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Jimi Nanoji
Dark Millennium Inc.
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Posted - 2014.08.21 08:14:00 -
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This is a very rough idea so please bear with me...
I believe that some sort of "hailing system", i.e. the ability to contact another capsuleer ship with a priority message, either to warn them of your intent to attack, or to get there attention, or whatever. This should be done through an in-game button, maybe from a fit-table item that you must train for, or something that is available to everyone from the beginning. When pressed it would "hail" the other ship, or ships, maybe with a pop-up like a duel request. By initiating this request all your weapons and propulsion's will be put onto safe, and upon accepting all the other ships weapons and systems will also be put on safe. Upon accepting the invite a chat box or voice enabled communication between the involved parties would open up. I think it should be a separate chat box with a command in it's U.I. to end the "hail". Upon pressing this both ships would be notified and have a short countdown before all systems are taken off safety.
The benefits of a system like this would be that it would not adversely affect the current game, as in if people just want to go around and gank or hunt, they can ignore this feature. Also people can still just warp away when hailed if they do not want to deal with it by not accepting the invite. There should be an option to disable it, in which case you couldn't "hail" and when "hailed" you would auto-ignore it. The biggest benefit however would that it may just provide a buffer in between engagements that would open the game up to way more player interactions than ever before. You would be able to state your intentions, or make your demands before engaging in PvP, and still be able to maintain the element of surprise attacks by just disabling it.
I don't know I just started playing the game so I am still a noob to this, and I know this needs alot of work, but I do know this... The first time I was engaged in PvP I wasn't really mad, it was exiting, but I felt as though something was missing. I wanted to know more about my enemy, and I believe this feature has the potential to do that, and so much more.
"Thrash it, bash it it, tear it up, Just as long as it helps to develop the idea into something great, or sparks something else in the endless space that is our imaginations, then it was worth the thought."
Jimi Nanoji Dark Millennium Inc. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4090
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Posted - 2014.08.21 08:26:00 -
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forgive me but i fail to see what the point of this is =][= |
Jimi Nanoji
Dark Millennium Inc.
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Posted - 2014.08.21 08:33:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:forgive me but i fail to see what the point of this is
no worries, I was thinking that it could act as a buffer when running into someone in low or null sec, instead of not knowing what they're intentions are you could "Hail" them to ask, or you may be hunting in lowsec and wanted to be a pirate, this would allow communications for negotiations without the worry of them warping away, or them worrying about you blowing them to smithereens while trying to talk. The difference between this and local is just that, it would temporarily suspend weapons and propulsions while discussing...whatever. IDK man, just an idea. |
Hakan MacTrew
MUTED VOID Takahashi Alliance
864
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Posted - 2014.08.21 08:38:00 -
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So, EVE-Mails and Private Chats aren't enough? http://meme-generator.me/media/created/d3r3t8.jpg |
Jimi Nanoji
Dark Millennium Inc.
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Posted - 2014.08.21 08:42:00 -
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Hakan MacTrew wrote:So, EVE-Mails and Private Chats aren't enough?
read the above quote reply for how this differs from the two, plus when have you responded to an eve-mail when threatened by a hostile player, at least if they accepted your hail, you would guarantee a chance to talk. |
Felix Judge
Gallente Volunteer Defense Forces Spaceship Samurai
4
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Posted - 2014.08.21 08:56:00 -
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Jimi Nanoji wrote:[...] or to get there attention, [...]
Where?
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Jimi Nanoji
Dark Millennium Inc.
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Posted - 2014.08.21 09:03:00 -
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Felix Judge wrote:Jimi Nanoji wrote:[...] or to get there attention, [...] Where?
Where what? I just meant maybe they are AFK but near the comp, and the "hail" would give some kind of audio poke to possibly get their attention. Regardless if they don't accept and you close out the hail all your systems would be immediately enabled. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2470
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Posted - 2014.08.21 09:20:00 -
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I think OP has maybe spent too much time watching The Wrath of KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
331
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Posted - 2014.08.21 10:22:00 -
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Not getting it, tried to read through it three times but my mind always drifted off thinking about all the features in the game that are ignored.
Also, you realize that most people have duel and chat options set to ignore as default ?! If we wanted to talk, we would talk - we don't need another 'emergency' pop up we can choose to ignore too. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1875
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Posted - 2014.08.21 10:35:00 -
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so if i dont have it on auto disable, my target can stop my guns and point by hailing me? oh hell no!
if not, how does it add anything that just starting a convo doesnt do already? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
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Sigras
Conglomo
837
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Posted - 2014.08.21 10:42:00 -
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1. Why would I want to warn someone im about to shoot at them? 2. how is this different from requesting a private conversation with that person? A private convo pops up a request on the screen just like you asked, the only difference is that the private convo doesnt stop your modules. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
332
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Posted - 2014.08.21 10:55:00 -
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Sigras wrote:1. Why would I want to warn someone im about to shoot at them? He probably is from CODE or some of those war dec griefers who like to call themselves 'mercenaries' or 'enforcers' and need another feature which allows them to stand in front of the mirror (while ganking) and see that honor-halo and state it 'honestly' and humbly in their bio. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2470
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Posted - 2014.08.21 11:16:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Sigras wrote:1. Why would I want to warn someone im about to shoot at them? He probably is from CODE or some of those war dec griefers who like to call themselves 'mercenaries' or 'enforcers' and need another feature which allows them to stand in front of the mirror (while ganking) and see that honor-halo and state it 'honestly' and humbly in their bio.
Now Fer'isam, let's be reasonable here. Certainly CODE. operate in a way that many disagree with and certainly they have a flair for the dramatic and of course they come off a little bit ... fanatical, but you cannot deny that the work they do (while admittedly violent) is right and just; they are missionaries of Bob*, spreading the word and truth of non-consensual PvP to the unaware and willfully ignorant masses who have mistaken EVE for a place that it is not. They are akin to the terraforming equipment often mentioned in the EVE lore; slowly over a great period of time transforming an undesirable highsec full of AFK ships and risk-ignorant behavior into a living, breathing place where people are awake and alert and responsible for their own continued safety and survival.
*my apologies if I have the K-space and W-space space-gods mixed up. I can never keep them straight. |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
333
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Posted - 2014.08.21 11:28:00 -
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Hahaha, how much did you get for that public relatiosn statement Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2505
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Posted - 2014.08.21 11:55:00 -
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"You are being hailed by [Ship]"
- Respond <- OP's choice - Respond with [Antimatter|Missile|Phased Plasma|Multifreq] <- correct choice - Do nothing | Cloak | GTFO <- also correct, if the above is not possible (hauler, freighter, etc.)
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2505
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Posted - 2014.08.21 11:57:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Sigras wrote:1. Why would I want to warn someone im about to shoot at them? He probably is from CODE or some of those war dec griefers who like to call themselves 'mercenaries' or 'enforcers' and need another feature which allows them to stand in front of the mirror (while ganking) and see that honor-halo and state it 'honestly' and humbly in their bio. Now Fer'isam, let's be reasonable here. Certainly CODE. operate in a way that many disagree with and certainly they have a flair for the dramatic and of course they come off a little bit ... fanatical, but you cannot deny that the work they do (while admittedly violent) is right and just; they are missionaries of Bob*, spreading the word and truth of non-consensual PvP to the unaware and willfully ignorant masses who have mistaken EVE for a place that it is not. They are akin to the terraforming equipment often mentioned in the EVE lore; slowly over a great period of time transforming an undesirable highsec full of AFK ships and risk-ignorant behavior into a living, breathing place where people are awake and alert and responsible for their own continued safety and survival. *my apologies if I have the K-space and W-space space-gods mixed up. I can never keep them straight.
I always thought it was m0o ... One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2861
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Posted - 2014.08.21 12:16:00 -
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So this differs from eve mail, private convo and even duel requests simply by turning your ship off when you try to use it?
Why on earth would anyone bother? |
SFM Hobb3s
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
114
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Posted - 2014.08.21 13:41:00 -
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OP thinks that on occasion he will receive a hail. But the majority of the time, he will actually receive 100+ hails at once, all with the sole intent of distracting or gumming up his cilent while he gets ganked.
I guess OP has never been spammed with convo requests before... |
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
411
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Posted - 2014.08.21 13:45:00 -
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Hailing is cool, but what could be even cooler is a distress beacons. They could generate a warpable anomaly or beacon and show up on the starmap with the pilots name and ship. |
Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
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Posted - 2014.08.21 13:52:00 -
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Jimi Nanoji wrote:no worries, I was thinking that it could act as a buffer when running into someone in low or null sec, instead of not knowing what they're intentions are you could "Hail" them to ask In low and null, you should assume they're about to shoot you. Or be in a position where you should shoot them.
Quote:or you may be hunting in lowsec and wanted to be a pirate, this would allow communications for negotiations without the worry of them warping away That would be horribly exploitable. Imagine a two-man team catching frigates or interceptors in low or null. One guy hails, the other uses that time to get a warp scrambler on him.
Sorry, there's lots of different ways of communicating with players, one more way (and an horribly-exploitable way at that) isn't necessary. |
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
55
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Posted - 2014.08.21 15:14:00 -
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So basicly you want us to scrap our high tech FTL communications and switch to century old piece of crap? |
Elusive Panda
Gendry's Leech Nerfed Alliance Go Away
66
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Posted - 2014.08.21 16:07:00 -
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On screen!
No seriously, you could just open up convo or invite them to a custom channel with an MOTD stating your business and then turn off all your modules if you really want to.
The only time I've seen this used was for ransom and even then, the attacker keeps point and may shot a couple of warnings shot too.
Opening up convo while your target warps away because you went "safe mode" doesn't seems all that cool. |
Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole Try Rerolling
413
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Posted - 2014.08.21 16:35:00 -
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I would spam this every time I my fleet engaged a target. Schrodinger's Hot Dropper - The Fate of Forum Alts - Click me! Click me! |
Jimi Nanoji
Dark Millennium Inc.
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Posted - 2014.08.22 05:56:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Sigras wrote:1. Why would I want to warn someone im about to shoot at them? He probably is from CODE or some of those war dec griefers who like to call themselves 'mercenaries' or 'enforcers' and need another feature which allows them to stand in front of the mirror (while ganking) and see that honor-halo and state it 'honestly' and humbly in their bio.
I don't even know what CODE is lol |
Jimi Nanoji
Dark Millennium Inc.
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:04:00 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:So basicly you want us to scrap our high tech FTL communications and switch to century old piece of crap?
Yeah, of course my horse |
w3ak3stl1nk
Hedion University
81
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Posted - 2014.08.22 13:50:00 -
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Laughter is good for the soul. Is that my two cents or yours? |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:38:00 -
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Yeah, , just read through this again and started to chuckle, why not reverse the idea and check if its viable then... every time you want to activate a module on another pilot a forced pop-up (which steals the focus and locks modules) appears offering you the option to convo instead - makes equal sense.
Doesn't have any of the pretense and annoys the right one regarding ganks. Are you sure your issues aren't elsewhere ?! |
Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole Try Rerolling
413
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Posted - 2014.08.22 16:30:00 -
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Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:Yeah, , just read through this again and started to chuckle, why not reverse the idea and check if its viable then... every time you want to activate a module on another pilot a forced pop-up (which steals the focus and locks modules) appears offering you the option to convo instead - makes equal sense. Doesn't have any of the pretense and annoys the right one regarding ganks. Someone gets it. Schrodinger's Hot Dropper - The Fate of Forum Alts - Click me! Click me! |
Zylona Femtov
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:44:00 -
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Well, this is not Star Trek fantasy here, this galaxy is restless and nobody is going to ask permission to hunt or kill you in low sec or anywhere else. For the rest you have local and private chat... windows. |
Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:48:00 -
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If all you really want is customisable convo requests to pop up so you can RP a little you'd probably get some support after ditching the superfluous crap.
Space Pirates that yarrr like Pirates? +10000000 Travelling at the speed of love. |
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