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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11289
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:34:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Please refrain from using profanity. Profanity is not the issue. The issue is the use of slurs which carry strong prejudicial connotations and which are often intended to cause emotional pain. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Nephotaxis
Lomoko Mining
6
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:34:00 -
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Sometimes i really ... think that a iron virgin could be the right penalty for people who doing this ****.
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/1-the-iron-virgin-granger.html
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
332
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:35:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Gallente Citizen 54682487 wrote:I love how you people have a pavlovian dog response to certain words. I blame this on bad parenting. Your learned to be offended by certain sounds that come out a human mouth. You would enjoy a better existence if you unlearned this response. Everyone would enjoy a better existence if people stopped using words that marginalize and hurt others.
It would actually be a rather dystopion world if we were all policed, even by "each other" in order to prevent upsetting or offending people. Check out the movie "Equilibrium" sometime.
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12726
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:35:00 -
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I love you guys. When my monitors alerts me of sudden traffic peaks to eve-offline.net I can be sure that it's just not things on my end that prevents me from logging on.
/c
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11289
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:36:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:It would actually be a rather dystopion world if we were all policed, even by "each other" in order to prevent upsetting or offending people. Yes how awful it would be if we reminded each other how our use of language can hurt people. Don't be ridiculous. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Tara Read
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
745
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:37:00 -
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Matt 008-2014-017 wrote:Thanks for being loyal community of complainers.
I'll make it my solemn goal in life to rant to you specifically about my woes and troubles. There's a terrible draft in my room. My pants don't fit like they used to because I'm married and just don't care. There's always more month at the end of the money, and Breaking Bad was far too short because I miss Walter White and Jesse.
Magnets B&^%H.
Visit my blog for all the latest in jeers and tears as well as news at http://hoistthecolors.org |
Foodpimp
xHELLonEARTHx Against ALL Authorities
164
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:37:00 -
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Matt 008-2014-017 wrote:I'm just glad Eve has a community of folks like you guys who let people like me know what it going on. Otherwise I would not have known this was a hacker issue until it came back online again. Thanks for being loyal community of complainers.
but hacking isn't the issue. |
Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
31
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:38:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I love you guys. When my monitors alerts me of sudden traffic peaks to eve-offline.net I can be sure that it's just not things on my end that prevents me from logging on.
/c nyan eve :3 I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11289
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:38:00 -
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Nobody is arguing against your right to say such things. We're merely saying that you really shouldn't say such things. Since when was it so horrible to have people ask you to be considerate?
Maybe this is hypocritical of me because I'm often rude, and crass, and I get angry. But I'm not a bigot, and I refuse to use the words that they've appropriated to hurt others. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Salteris
Kill Rights Bounty Corporation
3
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:38:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:ARE YOU ******* KIDDING ME. THIS IS OVER 6B ALONE TODAY IN DDoS LOSSES FOR ME. **** THESE ******* HACKER FAGGOTS.
(was in the middle of a site with my Paladin and lost a Nag during escalations earlier) Please refrain from using a homophobic slur to rant like a child about losing space credits. CCP will reimburse it.
Dear Internet,
Pleas stop being children and SJW's about gd words. There are many things in this world to enjoy, and getting side tracked b/c someone uses a word you don't like is rather idiotic. This game being one of them. Now, since some other idiots in this world want us to not be able to enjoy it, we are stuck here talking about it, not playing it. And yet, instead of commiserating with us, you decide to police OP's words. Here's a tip: Not everything said is meant the way you want to take it, and not everyone treats words like a child and is 'hurt' by them.
Thanks. |
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
332
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:38:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Please refrain from using profanity. Profanity is not the issue. The issue is the use of slurs which carry strong prejudicial connotations and which are often intended to cause emotional pain.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me." I learned that when I was like, 5?
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
843
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:39:00 -
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INB4 other totally rational minds call for actual real life torture or death for people who engage in Denial Of Service attacks against video games.
Truly, if asking someone to sing a song on teamspeak is literally the act of real life sociopaths, today must be literally be just the exact same thing as genocide :P |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11289
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:41:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Please refrain from using profanity. Profanity is not the issue. The issue is the use of slurs which carry strong prejudicial connotations and which are often intended to cause emotional pain. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me." I learned that when I was like, 5? How old were you when you learned that that was wrong? Words can definitely hurt people. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Tara Read
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
745
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:42:00 -
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Salteris wrote:Tara Read wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:ARE YOU ******* KIDDING ME. THIS IS OVER 6B ALONE TODAY IN DDoS LOSSES FOR ME. **** THESE ******* HACKER FAGGOTS.
(was in the middle of a site with my Paladin and lost a Nag during escalations earlier) Please refrain from using a homophobic slur to rant like a child about losing space credits. CCP will reimburse it. Dear Internet, Pleas stop being children and SJW's about gd words. There are many things in this world to enjoy, and getting side tracked b/c someone uses a word you don't like is rather idiotic. This game being is of them. Now, since some other idiots in this world want us to not be able to enjoy it, we are stuck here talking about it, not playing it. And yet, instead of commiserating with us, you decide to police OP's words. Here's a tip: Not everything said is meant the way you want to take it, and not everyone treats words like a child and is 'hurt' by them. Thanks.
And some of us are actually gay and some of us have been on the receiving end of physical blows while said word was being used in a not so nice manner. So while you may compare me to some whinny feminist word policeman I don't give two damns about your right to say the word that's fine.
but being a belligerent jack off is going to get you called out for being a moron for using language. So forgive me if you think the word *** means bundle of sticks. To others it means prejudice and pain. Not that that means anything to a person ignorant of the world around them and can post without any consequence over the internet. Visit my blog for all the latest in jeers and tears as well as news at http://hoistthecolors.org |
Iomi Alabosa
Dead Star Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:42:00 -
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1. DDoS attacks are illegal and the offenders should be tracked down and arrested. It's not that hard, especially when they're bragging about it all over the intertubes.
2. Online services can be insulated from DDoS attacks in a variety of ways. CCP should be attending to that, especially if this kind of thing has happened before.
3. While it can be argued that compensating players for downtime can be seems as "encouraging" miscreants, it can also be said that CCP should be rolling servers back after these events. Even a 5-10 minute rollback would prevent the bulk majority of losses caused by disconnection.
4. While it's easy to say that CCP should not compensate players for losses in cases that are beyond the company's control, it can also be said that CCP should indemnify players for losses that are beyond OUR control. In a third-party attack on the company's property, its customers should not be the ones to swallow losses. And since Eve is a game in which real money is paid for in-game losses, that is doubly so.
Just saying. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6387
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:42:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:INB4 other totally rational minds call for actual real life torture or death for people who engage in Denial Of Service attacks against video games.
Truly, if asking someone to sing a song on teamspeak is literally the act of real life sociopaths, today must be literally be just the exact same thing as genocide :P Unchallengeable logic ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
843
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:42:00 -
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Salteris wrote:
Dear Internet,
Pleas stop being children and SJW's about gd words. There are many things in this world to enjoy, and getting side tracked b/c someone uses a word you don't like is rather idiotic. This game being is of them. Now, since some other idiots in this world want us to not be able to enjoy it, we are stuck here talking about it, not playing it. And yet, instead of commiserating with us, you decide to police OP's words. Here's a tip: Not everything said is meant the way you want to take it, and not everyone treats words like a child and is 'hurt' by them.
Thanks.
But ... but.. wait!
What about that one time where someone asked me to join their teamspeak server and made fun of me? If being offensive and silly via text is serious, being offensive and silly via VOICE must include a blank reason life time ban! xD
Oh wait, nevermind. :P
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
332
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:43:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Nobody is arguing against your right to say such things. We're merely saying that you really shouldn't say such things. Since when was it so horrible to have people ask you to be considerate?
Maybe this is hypocritical of me because I'm often rude, and crass, and I get angry. But I'm not a bigot, and I refuse to use the words that they've appropriated to hurt others.
Oh idk, I think there are plenty of folks, quite possibly including some in this thread, that feel that they or others actually have a "right" to not be offended. Such silliness often brings about draconian rules and regulations. It's an epidemic here in America. Here's just 1 example of the stupidity:
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/08/04/seattle-ban-%E2%80%98potentially-offensive%E2%80%99-words-%E2%80%98brown-bag%E2%80%99-and-%E2%80%98citizen%E2%80%99
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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April Chriqui
Action Indirecte
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:43:00 -
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So the whole of EVE went from trolling local to trolling the forum when EVE get attack.
BTW, can I have my free SP already? I have capital ships training to finish.
Not going to be greedy but 2 million free SP will do nicely
Regards |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
626
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:43:00 -
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dammit James, you are making me wear out my like button ^^ |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9012
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:43:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Please refrain from using profanity. Profanity is not the issue. The issue is the use of slurs which carry strong prejudicial connotations and which are often intended to cause emotional pain. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me." I learned that when I was like, 5?
Pretty sure they stopped teaching that fairly recently. Now it's all about wringing your hands if someone somewhere somewhen says anything that might impact your self esteem.
Anyway, on the actual topic of this, I am interested to know if this is actually the same DDoS, or if it's just the servers crapping out in an aftereffect from the first one.
In particular since, as best I can tell, the entire game dropped off for everybody at the same time. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11293
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:44:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Nobody is arguing against your right to say such things. We're merely saying that you really shouldn't say such things. Since when was it so horrible to have people ask you to be considerate?
Maybe this is hypocritical of me because I'm often rude, and crass, and I get angry. But I'm not a bigot, and I refuse to use the words that they've appropriated to hurt others. Oh idk, I think there are plenty of folks, quite possibly including some in this thread, that feel that they or others actually have a "right" to not be offended. I haven't seen anyone say as much. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1138
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:44:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Please refrain from using profanity. Profanity is not the issue. The issue is the use of slurs which carry strong prejudicial connotations and which are often intended to cause emotional pain. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me." I learned that when I was like, 5?
Yea but people can sensitive now days. We live in a society where peoples identity revolves around their race or sexual orientation so when you make fun of that it crushes their whole world.
I'm not saying any form of racism or other discrimination is acceptable... It's not!
What I'm saying is people are very sensitive today. You call me a whatever because of my race, religion, or whatever else you find about me and I'll just look at you like you're stupid... I'm not going to let someone like that bother me in the least... |
Lemanik
The Kanye West Foundation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:45:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Salteris wrote:
Dear Internet,
Pleas stop being children and SJW's about gd words. There are many things in this world to enjoy, and getting side tracked b/c someone uses a word you don't like is rather idiotic. This game being is of them. Now, since some other idiots in this world want us to not be able to enjoy it, we are stuck here talking about it, not playing it. And yet, instead of commiserating with us, you decide to police OP's words. Here's a tip: Not everything said is meant the way you want to take it, and not everyone treats words like a child and is 'hurt' by them.
Thanks.
But ... but.. wait! What about that one time where someone asked me to join their teamspeak server and made fun of me? If being offensive and silly via text is serious, being offensive and silly via VOICE must include a blank reason life time ban! xD Oh wait, nevermind. :P kappa |
Foodpimp
xHELLonEARTHx Against ALL Authorities
167
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:46:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Salteris wrote:Tara Read wrote:Sylar Dragonfly wrote:ARE YOU ******* KIDDING ME. THIS IS OVER 6B ALONE TODAY IN DDoS LOSSES FOR ME. **** THESE ******* HACKER FAGGOTS.
(was in the middle of a site with my Paladin and lost a Nag during escalations earlier) Please refrain from using a homophobic slur to rant like a child about losing space credits. CCP will reimburse it. Dear Internet, Pleas stop being children and SJW's about gd words. There are many things in this world to enjoy, and getting side tracked b/c someone uses a word you don't like is rather idiotic. This game being is of them. Now, since some other idiots in this world want us to not be able to enjoy it, we are stuck here talking about it, not playing it. And yet, instead of commiserating with us, you decide to police OP's words. Here's a tip: Not everything said is meant the way you want to take it, and not everyone treats words like a child and is 'hurt' by them. Thanks. And some of us are actually gay and some of us have been on the receiving end of physical blows while said word was being used in a not so nice manner. So while you may compare me to some whinny feminist word policeman I don't give two damns about your right to say the word that's fine. But being a belligerent jack off is going to get you called out for being a moron for using language. So forgive me if you think the word *** means bundle of sticks. To others it means prejudice and pain. Not that that means anything to a person ignorant of the world around them and can post without any consequence over the internet.
Suck it up kitten. It's just a silly word. Not like he just took HGTV off the air. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11293
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:47:00 -
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Iomi Alabosa wrote:4. While it's easy to say that CCP should not compensate players for losses in cases that are beyond the company's control, it can also be said that CCP should indemnify players for losses that are beyond OUR control. In a third-party attack on the company's property, its customers should not be the ones to swallow losses. And since Eve is a game in which real money is paid for in-game losses, that is doubly so. That's a pretty slippery slope though, because you can use that to justify reimbursing over things like spotty internet connections on the client end, power outages, etc. And I'd rather that didn't happen, because you can easily arrange these things to happen if things aren't going your way in the game. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Shanur
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:47:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Anyway, on the actual topic of this, I am interested to know if this is actually the same DDoS, or if it's just the servers crapping out in an aftereffect from the first one.
In particular since, as best I can tell, the entire game dropped off for everybody at the same time.
Probably a variation of the earlier DDoS, since the server appears to be up in the launcher, but can't be reached when you actually try to log in.
It isn't EXACTLY the same DDoS because when that took place i couldn't log in at all, and the launcher couldn't even get the status of the servers. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
844
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:47:00 -
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Iomi Alabosa wrote:1. DDoS attacks are illegal and the offenders should be tracked down and arrested. It's not that hard, especially when they're bragging about it all over the intertubes. (Stated obvious fact that no one has questioned)
2. Online services can be insulated from DDoS attacks in a variety of ways. CCP should be attending to that, especially if this kind of thing has happened before. (Awesome of you to point out networking 101 and I am sure you have a detailed network analysis of this attack to report to both CCP and their upstream providers to provide a 0-hour fix, as I am sure no one is working on this at all or as even noticed in the first place)
3. While it can be argued that compensating players for downtime can be seems as "encouraging" miscreants, it can also be said that CCP should be rolling servers back after these events. Even a 5-10 minute rollback would prevent the bulk majority of losses caused by disconnection. (Whatever bad thing just happened to me before server drop was unfair, and I want to gain an advantage right now.)
4. While it's easy to say that CCP should not compensate players for losses in cases that are beyond the company's control, it can also be said that CCP should indemnify players for losses that are beyond OUR control. In a third-party attack on the company's property, its customers should not be the ones to swallow losses. And since Eve is a game in which real money is paid for in-game losses, that is doubly so. (Eve is REAL, my spaceships are worth real life cash, and I will be consulting my internet-spaceship-lawyer soon to file a lawsuit in Caldari space, see you in Jita Court, CCP!)
Just saying.
Let me fix this for you.
(In all srsness, dude, it's a video game. If you lost something due to unscheduled downtime, just file a polite support ticket (key word is POLITE) and put yourself in the shoes of CCP - provide links to information that proves this loss, provide all information that would be relevant if you were the person looking over your issue, and then just be patient as a real human being is going to have to deal with your support ticket.) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6387
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:47:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Salteris wrote:
Dear Internet,
Pleas stop being children and SJW's about gd words. There are many things in this world to enjoy, and getting side tracked b/c someone uses a word you don't like is rather idiotic. This game being is of them. Now, since some other idiots in this world want us to not be able to enjoy it, we are stuck here talking about it, not playing it. And yet, instead of commiserating with us, you decide to police OP's words. Here's a tip: Not everything said is meant the way you want to take it, and not everyone treats words like a child and is 'hurt' by them.
Thanks.
But ... but.. wait! What about that one time where someone asked me to join their teamspeak server and made fun of me? If being offensive and silly via text is serious, being offensive and silly via VOICE must include a blank reason life time ban! xD Oh wait, nevermind. :P Hmm, somehow it seems like a reference to something rather than an actual reply to the post you quoted. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Matt 008-2014-017
New Worlds Order Plc.
2
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Posted - 2014.08.22 06:47:00 -
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freedoms are like dominoes.... knock one down and you won't have any left before you know it. people can say whatever they want. if you are an american. everyone else SHUT UP! |
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