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Metalcali
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:32:00 -
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One day we will have the Minmatar back at our feet for proper training and conditioning. As for Sebiestor women, I have a soft spot for their, unique, beauty. All hail Amarr! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
11313
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:33:00 -
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Tear Jar wrote:Has AT become super important and I just haven't noticed? Considering the fact that CCP had to lower the entry fee just to get enough teams to compete (and they still didn't get enough until auctions) the AT is probably considered less important than ever before. Enjoying the rain today? ;) |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9033
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:34:00 -
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... how do you RP a table? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
725
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:38:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Has AT become super important and I just haven't noticed? Considering the fact that CCP had to lower the entry fee just to get enough teams to compete (and they still didn't get enough until auctions) the AT is probably considered less important than ever before. Tough call. It might not be a case of less important, but one of "why bother?" Something about ~elitepvp~ players being consolidated into fewer and fewer alliances. |
Marsha Mallow
1480
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:48:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:... how do you RP a table? Well
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |
Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
113
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Posted - 2014.08.23 01:17:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Has AT become super important and I just haven't noticed? Considering the fact that CCP had to lower the entry fee just to get enough teams to compete (and they still didn't get enough until auctions) the AT is probably considered less important than ever before. Tough call. It might not be a case of less important, but one of "why bother?" Something about ~elitepvp~ players being consolidated into fewer and fewer alliances.
I had always heard that nobody cared because the same few teams always took the top spots and there weren't any rewards for anyone else. So it was considered a lot of time and effort for no reward.
Just wannted to check if that had changed as people seem really upset about CODE. missing a match. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
357
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Posted - 2014.08.23 02:05:00 -
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Nothing spices up local like a good old chest beating when you beat down those filthy frogs. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
115
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Posted - 2014.08.23 05:23:00 -
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Is it Ok if I think role players in online games are dorks? |
Lucretia DeWinter
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
181
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Posted - 2014.08.23 06:50:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Lucretia DeWinter wrote:Slow down posting - I'm struggling to keep up carving names into these autocannon shells.
What the hell is with this influx of "literate" sebestors!? Iv said it a thousand times, learn how to suppress a culture properly or stay out of the godame slave trade! And if the have to be able to read, don't do it half assed, it's Ral ph love,no f
There are plenty of f's in my writings for you zealots. Love.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24058
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Posted - 2014.08.23 07:56:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:... how do you RP a table? Well Booo! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
7780
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Posted - 2014.08.23 09:18:00 -
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******* amarrians, you are the scum of the universe! I hate you slavers so much if I gank a capsule of one I always do a special victory dance!
Perfectly legit.
Otoh, if I call someone an idiot in local for being stupid, and he responds with ... ... "did your father **** you as a kid too often?" ... (seriously happened)
... that's not legit and I petitioned his candy ass. http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - CODE, RvB, the AT, and what DJEntropy said .... :) Human Ressources Expert; Suicidal Queen of Local, Underwear and ... for hire! |
Zappity
Estel Arador Corp Services Estel Arador Capsuleer Services
1304
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Posted - 2014.08.23 10:05:00 -
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This is strictly in game thinking but why isn't there a slavery mechanic? It would fit well with lore.
I can't think of a way to make it work with actual opponents (though it would be great if someone could) but I should at least be able to enslave my alts. This would give them some minor efficiency bonus (trade, production or whatever) in exchange for a penalty of some description. Maybe a public list of my slaves, a standings penalty with Minmatar, restricted character movement etc. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24059
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Posted - 2014.08.23 10:21:00 -
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Zappity wrote:This is strictly in game thinking but why isn't there a slavery mechanic? It would fit well with lore.
I can't think of a way to make it work with actual opponents (though it would be great if someone could) but I should at least be able to enslave my alts. This would give them some minor efficiency bonus (trade, production or whatever) in exchange for a penalty of some description. Maybe a public list of my slaves, a standings penalty with Minmatar, restricted character movement etc. That's probably why: it would be far too easy to abuse.
There's always been some mumbling about being able to kidnap and ransom people's pods, but that's probably as close as it will ever get. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Zappity
Estel Arador Corp Services Estel Arador Capsuleer Services
1304
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Posted - 2014.08.23 10:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Zappity wrote:This is strictly in game thinking but why isn't there a slavery mechanic? It would fit well with lore.
I can't think of a way to make it work with actual opponents (though it would be great if someone could) but I should at least be able to enslave my alts. This would give them some minor efficiency bonus (trade, production or whatever) in exchange for a penalty of some description. Maybe a public list of my slaves, a standings penalty with Minmatar, restricted character movement etc. That's probably why: it would be far too easy to abuse. There's always been some mumbling about being able to kidnap and ransom people's pods, but that's probably as close as it will ever get. Pod ransom would be great! I missed those whispers - ta. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
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CCP Falcon
8398
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Posted - 2014.08.23 10:42:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:I guess if you restrict yourself to prejudice described in the lore and only apply it to the appropriate in game races, it would be hard to construct a real life case of racism out of it. Just avoid using terms deemed racist in real life.
Pretty much.
CCP Falcon || Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3 |
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
58
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Posted - 2014.08.23 10:47:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Abrazzar wrote:I guess if you restrict yourself to prejudice described in the lore and only apply it to the appropriate in game races, it would be hard to construct a real life case of racism out of it. Just avoid using terms deemed racist in real life. Pretty much.
Alright thank you.
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Erin Crawford
213
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Posted - 2014.08.23 11:24:00 -
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my favourite kind of racism
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
358
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Posted - 2014.08.23 12:08:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Abrazzar wrote:I guess if you restrict yourself to prejudice described in the lore and only apply it to the appropriate in game races, it would be hard to construct a real life case of racism out of it. Just avoid using terms deemed racist in real life. Pretty much.
How about the gallente and french? I mean if a real life french player is in galmil I'll call him a frog since he's galmil. I'll prolly add in some surrender banter too. |
Lucretia DeWinter
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
182
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Posted - 2014.08.23 12:10:00 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Abrazzar wrote:I guess if you restrict yourself to prejudice described in the lore and only apply it to the appropriate in game races, it would be hard to construct a real life case of racism out of it. Just avoid using terms deemed racist in real life. Pretty much. How about the gallente and french? I mean if a real life french player is in galmil I'll call him a frog since he's galmil. I'll prolly add in some surrender banter too.
Gallente blaster rifle for sale. Never fired, dropped once?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4157
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Posted - 2014.08.23 12:39:00 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Abrazzar wrote:I guess if you restrict yourself to prejudice described in the lore and only apply it to the appropriate in game races, it would be hard to construct a real life case of racism out of it. Just avoid using terms deemed racist in real life. Pretty much. How about the gallente and french? I mean if a real life french player is in galmil I'll call him a frog since he's galmil. I'll prolly add in some surrender banter too. Gallente blaster rifle for sale. Never fired, dropped once? My grandfather calls these "Gallente" soldier's =][= |
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HankMurphy
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
26
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Posted - 2014.08.23 14:37:00 -
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What do you mean... ' you people ' ??
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
359
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Posted - 2014.08.23 14:42:00 -
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HankMurphy wrote:What do you mean... ' you people ' ??
Hush minmatar real people are talking on the people table. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3587
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Posted - 2014.08.23 14:44:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Abrazzar wrote:I guess if you restrict yourself to prejudice described in the lore and only apply it to the appropriate in game races, it would be hard to construct a real life case of racism out of it. Just avoid using terms deemed racist in real life. Pretty much. Why does the CCP legal team work with CCP staff instead of CSM? Can't we drop restrictions for this particular environment? Oh god. |
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
74
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Posted - 2014.08.23 20:00:00 -
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. . . now on another note, I guess it is allowed to make fun of RL challenged people. I have a daughter who has Downs. When I complained to CCP about some bios, they said they'd "look into it". No other responses, the bios haven't been changed.
So, I guess it's hard to see where CCP's morals/ethics are really at. If they allow that, then anything else is OK.
-Kirst
Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there. |
SFX Bladerunner
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
0
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Posted - 2014.08.23 21:42:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Fictional in game-racism = ok. Real racism directed at other players = not OK.
Pretty simple, however let me say as a IRL person of 'color' it was....not the best thinking on CCPs part to go with the whole 'space slavery' theme then put the ...most ethnic looking New Eden race in the enslaved faction.......
I Disagree.
While current day society we might (openly) frown upon slavery and the concept of 'owning' people, the desire of mankind to accumulate wealth and 'own' all kinds of things hasn't changed. While there are certain groups of people around that abolish the concept of ownership or wealth accumulation (for example Amish, certain monks and religious groups) most of mankind continues to desire ownership and capitalism runs rampant.
Throughout RL human history slavery has been a pretty constant occurrence and it's only been recently that we've striven to completely abolish it. It would make sense for a fictional world where groups of people are cut off from their homeworld (the New Eden wormhole collapse) would revert back to slavery.
Do not think us so enlightened as to be able to not revert back to slavery were '****' ever to 'hit the fan'. If you look realistically at current day society and certain anarchistic movements you'd realise slavery is still alive and kicking, only now we call it something else. Workers are owned by their employees. Citizens are owned by their government (which in turn is owned by those wealthy enough to lobby said government into submission).
Greed and desire of private ownership will always facilitate and lead to slavery. Until human nature itself changes, this will not change. The only thing we've learned so far is how to mask this slavery better and pretend it is something else. |
Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
42
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Posted - 2014.08.23 22:47:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Abrazzar wrote:I guess if you restrict yourself to prejudice described in the lore and only apply it to the appropriate in game races, it would be hard to construct a real life case of racism out of it. Just avoid using terms deemed racist in real life. Pretty much. Why does the CCP legal team work with CCP staff instead of CSM? Can't we drop restrictions for this particular environment?
There's nothing to stop people roleplaying someone who's prejudice as long as it's in keeping with the game, i.e. directed at the character and not the person behind the character.
Although roleplaying in such a way always runs the risk that someone will take it personally regardless of your intent. Have to wonder if it's even worth the risk.
Seen roleplayers roleplaying in this manner in another game in relation to PvP, tends to lead to a fairly crappy feel in relationship to the community as it becomes more like gangs and gang mentality. |
Arkus Kane
UNN Heavy Industries
2
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Posted - 2014.08.23 23:19:00 -
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IMO it's like the term "mudbloods" in Harry Potter. It's racist, but it's completely make-believe, so it's not "bad". It's used as an example to demonstrate the unpleasantries of racism.
If I play a pirate, that doesn't (necessarily) mean I'm a murdering psychopath in real life. If you steal money in EVE, a cut-throat world built on deception, that probably doesn't make you dishonest in RL.
Similarly, if I play an Amarr supremacist of some kind, that doesn't make me racist in real life, because I'm essentially role-playing an imaginary bad guy.
I don't really role-play, but Arkus did do missions for the Amarr Empire that involved killing slaves. As a result, I see him as a cold, calculating man who'll take all but the most abhorrent jobs for the cash. He probably sees the Minmatar as traitors, given his Amarr upbringing.
This stuff only crosses the line if you start using real life racist or derogatory language, or really abuse people for no reason with no intelligence or tact. |
Tassin en Lone
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.23 23:37:00 -
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Ion Kirst wrote: . . . now on another note, I guess it is allowed to make fun of RL challenged people. I have a daughter who has Downs. When I complained to CCP about some bios, they said they'd "look into it". No other responses, the bios haven't been changed.
So, I guess it's hard to see where CCP's morals/ethics are really at. If they allow that, then anything else is OK.
-Kirst It's not okay if players make fun of challenged people and I'm convinced that the rules about discrimination ingame include this particular form as well.
In my experience however, you usually get better results confronting the person in question. People don't always think about their choice of wording much. Some of them might not even be aware of how it would be interpreted by those who have to deal with it on a daily basis.
While CCP shouldn't let this one slide, I think they should be a last resort when it comes to social policing. |
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
75
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Posted - 2014.08.23 23:53:00 -
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Tassin, you are probably right. I could have personally contacted with the individual/s.
You know what would happen, I'd get cussed at, flipped the bird, told to mind my own business, etc., and then I'd cuss them back as I sank to their level. So, I just avoided all that, hoping that CCP would step up to the plate. They did not.
thanks
-Kirst Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there. |
Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
945
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Posted - 2014.08.23 23:55:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Fictional in game-racism = ok. Real racism directed at other players = not OK.
Pretty simple, however let me say as a IRL person of 'color' it was....not the best thinking on CCPs part to go with the whole 'space slavery' theme then put the ...most ethnic looking New Eden race in the enslaved faction.......
Yeah but Winmatar got all the viking sounding system names and once had a powerful, refined and shiny empire. Amarr are the story of "We are so great oh hello Jove..." Splat. Money is the great leveller in EvE, money is worth the same whatever the source and there's no mechanic to limit the buying power of races. This thread is begging for twisted little racists to indulge their inferiority complexes though.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
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