why my daughter was on the computer playing games and talking on the phone when she should be at the bus stop...
Daughter -> MOOOOOM! IT'S DADDY'S PEE EYE! I HAVE TO SET IT OR HE LOSES ISKS!
Wife -> WTF did you just say?! Is that your father on the phone?!
Daughter -> JEEZE MOM, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. DADDY'S CURLY CUE IS EMPTY.
Wife -> Give me that GD phone.
- struggle struggle grunt whine -
Wife -> Listen to me, GDI... I don't even know, nor do I care wtf a pee eye is or why you have a curly cue... but we're going to have a conversation when you get back home...
Me -> Love ya, hon... Late for a meeting.
- click -
(daughter missed the bus)
I am literally crying right now that I read that. I'm glad i wasn't drinking anything or I'd need yet another box of wipes for my keyboard.
It reminds me of the time recently that I showed my wife a little bit of what I do in the game and even took the time to go into CQ to show her my avatar. My female Avatar. My avatar that I, a 40 year old dude, use to play an online video game...that is female.
That was a LONG talk about various subject that night....
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Esmeraelda Jade
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.20 21:41:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:I am literally crying right now that I read that. I'm glad i wasn't drinking anything or I'd need yet another box of wipes for my keyboard. It reminds me of the time recently that I showed my wife a little bit of what I do in the game and even took the time to go into CQ to show her my avatar. My female Avatar. My avatar that I, a 40 year old dude, use to play an online video game...that is female. That was a LONG talk about various uncomfortable subjects that night....
My fiancee has the hardest time understanding why I use female avatars for most of my gaming related activities. It's simple, I'd rather stare at a female than a male one.
As for having a child, I started reading this and thinking," hah! sucks for y'all." Then I realized I might have my own in a 8 or 9 months |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11254
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:50:00 -
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Juan Diolosa wrote:so I called her and told her to log into my account Not the best idea to be admitting this on the forum. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
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Sven Viko VIkolander
Imperium Fleet Heiian Conglomerate
267
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Posted - 2014.08.21 00:15:00 -
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Trying to play EVE when you have kids? I think that's called joining an AUTZ corporation when you live in the states, aka playing in the middle of the night.
Thanks for the stories posters, some funny stuff in this thread! |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
938
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Posted - 2014.08.21 00:37:00 -
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Trash Candice wrote:In your involvement with TEST, were they generally pretty parent-friendly?
TEST were too cool for school, Gewns were pretty much exactly the same sort of atmosphere. Leet PVP entities (you know who you are) are a drag and srs bsnss is not what i need when i log on to my game. Basically it's good to find people in the sweet spot between three points: happy go lucky idiots, incompetent tools, determined go getters. Too much of any of those ingredients wrecks the coffee.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Mark Munoz
ProxyBuilders Goonswarm Federation
157
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Posted - 2014.08.21 02:45:00 -
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I found these quite entertaining. I had a little boy shortly after I started playing and I stopped logging in for about a month. At that time I was a night owl. So I set a deal with the wife that I would have baby duty between 7PM-3AM. So he would go to sleep and I would play and would just go AFK once or twice a night to change and feed the little guy. He is over 2 now. I am not so much a night owl any longer, and my usual routine for the last 6 or so months is Inventions. So I will login when I get home from work and just be AFK. If time permits I will jump on see whats up set some more inventions, market orders, etc.
On weekends I like to try to carve out around 3 hours for EVE actual fun time but the last 2 months or so not even that has happened. Oh well, that is why I love EVE so much. I can still feel very much part of the universe while not feeling like I am being left behind by not being able to grind all day. |
Juan Diolosa
Codename-47
23
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:44:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Juan Diolosa wrote:so I called her and told her to log into my account Not the best idea to be admitting this on the forum. pssshhh.... |
Whipple Shai
Novaku Inc Novaku Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.08.21 18:47:00 -
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I started playing when my kids were 23, 24 and 26.
No problems.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
719
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Posted - 2014.08.21 19:11:00 -
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While gf stayed homee some year and a half my gaming was non affected for most part after she get back to work gaming time is impended for eve but I find other games with fast but revarding pvp as well as uber pve thing is while I can spend 30min jumping freighter around playing fool bashing d scan,
For same amount of time I can colonise few planets run war on 2 fronts and establishing aliance with another, researching I intergalactic propulsion for trade ships to use and pauze the damn thing if my kid or gf want to devote some time for them.
Ie there is time for eve but there are other games too that if you happen to like em will give you more bang for a buck, time vise especially. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Rayo Atra
Aliastra Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:54:00 -
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It is difficult, but I manage.
http://i.imgur.com/wTZT80y.jpg
Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.
-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
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GandolftheWhite
THOU SHALL NOT PASS Brothers of Tangra
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 12:20:00 -
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Whipple Shai wrote:I started playing when my kids were 23, 24 and 26. No problems.
^^
I've known adventures, seen places you people will never see, I've been Offworld and back. I've stood on the back deck of a blinker bound for the Plutition Camps with sweat in my eyes watching the stars fight on the shoulder of Orion. I've seen it, felt it! |
Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2110
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Posted - 2014.08.22 12:24:00 -
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Pro Tip (I have 4 kids): NANNY.
Carry on.
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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flakeys
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2420
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Posted - 2014.08.22 13:14:00 -
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Trash Candice wrote:My little one just turned two, and -- while I've stayed subbed since she's been born -- I haven't really been able to meaningfully engage with the game this whole time. I've settled into a pattern where I keep my skill queue filled. I do some light industry, and I do my hauling at night after she's asleep.
I do have these dreams of a glorious future where I and daddy's little scouting alt go traipsing through the vast reaches of space, but I don't know realistically how far off that future is (if ever).
Since this game has been around long enough for folks to have had families and children, I thought I'd ask the community:
Did you stick around through the early parts of childhood or did you take a break? If you stuck around, what did you find you were able to do to keep you interested and engaged? At what ages or developmental milestones were you able to expand the scope of your play? What did it entail? Did you ever introduce you kids to Eve? If so, at what age and with what restrictions?
Thanks in advance folks!
Got 2 kids , 8 and 5 currently and playing eve for 10 years now Only way to combine it is play when they sleep but as you know being a working parent can be tiresome so the times you do play you usually only play for 1 to max 2 hours.
So that's how you do it play casually , don't get involved in corps/alliances where your presence is required too much and just do what you feel like when you log on.Be it roaming low-sec for an hour , updating some market orders or a few lvl4 missions.Basically you can enjoy about every aspect of eve playing casuall unlike what a lot of people claim to not be possible .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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