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Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.08.20 19:59:00 -
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Alli Ginthur wrote:I honestly hope CCP doesn't do anything about the locked assets/AT ships/et al. It'll be a nice history lesson for people about faith in the game Eve:Online.
Yes, it's an excellent history lesson in "How to break the EULA intentionally and lose your assets". |
111010110
The Darwin Initiative
18
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Posted - 2014.08.20 19:59:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:Actually banned the RMTers this time? Yes.
Well. Maybe. Could be yes. Could be one of the two. Could be just the front man / expendable dude. In any case they picked the ToS / EULA angle, which in regards to the case of Somer has concluded matters. Anything else, well, that's in the hands of CCP.
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Zappity
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1296
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:00:00 -
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Well done all. Good stuff. Much faster than I expected! Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Brahan Seer
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
12
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:00:00 -
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Hendrick Tallardar wrote:So as to appease the people accusing sites like CrossignZebras.com, EVENews24.com, TheMittani.com etc. as well as tossing in EVE focused YouTube channels.
Is the promotion of using an Amazon referral link to buy PLEX, which would give a small percentage based kickback to the referrer a violation of any of CCP's policies? For example, I run the YouTube channel YouTube.com/UbaStij and after doing a video on say "How To Align Like A Pro" I mention there is an Amazon link in the description which leads to Amazon's store to buy a PLEX. I state "buying a PLEX through this Amazon link will help keep me operating this service for you the consumer." Is that permitted?
What if I operated the channel with several underlings who were compensated for their contributions in ISK and not through real money? Is it still permitted to promote purchasing through our Amazon referral link to maintain our overhead costs?
I know this has been answered previously, but some people make the assumption that doing so is no different than the scheme Somer Blink tried last year and this time around and I'd like to have CCP's stance. CSM can weigh in if they want but considering they aren't actually the policy makers it's not going to win people over in my assumption.
Ridiculous. You want fair than yeah you should be banned siggy creators should be banned killboards should be banned. They get isk and have an account business related. The EULA clearly states you can't have an EvE account or play EvE for business purposes. Do I think thats right? No. But its the rules so if were going to **** SomerBlink than everyone should get ****** equally for that is justice. |
corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
585
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:01:00 -
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Well I'm very happy with the result and the fact its been sorted in under a week. Corbexx for CSM 9 - Wormholes deserve better |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23976
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:01:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:As Falcon said that there is no proof of RMT you can figure it out yourself. Where did he say that?
Adrie Atticus wrote:Wrik Hoover wrote:CCP should ban anyone who played Somer Blink in the last month, because they were activly helping someone to RMT.
Get out of my game u pay2win scum, ur ruining my gaming experience. Did you even read what Falcon posted? There was no evidence of RMT. Did you? There is no such claim in the post. All they're saying on the matter is that GÇ£[they] will not comment on whether any such violation actually occurred.GÇ¥ This is per usual for RMT investigations. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5329
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:01:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:111010110 wrote:So, what about the Markee Dragon element in all of this? As Falcon said that there is no proof of RMT you can figure it out yourself.
That is, in fact, not what he said.
CCP Falcon wrote:We will not comment on whether any such violation actually occurred. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Angelica Scatterbrain
WH United
21
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:01:00 -
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Can't have anyone knowing what really goes on behind the curtain, therefore permaban. Good job CCP. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6026
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:01:00 -
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In before the Inevitable Internet Lawyers start coming out.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Ravcharas
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
347
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:02:00 -
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Edward Harris wrote: Btw, if you want to be official about it - do you see any disclaimer in those statements? I know we use them in our company.
Even if there was, those disclaimers are pretty much worthless anyway |
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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:02:00 -
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Karbowiak wrote:Whats up with the CSM circlejerk? lol
What kind of Comrades of Stellar Meetings would we be if we didn't march in step? |
Shinnyo
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
6
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:02:00 -
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So now that he's banned, can CCP give us an idea of how much ISK and ships were removed from the game? :D |
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope Gallente Federation
461
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:03:00 -
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When does the ban take affect? How the **** do you remove a signature? |
bacon lettuce tomato
0
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:03:00 -
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This entire thing is like a parody of actual important people getting worked up over something that doesn't really matter at all, in the real world.
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Brahan Seer
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
12
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:03:00 -
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Sion Kumitomo wrote:Karbowiak wrote:Whats up with the CSM circlejerk? lol What kind of Comrades of Stellar Meetings would we be if we didn't march in step?
Bunch of ******* tools who don't care about the community, your just puppets for CCP to use as a scapegoat when they do **** people don't like to use you as a visage of what the community wants is a fallacy that needs to be purged from this game |
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CCP Manifest
C C P C C P Alliance
1092
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:04:00 -
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DexterShark wrote:It looks to me like CCP Falcon just delivered a 3-day masterclass in community crisis management. Good work, chief.
Not to take away from Falcon's heroics as the coordinator, but it was a group effort here at CCP, with the CSM, and of course with the players who were discussing all the different angles.
I don't want that last part to be lost in all this. To the Communications Team (Community and PR), it is very important to see dialogue flowing between players even if they are on opposite sides of the aisle. Thanks for posting. Wherever you did, there's a darn good chance my eyeballs and others read it during the course of the investigation.
Now for a nap. I'd cuddle with Falcon, but he's across the ocean.
OK nap time over, back to regularly scheduled programming. ======== o7 CCP Manifest | Public Relations and Social Media | @ccp_manifest |
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Jarnis McPieksu
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
545
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:04:00 -
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Brahan Seer wrote:Load of crap Somer did nothing to hurt the health of the community and you all at CCP know it. Goodjob ******* a service the a huge player base has loved. Unsubed again.
If you REALLY want to give away your isk through gambling, there is iwantisk.com which appears to do similar things.
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Marsha Mallow
1458
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:04:00 -
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Sion Kumitomo wrote:What kind of Comrades of Stellar Meetings would we be if we didn't march in step? We've been waiting for spoon thowing competitions for ages now, make it happen DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
773
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:04:00 -
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More encouraging news on this issue -- I want to give my sincere thanks to CCP for handling this issue in the correct manner, and wish them the best of luck seizing all of the assets which have undoubtedly been squirreled away and otherwise hidden from view as you extinguish somer from the game. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
111010110
The Darwin Initiative
18
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:05:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:111010110 wrote:So, what about the Markee Dragon element in all of this? As Falcon said that there is no proof of RMT you can figure it out yourself. That is, in fact, not what he said. CCP Falcon wrote:We will not comment on whether any such violation actually occurred.
Which isn't just understandable. It's the right thing to do here. This is one of those situations (again) where in-game bleeds back and forth with out of game, the commercial aspect as well.
You can't be surprised that folks will try to assert their own narrative from that though :P Stockholm Syndrome in Space.
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Brahan Seer
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
12
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:05:00 -
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Jarnis McPieksu wrote:Brahan Seer wrote:Load of crap Somer did nothing to hurt the health of the community and you all at CCP know it. Goodjob ******* a service the a huge player base has loved. Unsubed again. If you REALLY want to give away your isk through gambling, there is iwantisk.com which appears to do similar things.
Theres is such a sham its disgusting somer was far more community driven and ticket prices far more reasonable on most items |
Annie Getyourgun
Snow Leopard Situs
25
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:05:00 -
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With the discussion of referrals and third party retailers fresh on the minds of many, will this open up internal discussion of changing the way referrals work?
I understand the theory behind referrals is to help community sites (such as Dotlan, or EVE University with their Wiki) offset costs of operation, something that CCP wishes to do as it helps both with exposure of the product as well as makes the community a richer place.
So with the elimination of ETC and the movement to PLEX exclusively, what is stopping a change in referral links to act the same way 21 day trial referrals work? I want to support a community site, and when I click on their referral link, I am directed to the EVE Account Management page, where I can purchase a PLEX and the referring site gets credit for their referral. What is preventing this scenario from becoming reality?
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Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
225
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:As Falcon said that there is no proof of RMT you can figure it out yourself. Where did he say that? Adrie Atticus wrote:Wrik Hoover wrote:CCP should ban anyone who played Somer Blink in the last month, because they were activly helping someone to RMT.
Get out of my game u pay2win scum, ur ruining my gaming experience. Did you even read what Falcon posted? There was no evidence of RMT. Did you? There is no such claim in the post. All they're saying on the matter is that GÇ£[they] will not comment on whether any such violation actually occurred.GÇ¥ This is per usual for RMT investigations.
There was no mention of a ban happening because of the RMT clauses of the EULA but he did disclose (against normal policy) the sections which were used against somer in the ban consideration.
Unless you can summon Falcon to confirm this, the ban had nothing do to with RMT. |
Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1103
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:06:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Sion Kumitomo wrote:What kind of Comrades of Stellar Meetings would we be if we didn't march in step? We've been waiting for spoon thowing competitions for ages now, make it happen
Would paying Ankh to give us lessons be too much? RvB Ganked: EVE's Number One Public Roam |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
713
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:06:00 -
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Jarnis McPieksu wrote:Any consideration regarding the fact that this action will most likely remove a large number of unique items from the game (namely, numerous AT prize ships and other not-obtainable-ever-again type ships that are/were in possession of Somer)?
A potential solution would be to auction these unique items through public contracts with the ISK going to CCP (ie. removed from the game). Might even help fight the inflation a bit :) ironically, ccp doing that through somer was the exact thing that first focused the community's eye of sauron on what was going on with somer's old rmt operation |
Zedrik Cayne
The Illuminati... The Illuminati.....
221
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:06:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Frantico wrote: so what ccp should do is hold a auction of the seized Unique ships that way ccp can get eve history ships back out there to the public AND get alot of isk out of the game back to ccp.
No. They absolutely shouldn't. They have never removed assets from accts before to return to the game. You really want every ban to become a 'EVE banned me for my assets' threadnaught? Their only option is to walk away from this and leave the whiners to whine. It's not whether they would be honest about it. It's whether they'd be perceived to be honest. Banning accts and taking the assets to recycle is a can of worms that CCP really doesn't want to open. Mr Epeen
Too late. If you go back to some of the economics bits in CSM8's minutes talks you may remember that they have banned accounts and siezed PLEX, and then returned the plex to the market to guide the market. The can of worms is open.
I has a sad for Blink. Never played, know many who did play. And hope that the controlled shutdown goes as controlled as controlled can. You are the internet equivalent of a Mars bar filled with stupid. |
Tao Dolcino
Jolly Jumpers Squad
340
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:07:00 -
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Ah, finally a clear and straight action, CCP. How often i would have loved to see that kind of behavior and communication during all these years, all these crisis which slowly destroyed every last crumbs of trust. Keep it that way : Honesty, transparency and equality. Then maybe you'll save EVE from rotting after all. Good job. Favoritism is good - CCP 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11241
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:07:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Frantico wrote: so what ccp should do is hold a auction of the seized Unique ships that way ccp can get eve history ships back out there to the public AND get alot of isk out of the game back to ccp.
No. They absolutely shouldn't. They have never removed assets from accts before to return to the game. You really want every ban to become a 'EVE banned me for my assets' threadnaught? Their only option is to walk away from this and leave the whiners to whine. It's not whether they would be honest about it. It's whether they'd be perceived to be honest. Banning accts and taking the assets to recycle is a can of worms that CCP really doesn't want to open. Mr Epeen For once you've made a post that I agree with. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
111010110
The Darwin Initiative
18
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:07:00 -
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CCP Manifest wrote: there's a darn good chance my eyeballs and others read it during the course of the investigation.
Now for a nap. I'd cuddle with Falcon, but he's across the ocean.
OK nap time over, back to regularly scheduled programming.
/me hugs Manifest, I always wanted a big brother :-)
Wait, you'd cuddle with Falcon instead of Leeloo?
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TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises Intrepid Crossing
268
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:08:00 -
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CCP, I want to say thank you. Not for banning someone, but for sharing the result with the community as openly as you did.
I think this is the first time CCP has publicly announced a specific person and their alts were banned. With potential RMT situations like this, falsely representing CCP, and the other unspecified reasons, I think it is a good idea to move forward with publicly denouncing people like this. I think this will also show CCP that they should not use player run 3rd parties for promotions like those special edition ships (Not the Scorpion issue they had in the past) and in-game assets.
While I still, as always, question the long term future of EVE, I am happy with this result and it has restored a small portion of trust to CCP in me. |
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