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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:35:00 -
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Hey guys,
Apologies for the delay in putting out a notification, IGÇÖve just arrived home from the office after a bit of a busy day talking to various departments to get a handle on how and whatGÇÖs been going on with this situation.
This issue was first brought to the attention of the Community Team by the CSM around 24 hours ago after concern was raised by members of the community regarding the promotion thatGÇÖs currently going on over at SOMERblink.
Myself and CCP Leeloo has been sat with various groups within CCP today and have been in constant contact with the CSM throughout the day to discuss the concerns of the community and make sure that some form of resolution is reached. TheyGÇÖve been very clear, direct and unified with their opinion on the situation, and this is a sentiment that I share with them.
This thread will serve as a place where weGÇÖll be updating you guys on whatGÇÖs going on with this to make sure that thereGÇÖs a central place for information, because itGÇÖs quite clear that this is an issue that the community is taking seriously. ItGÇÖs also something I feel incredibly strongly about.
At this point in time, weGÇÖre investigating exactly whatGÇÖs going on with the whole situation, and IGÇÖve been in contact with our Legal department, Sales and our Information Security team with a view to having this looked into and resolved.
Given the sheer size of the investigation that weGÇÖll be undertaking, this is going to take some time, as a lot of ISK and assets have changed hands. While some temporary action has been taken in order to keep a handle on the situation, any outcome of an investigation is still to be determined, and I canGÇÖt give any further information regarding the process while itGÇÖs ongoing.
ThereGÇÖs not a great deal more that IGÇÖll be able to give you guys tonight, but please be aware, and rest assured, that you will not be stonewalled over this, and within reason the Community Team will be letting you guys know exactly whatGÇÖs going on as and when we can release more information.
IGÇÖm hoping to have more on this for you guys tomorrow as we look into this further, but for now, this is just to let you all know that your voices have been heard, weGÇÖre actively looking at the situation, and will feed back as soon as we have more information that we can share.
We'll be locking all the other threads that are discussing this, and diverting them here to keep feedback concise and centralized in one place, so please feel free to use this thread to talk about the issue openly.
Just remember to keep it civil and within the forum rules, which also means no discussion of warnings and bans.
Thanks for your patience,
- F CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:40:00 -
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The community team rocks, thanks for all your hard work on this thus far and for the communication you've had with us on all this.
One question I have to ask though, was the community team consulted about this at all ahead of time? |
Ali Aras
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
716
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:41:00 -
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Thanks for the updates-- given the investigation, I assume we can conclude that the reports of this being 100% okay with CCP are greatly exaggerated?
And yeah. For me, at least, I just want the RMT lines to be clear-- I was there for this last year, it was ******, and it seems like it's something nobody wants to see happening again. http://warp-to-sun.tumblr.com -- my blog |
Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:43:00 -
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Great post Falcon - just want to echo what Sion said about being open in speaking on the subject with us.
Again though, as Sion suggests, your post hints that this may have not been an equilateral decision within the company. Is it worth making this more clear in your post or did Community have any wind of this situation before 48 hours ago? www.crossingzebras.com |
DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
314
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:45:00 -
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reserved CSM9 Factional Warfare/Lowsec Representative Radio Host, Blogger, Lowsec Resident, PvP Afficionado. http://funkybacon.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/FunkyBacon |
Sugar Kyle
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:46:00 -
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CCP Falcon and CCP Leeloo have been very open to our questions and the questions that we have brought forward from the community starting from last night.
I've recently been asked about accounts used for businesses and what account usage qualifies as a business reference this part of the EULA:
Quote:"Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited." Low Sec Lifestyle - A Blog |
DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:46:00 -
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TY Live on Eve Radio Sundays 18:00 GMT with me & friends blabbering on about Eve and stuff-áFollow me on twitter http://twitter.com/WigglesGRN, like me on facebook http://facebook.com/wigglesGRN Or check the show page http://show.gamingradio.net
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Nadine Jones
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:48:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74632
Quote:Any involvement in RMT is a permanent ban on first offense
With this already being the second I'd think there is little to discuss in terms of consequences? |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:49:00 -
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Good to see some action.
The less RMT, the better. Can't stamp it out completely, but you can try.
Either this was a GM error (someone gave SOMER permission to do this and should not have) in which case a firm announcement of an 'Oops, this isn't happening again' is sufficient, or it was blatant RMT. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Dirk MacGirk
Specter Syndicate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:50:00 -
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Thank you for the update and the time and effort I'm sure you're all putting into this. |
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:50:00 -
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Same old ****
Concord Approved Trader |
Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:52:00 -
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Hopefully somer gets more than a slap on the wrist and some ship skins this time. |
Guillane Itaril
Hoover Inc. Pandemic Legion
91
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:53:00 -
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All I want to say is sorry for making the original thread on reddit at an unfortunate timezone :) Thanks for reacting so quickly! |
Psianh Auvyander
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:54:00 -
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I want to give a big thanks for the CSM for being so on the ball for this. There were something like four blogs from various CSM members on this subject and they all tackled it with professionalism and concern, which I'm sure helped drive the point home to CCP.
CCP, I hope that if you find people in violation of RMT schemes that you'll punish them to the full extent of your limits. This is a very serious infraction and I hope that no one will be shown to be even partially exempt from the rules. Mercenary Blog @wsethbrown |
GeeShizzle MacCloud
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:55:00 -
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Great to see this thread at last!
+rep and awaiting more info when you can guys
<3 |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:57:00 -
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GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Great to see this thread at last!
+rep and awaiting more info when you can guys
<3
I'd like to sleep first, then I'll be back on this first thing in the morning.
<3
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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Sugar Kyle
Snuff Box
650
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:02:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Great to see this thread at last!
+rep and awaiting more info when you can guys
<3 I'd like to sleep first, then I'll be back on this first thing in the morning. <3
When we contacted CCP it was about 2am their time and we got immediate responses from CCP Falcon and CCP Leeloo. CCP Falcon is now going to bed 22 hours later. I toss that out there for the people who will wonder why questions will not be answered until tomorrow. Low Sec Lifestyle - A Blog |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises Intrepid Crossing
265
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:02:00 -
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I think CCP needs to be completely transparent with this investigation. The old ideology of Player-CCP only should be removed when involving RMT, Exploiting, Cheating, and severe cases of harassment. |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises Intrepid Crossing
265
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:03:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Great to see this thread at last!
+rep and awaiting more info when you can guys
<3 I'd like to sleep first, then I'll be back on this first thing in the morning. <3 [img]http://37.media.tumblr.com/2f735ec3025eb1cc8bb4fe5f6c192098/tumblr_n9wcu3Eciu1t98kwro1_500.gif[/img]
YOU CAN LINK IMAGES NOW? |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
707
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:06:00 -
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Psianh Auvyander wrote:I want to give a big thanks for the CSM for being so on the ball for this.
CSM was supposedly passionate about getting this resolved with CCP when they first started this latest session. Appears more like they were run over by the ball.
Thanks CCP for not taking care of this last fall. Perfect timing for the confidence booster we needed now.
CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:07:00 -
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Thanks for the update, and for taking this seriously. GJ to our unpaid CSM minions for their quick response, and for whatever time they gave up to deal with this.
Please clarify the affiliate system and the the terms for EULA compliant RMT asap. So we can all do it \o/ DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |
Major JSilva
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:07:00 -
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TheMercenaryKing wrote:I think CCP needs to be completely transparent with this investigation. The old ideology of Player-CCP only should be removed when involving RMT, Exploiting, Cheating, and severe cases of harassment. Investigations in progress should never be transparent until they're finished and all the facts known. It can corrupt the information being looked at and affect its credibility. Twitter: @Silva117 |
Cherry Yeyo
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:10:00 -
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Major JSilva wrote:TheMercenaryKing wrote:I think CCP needs to be completely transparent with this investigation. The old ideology of Player-CCP only should be removed when involving RMT, Exploiting, Cheating, and severe cases of harassment. Investigations in progress should never be transparent until they're finished and all the facts known. It can corrupt the information being looked at and affect its credibility. Its just that the entire community is extremely tired of these same shenanigans from this one group over and over CCP Rise>Sentry drones have enormous downsides |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:12:00 -
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speak for yourself. i'm unmoved by any of this President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3422
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:17:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Great to see this thread at last!
+rep and awaiting more info when you can guys
<3 I'd like to sleep first, then I'll be back on this first thing in the morning. <3 [img]http://37.media.tumblr.com/2f735ec3025eb1cc8bb4fe5f6c192098/tumblr_n9wcu3Eciu1t98kwro1_500.gif[/img]
Your catlet looks tasty. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
De'Veldrin
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:25:00 -
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I would just like to add my appreciation to the general tumult of the thread.
CCP FALCON best FALCON. De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
Destiny Calling
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
35
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:35:00 -
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"Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities. Business entities and anyone who is acting for or on behalf of a business or for business purposes may not establish an Account, access the System or play EVE. Accessing the System or using the Game for commercial, business or income-seeking purposes is strictly prohibited."
had to lol at this
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ProclarushTaonas
FW University
0
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:44:00 -
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Oh, this should be fun.
"Somerset Mahm investigated for RMT. CCP gives them a few more shiny rattlesnakes just to appease the crowds" |
Rennseslear X
The 3 Roids Enterprises The 3 Roids Enterprises Alliance
38
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:56:00 -
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SOMERBlink...pillar of the community. What a load of horsesh!t. nice job stopping this from ever happening again CCP. damage control, damage control saw this coming the last time they thumbed their noses at you, and you rewarded them with free rare ships. gee gee EWE OAR SOFA KING WE TALL DID |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4738
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:59:00 -
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Is there a reason you have not asked Somerblink to stop offering their bonus while this is being looked into? Or have you asked them and they have declined? CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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