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Medici
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:52:00 -
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Finally managed to get a quality screenie of the thrilling Semi Final match between Bob and IAC. You can find it here.Linkage Well done guys awesome fight
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Jim Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 24/07/2006 17:13:16
Originally by: Medici Finally managed to get a quality screenie of the thrilling Semi Final match between Bob and IAC. You can find it here.Linkage Well done guys awesome fight
Wow, even a FARK photoshopper would groan at that one.
This stuff is getting pretty old, this whole IAC boned up crap is mostly from the poor commentary done on the match.
Which I guess is understandable because the DJs had no idea what was really going on, on the IAC side.
Trust me it's hard to kill a fully skilled Vulture with crystal set that has 80%+ against every resist, and a CNR that has full crystal set, gang module support, and about 72-80% to every resist.
Especially while they both remotely shield xfer each other.
IAC team wasn't tanked nearly as well as the BoBs team, we relied on me in my CNR running a large solace repairer to keep the team alive, which simply just isn't as efficient as a mostly crystal set team with gang mods and uber resists.
Were tanked enough to hold on for while, but we all ran out of capacitor and 800s, and it was over.
Sure it was a 4v2 at one point but all our ships were out of cap, the Absolution no longer had cap to fire its guns, the Rapier and Ishkur had no real offense fitted, and me in my CNR, while still able to fire, really had no chance at breaking either of those tanks with cruise launchers nor did I have the capacitor to keep my shield tank going long enough to have a chance since I had run out of 800s even before BoBs focus had shifted to me.
Kayo says he ran out of 800s towards the end himself, considering the awesome support he got from the Vulture you can't say we didnt fight the BoB team as hard as anyone else in this tournament.
There is a reason no one in this tournament was able to put a single dent in the BoB team till our match.
Their shield tank setup and gang setup was THAT good.. believe it or not, the IAC team packed very good firepower, I was doing about 580 DPS in my CNR and Tyrrax was putting down at least 500 DPS with beams.. 1080 DPS is nothing to sneeze at especially from 40km.
It just wasn't enough to ***** what BoB fielded, we needed to come up with a new tactic to get past BoB and we just never sat down and put the ships and strategy together so in that respect we boned it, but oh well hindsight is 20/20.
So anyways, enjoy ripping on the IAC team. Whatever floats your boat. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Avon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:18:00 -
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Thing is Jim, IAC have brought the smack upon themselves.
No point moaning about it now.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Jim Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 24/07/2006 17:26:58 laggy forums.. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:27:00 -
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You guys need to sit back and chill. Well fought from both sides, and entertaining to watch.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Thing is Jim, IAC have brought the smack upon themselves.
No point moaning about it now.
There was plenty of smack to go around from various teams BoBs included, I see no point in ripping soley on IAC for that. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
Medici
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:32:00 -
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Your right of course my PShopping skills aren't all there *****ed up to be,but as far as judging the match from what the commentators say,I can assure you your wrong. I was poking fun at the match which I thought was spectacular from both sides,the ending was heightened by the struggle of the match and was top class. Nevertheless at the end every pilot gets spanked,happened to me im sure its happened to you. To the Victor go the spoils,and things being the other way around i'm sure BoB would be gutted. Linkage
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Malfesa Longoten
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:58:00 -
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Lame.
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Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:17:00 -
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Sounds like Jim Raynor doesn't like the taste of humble pie.
Buhu.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Sounds like Jim Raynor doesn't like the taste of humble pie.
Buhu.
No Alasse, I just don't enjoy bring ripped on for losing to the best team fielded as if we made some huge nooblar mistakes.
We did pretty well considering our strat simply didn't have what it took to beat the vulture/scim uberness BoB fielded.
I actually like quite a few people in BoB, especially Kayo who is probably one of my better friends in EVE actually, so no I am not bitter.
Being dissed by random losers who have no idea what they are talking about, that kind of bugs me, yes. ------ I'll make a sig later. |
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Medici
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:58:00 -
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In the spirit of the forums,ill jump for the bait Jim. Its not really complicated to see what happened,you got taken down and bested,it was tight,but you lost. Whatever your tactics were didn't get you the win. Maybe next time?
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Admiral Pieg
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor Edited by: Jim Raynor on 24/07/2006 17:13:16
Originally by: Medici Finally managed to get a quality screenie of the thrilling Semi Final match between Bob and IAC. You can find it here.Linkage Well done guys awesome fight
rabble rabble rabble
Its still pretty funny that you lost a 4vs2, especially after all that smack. ______________
Pod from above. |
Kayosoni
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:40:00 -
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well I had 4 800s left. -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |
EL TITAN
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:12:00 -
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that was one great comeback ;o _________________________________________________ <3 hi |
Gunstar Zero
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Gunstar Zero on 24/07/2006 22:34:42
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Avon Thing is Jim, IAC have brought the smack upon themselves.
No point moaning about it now.
There was plenty of smack to go around from various teams BoBs included, I see no point in ripping soley on IAC for that.
aye, though Tyrrax was especially adept at getting people fired up about it.
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Galifardeua
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.24 23:09:00 -
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To me it all means that after the matches it would have been nice to set a pair of inteviews with the commanding officers of the respective fleets to explain a bit of what they did right and what they did wrong. At least on the eliminatory phase, when someone loses, so no tactics are discovered (at least not from the losing team ).
Have fun.
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Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.24 23:35:00 -
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You guys put up a good fight, I think you will find most of the smack is a direct result of TT's many comments before the match (not enough damage output anyone?).
I do have a question though (and please take it as just that, It isn't smack).
How was your strategy supposed to work? Considering your strat had your entire team run out of cap before doing any serious damage to any of the three pivotal ships. As well as the fact that the ships you did kill had lost there protection due to a CTD.. What was supposed to happen?
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voodoo
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
It just wasn't enough to ***** what BoB fielded, we needed to come up with a new tactic to get past BoB and we just never sat down and put the ships and strategy together so in that respect we boned it, but oh well hindsight is 20/20.
my sig quoted for truth seems you had plenty of time.
I dont normally run smack at all, ever... BUT I must say MUHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahhahahaha!!!
"we spent 3 months and 4 billion training for this - we will win -IAC"
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: voodoo sig
I never said anything remotely similar to that, thus IAC didn't, nice flamebait tho.
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Luc Boye
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk stuff
But cat ears on fanfest still stands, no?
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 25/07/2006 00:43:39
Originally by: voodoo sig
I never said anything remotely similar to that, thus IAC didn't, nice flamebait tho.
Originally by: Ab Initio You guys put up a good fight, I think you will find most of the smack is a direct result of TT's many comments before the match (not enough damage output anyone?).
Did you have enough dmg output in the match against ASCN ?
By contrast I'm 99% sure that our team's damage output would've been enough against them, even staying out of nosf range.
And as for your dmg output in our match, I rather doubt you would even have taken our heretic out if our ishkur's combat drones hadn't been on it for some reason and you only took the other ships out when they ran out of cap.
Quote: I do have a question though (and please take it as just that, It isn't smack).
How was your strategy supposed to work? Considering your strat had your entire team run out of cap before doing any serious damage to any of the three pivotal ships. As well as the fact that the ships you did kill had lost there protection due to a CTD.. What was supposed to happen?
We intended to take out all your logistic drones (worked), then your small ships, could've happened once we got closer and i switched my gank setup absolution to multifreq crystals, we multiplied their sigs by like 2.8 with our Rapier's painters, and raynor's cruise missiles had what, 213 explosion radius ? Didn't come to that of course since our cap ran out approximately at the same time as your scimitar ctded, small ships rapidly went poof.
Then we went for the vulture ( bad choice ) but we were out of cap anyway so couldn't have taken raven out fast enough either, and I assume the Vulture had more remote shield boosting going on than the raven did. (one medium s95a at most)
Basically we woefully underestimated our cap needs, would've brought a nosf setup but didn't have one ready, severe lack of preparation in the last week or so, lack of pilots with sufficiently adaptable skillset.. my bad, too busy drinking and partying i guess.
I'm pretty sure you said that you and Jim had been planning for this tourney for a few months, you kept going on about how much isk you spent in full pirate implants and such, and how your team had over 195m skillpoints all together... It was in pre-records and live on the couch...
... too busy drinking and partying eh.... yeah after seeing what a lively guy you are on EvE TV, I totally believe this!
Careful how you backpedal, it's all recorded and will probably be on the DVD...
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:21:00 -
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I said we'd been planning for this for months yes. I never said our strategy was unbeatable, I said I couldn't think of a way to beat it myself. TWD obviously could.
We planned for changing the strat in case someone came up something better or a counter, why would we do that if we believed it was unbeatable ?
I never said we'd win, I said I was optimistic. Watch the prerecord and then come spouting your trash on the forums. You can download torrents of the streams from every day so no need to wait for the DVD.
I did not say we'd spent 4 billion on it seeing as how we spent more.
Where exactly am I backpedaling ? GG on putting words in my mouth and when I object you accuse me of backpedaling... Get your facts straight and prove me wrong if you can.
People say I'm arrogant, maybe eveTV people constantly asking me about myself and my team and how I expected we'd do is part of the reason for that, personally I don't consider myself arrogant at all, I wouldn't bother working the angles and throwing a match to better position us in the tournament, or pass on being a "good sport" I thought we were unbeatable.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye But cat ears on fanfest still stands, no?
Catsuit actually, and of course it stands. As I said, I wont bring my own outfit, but I assume Entity or some BoB member will handle that part. |
Kookman
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:31:00 -
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Quote: And as for your dmg output in our match, I rather doubt you would even have taken our heretic out if our ishkur's combat drones hadn't been on it for some reason Embarassed and you only took the other ships out when they ran out of cap.
You can't beat BoB when your strategy is "vastly superior" , you can't beat BoB when your strategy is totally crap and you can't even beat BoB when everything goes in your favor.
And you talking about the ishkur's combar drones... hahahaha... ahahahaaha!
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:45:00 -
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When pray tell was our strategy totally crap ?
Hardly everything going in our favor or we would've met in finals, or you would've crashed when it would've made a difference.
GJ tho on showing yet again how deserved BoB's reputation for being utter smacktard forum trolls is.
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Top Hat
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 07:45:00 -
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Gotta love karma though, your unsportsman like conduct bit you right in the ass, when you refused Kookman to return to the battlefield, I bet you thought you had it in the bag when Kookman dropped and you took down Gunstar & TWD quickly.
At the end of the day, IAC, you talked the talk throughout the weeks leading upto the tournament, you should expect this level of response from BoB members, you brought it upon yourselves.
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Kookman
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk GJ tho on showing yet again how deserved BoB's reputation for being utter smacktard forum trolls is.
Hey at least our reputation is deserved... It's a pity we can't say the same thing about yours.
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Avon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 09:11:00 -
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Tyraxx Thorrk undone Hopes and dreams become an egg: Pride before the fall.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Dark Destiny
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Posted - 2006.07.25 10:06:00 -
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"If fear alters behavior, you're already defeated."
Brenda Hammond
If you believed your tactics were so sound why did you refuse reentry to a CTD'd player?
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RogerWilco
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.25 10:06:00 -
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Tyrrax, u got wtfpwn¦ed - enough is enough, dont humiliate yourself further in this debate...
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