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Beta Vixen
Imperial Guardians
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:03:00 -
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I am the CEO and founder of Imperial Guardians.
Allow me to illustrate the depths to which these role players will sink.
Imperial Guardians is an industrial corp chartered in Abudban, Heimatar region, Minmatar space. Our name goes back to our founders, also Imperial Guardians, in Earth and Beyond. Thus, the lineage of our corp is older than that of the Amarr 'Emperor' [if and when the Amarr polity again has an Emperor].
We've made a quiet living this past year in Bleak Lands [these Amarr areas are rich in commercial opportunities; the Amarr locals seem busy with other things.] We dodged and occasionally counter-attacked the local pirates [hats off to VETO who are apparently still in Bleak Lands despite the current incursion of the larger Verisum Family].
a lightning strike knocked out my ISP on the 18th and I've been out of game since, so my information may be somewhat dated.
Last I heard, we were the target of war decs by StormRiders [since ended], Verisum Family [ongoing, I think], and a smaller outfit I've never previously heard of which seems to be an Amarr role player outfit.
As near as I can figure out, we were attacked by VF after they merged a known local pirate outfit [Knights of Chaos] either because VF is confused about our name and its pre-dating the Amarr Emperor, or because their new member outfit KCS is angry with us for countering their pirating.
As of Tuesday last, KCS had not ceased pirating despite joining VF. That says volumes, as far as I'm concerned.
While the Amarr outfit's reasoning isn't known to me [I'm out of game still], they apparently disliked some comments posted by one or more Imperial Guardians members. Afaik, no Imperial Guardians leader [they have ingame ranks of Baron or higher] has previously posted and thus no policy statement they could react to has been made.
** So here we are, a non-aligned, multi-ethnic industrial corp under war attack by both the Minmatar and Amarr role-players. [We're so non-aligned that we didn't even join the now failed Bleak Lands Alliance.]
Other non-aligned corporations might want to take notice that you could be attacked by either or both the Minmatar and Amarr roleplayers in Bleak Lands for any or no real reason. Which sure looks like piracy to me.
** The actual leaders of VF are invited to post and clarify their alliance's behaviors. Other VF members lacking in such authority should probably be ignored.
I suggest that the Amarr roleplayers might do the same. **** I'm free! I'm free!! **** Imagination comes before Accomplishment.
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Tsual
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 24/07/2006 22:18:42
Originally by: Beta Vixen I am the CEO and founder of Imperial Guardians.
Allow me to illustrate the depths to which these role players will sink.
Imperial Guardians is an industrial corp chartered in Abudban, Heimatar region, Minmatar space. Our name goes back to our founders, also Imperial Guardians, in Earth and Beyond. Thus, the lineage of our corp is older than that of the Amarr 'Emperor' [if and when the Amarr polity again has an Emperor].
Wow you are able to predate your existance back to what? 2 or 3 thousand if not more standart years? Prophet's! That is damn long time, you know.
Besides what is that Earth and Beyond? Don't tell me it is just another of those Earth is Real Sects.
******************** Moral is only usefull so far as society demands it from one to accept his presence.
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Pezzle
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:21:00 -
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I am a bit confused, I could not guess why the Minmatar attacked your corperation. As for the Amarr.. ermm.. What Amarr Alliance attacked you? Are you talking about the Verisum? They have become Pirates apparently, now demanding tribute from others interested in the Bleak Lands and shooting Non-Blue ships. I am not sure this is accurate of course, just going based on information here on Galnet and in news from other pilots. I am sure one of their representitives will be along to settle the entire matter.
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:38:00 -
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Our war was predicated on the "unofficial" support that IG provided the Aegis Militia alliance during our war with them. This action removed any suggestion of neutrality and put them clearly on the sides of the Amarr empire and Aegis Militia. For this reason alone we declared war on them. They very quickly were out gunned by only a few of our pilots taking very heavy losses. It is my understanding that during this period IG came to understand our position and ceded that they had aided and abetted the enemy, their enemy as well.
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Unuthiel
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.24 22:54:00 -
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Quote: a lightning strike knocked out my ISP on the 18th and I've been out of game since, so my information may be somewhat dated.
Er, lightning hit your what?
Quote: So here we are, a non-aligned, multi-ethnic industrial corp under war attack by both the Minmatar and Amarr role-players.
Role-players? You're under attack by Amarr and Minmatar drama companies?
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OmegaChief
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 00:34:00 -
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I think Miss Vixen is a little confused, just drink planety of fluids and you'll be alright.
Happens when pilots get over excited sometimes, they loose trackof where they are, though I must say, nice name
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Habraka
House Nosferatu Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.07.25 03:56:00 -
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If we are pirates, then you are carebears. I dispise carebears, and I usually end up killing things I dispise.
If Imperial Guardians is interested in operating in The Bleak Lands with a +5 standing from Verisum Family, don't hesitate to contact Revan Neferis, Verjigorm (I'm not really available the next few weeks).
I seriously don't like people that think they can go to low sec/0.0 and operate under the moto "I didn't harm you, you can't harm me! Pirate!11!1!1" If you go to low sec, you have to accept the risks, if you don't want to have risks while mining, go to a npc corp and stay in 1.0. If you want to live in The Bleak Lands, you either pay us, or take the risk of us shooting you. Whining here won't help your cause, except if some white-hat corp decides to help you out, something which we'll gladly welcome.
You could always leave Bleak, alternatively.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.25 05:56:00 -
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IG supposed Diplomat has contacted me asking terms of surrender. They were given 24 hours to comply.
Other than that, obviously if not, the war proceeds and why VF war dec or not is our own business. I will confirm here the words of Habraka: sheeding tears will not help and I also strongly advice that wasting my time on convos with worthless talks won't help either.
The terms were set. The first 12 hours expired so you will not be granted neutrality after surrender. Next 12 hours is for you to comply or get used to a long war ending as your AM friends, with a few poses less and the certainty that we do what we are set for. we will hunt you wherever you go.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |
Mr Vapor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 11:57:00 -
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What the hell is Ms. Vixen saying in this message? My language translator must be broken or something because all I'm hearing here is static and vomit like sounds. I'm thinking she needs to replace her implants or something.
((OOC note: This is an IC forum. I don't ever use these little sidenotes but I will this once. Forum mods, you should delete this thread right here and now or lose every shred of dignity and trust the RP community has for you. It's OOC and has no place in this particular section. Thanks.))
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.07.25 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 25/07/2006 13:27:36
Originally by: Beta Vixen [hats off to VETO who are apparently still in Bleak Lands despite the current incursion of the larger Verisum Family].
oh yeah I'm sure VETO are in trouble
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Babs Johnson
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Unuthiel
Quote: a lightning strike knocked out my ISP on the 18th and I've been out of game since, so my information may be somewhat dated.
Er, lightning hit your what?
Quote: So here we are, a non-aligned, multi-ethnic industrial corp under war attack by both the Minmatar and Amarr role-players.
Role-players? You're under attack by Amarr and Minmatar drama companies?
There are certainly drama queens on GalNet, but I think the girl is speaking in some sort of slang or dialect. I once lived in the Bleak Lands and it is quite a backwater. Divergent language patterns are to be expected, I suppose.
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Beta Vixen
Imperial Guardians
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Posted - 2006.07.26 14:17:00 -
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Imperial Guardians hereby anounces its withdrawal from the Bleak Lands at the earliest opportunity.
We acknowledge that Verisum Family brought superior force to bear on our industrial corp and hereby surrender.
Wishing to remain non-aligned, we ask the forces associated with the Amarr roleplayers to also withdraw their war dec and wish them enjoyment of their role playing war with the anti-slavery forces.
CEO and founder in EVE -- Imperial Guardians
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Mr Vapor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.26 14:40:00 -
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Seriously, someone needs to fix her translator. All I keep hearing is static. It all sounds like gibberish.
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Pagan God
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.26 15:47:00 -
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First of all: *Posted - 24/07/2006 22:03:00 While the Amarr outfit's reasoning isn't known to me [I'm out of game still], they apparently disliked some comments posted by one or more Imperial Guardians members. Afaik, no Imperial Guardians leader [they have ingame ranks of Baron or higher] has previously posted and thus no policy statement they could react to has been made.* *** *Posted - 2006.07.19 13:09:00/author:Scipio Amarrianus/ The Imperial Guardians are withdrawing its support of the Amarr Empire as a result of the war with Storm Riders. We have seen the error of our ways and as a token of our sincerity, we have agreed to free 1000 slaves. We end our support of the Empire and we seek an end to slavery throughout the universe.
Thank you and good day.* My reasoning may be flawed but with this one statement made by your pilot you have: 1.Stated your previous policy of support towards the Amarr Empire. 2.Renounced it and made it clearly obvious that you shall support the Minmatar and their fight for freeing slaves. Frankly a corporation that makes these announcements is clearly NOT "non-aligned" and since you have acted against The Empire you shall be treated accordingly: as enemies of The Empire.
The next contact between our organisations will be either on the battlefield (if any of your pilots will ever undock while we are in sistem) or as terms of your surrender.
" Thank you and good day. "
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.26 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Beta Vixen Imperial Guardians hereby anounces its withdrawal from the Bleak Lands at the earliest opportunity.
We acknowledge that Verisum Family brought superior force to bear on our industrial corp and hereby surrender.
Wishing to remain non-aligned, we ask the forces associated with the Amarr roleplayers to also withdraw their war dec and wish them enjoyment of their role playing war with the anti-slavery forces.
CEO and founder in EVE -- Imperial Guardians
Imperial guardians have complied with ALL terms I have set for their surrender. Their affiliations from now on is not of VF concern. They will be granted 24 hours when the war gets over, to remove themselves completely from bleak.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |
Verone
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Posted - 2006.07.26 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 25/07/2006 13:27:36
Originally by: Beta Vixen [hats off to VETO who are apparently still in Bleak Lands despite the current incursion of the larger Verisum Family].
oh yeah I'm sure VETO are in trouble
Both the Bleak Lands, and Metropolis we consider home. We have faced off aganist 500 Pilot alliances in the area before and shrugged off the losses while taking down as many sheep as we can with us. Specifically the Bleak Lands Watch, who no longer exist.
Numbers will not make us falter, and from what we have seen so far the only registered kills aganist us by anyone considered even a remote threat in these two regions have been at overwhelming odds on our adversaries part and heavy reliance on the use of Electronic warfare. Such is life.
Dying for our cause and for our family is something every member of Veto has chosen to accept and aknowledge. We have our own objectives to meet while in the area and will remain present in both the Bleak Lands, and Metropolis for the forseeable future.
Verisum Family's numbers do not concern us. While we have lost several vessels to them, one of my own inclusive, this has primarily been due to massively superior numbers and overwhelming use Electronic Ship System Disruption, something we face every time we do business.
Should it come to the point where we become "blobbed", so to speak, we simply walk away and return when the odds are not equal to that of ritual suicide.
Their motives and the reason for their presence is their own, and is of no interest to Veto.
We will continue to operate business as usual.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 25/07/2006 13:27:36
Originally by: Beta Vixen [hats off to VETO who are apparently still in Bleak Lands despite the current incursion of the larger Verisum Family].
oh yeah I'm sure VETO are in trouble
Both the Bleak Lands, and Metropolis we consider home. We have faced off aganist 500 Pilot alliances in the area before and shrugged off the losses while taking down as many sheep as we can with us. Specifically the Bleak Lands Watch, who no longer exist.
Numbers will not make us falter, and from what we have seen so far the only registered kills aganist us by anyone considered even a remote threat in these two regions have been at overwhelming odds on our adversaries part and heavy reliance on the use of Electronic warfare. Such is life.
Dying for our cause and for our family is something every member of Veto has chosen to accept and aknowledge. We have our own objectives to meet while in the area and will remain present in both the Bleak Lands, and Metropolis for the forseeable future.
Verisum Family's numbers do not concern us. While we have lost several vessels to them, one of my own inclusive, this has primarily been due to massively superior numbers and overwhelming use Electronic Ship System Disruption, something we face every time we do business.
Should it come to the point where we become "blobbed", so to speak, we simply walk away and return when the odds are not equal to that of ritual suicide.
Their motives and the reason for their presence is their own, and is of no interest to Veto.
We will continue to operate business as usual.
VF never had interest on engaging Veto. If this has been happening, is because our NBSI stance. Vetos presence at bleak lands is not unwelcome.
Revan Neferis Verisum Shiras V.F Noctus. |
Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.07.27 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Beta Vixen ...Allow me to illustrate the depths to which these role players will sink.
Imperial Guardians is an industrial corp chartered in Abudban, Heimatar region, Minmatar space. Our name goes back to our founders, also Imperial Guardians, in Earth and Beyond. Thus, the lineage of our corp is older than that of the Amarr 'Emperor' [if and when the Amarr polity again has an Emperor]....
((I really hate having to do this and I'd appreciate it if this could be moved to the appropriate OOC forum. I have noticed increased ill will towards the role play community in game and a lot of what is said there is echoed in this post. Firstly I think you need to draw a line between the real world and the game world. Earth & Beyond does not exist in the game world and in the game world there has been an Amarrian empire for thousands of years. Blurring the lines between fantasy and reality like this is unhealthy.))
Originally by: Beta Vixen ...Other non-aligned corporations might want to take notice that you could be attacked by either or both the Minmatar and Amarr roleplayers in Bleak Lands for any or no real reason. Which sure looks like piracy to me...
((Anyone may be attacked by anyone in Eve. You are not required to role play but it would be nice if the choice to be a roleplayer was at least respected.
I don't know why VF attacked you but I'm sure they had a reason. Stormriders probably went to war with you because you were caught carrying slaves or just for being Amarrian. They will have to clarify though, I'm just guessing based on their stated mandate. If a group of people choose to role play pirates then they can have piracy as a reason to war dec, it's perfectly valid.
If a bunch of guys who have no interest in role play choose to just war dec at random thats fine. The role players amongst us just write it off as pirates / mercs / crazies and get on with shooting them. Everyone is happy.
Roleplayers simply play within the background story of the game and act as their characters would act if they lived in that world. For some of us the stories that are generated from all that are more important than ISK. We only seek to enhance the game, not to take anything away from it. If you want no part of role play we can respect that and that is all we expect in return. Mutual respect.
The fact is nobody needs a reason to war dec anyone. They just pony up the ISK and start shooting. Reasons just make it more interesting.))
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 27/07/2006 11:05:28 Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 27/07/2006 09:44:00 (( OOC: I think these are valid concerns, though the forum for them is completely wrong.
Thrace is correct (at least I can still say that OOC!).
To add, I think the key thing to realize is that when RP corporations say something about themselves IC, they might lie, or sweeten the truth, and they might very well do that either 1) purposefully IC, for propaganda purposes, or 2) purposefully OOC, knowing as players it does not make sense but playing characters who are blinded by their ideals. Just call them on it, IC. That's when things get fun.
It is not really different from non-RPers doing the same.
In any case of unprovoked aggression from a surprising party, the correct response is to contact the corporation/alliance in question, ask WTF, and then work from the answer. If it seems to you they are lying, well, call them liars and proceed from there.
Or if that's too complicated, just shoot back.
Whether or not the party in question is RPer or not does not really enter it. It's the same game anyway.
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Peace in a pod - Liberty Network Gradient is hiring
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Violet Ju'wien
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Violet Ju''wien on 27/07/2006 10:33:18 This one was for double post emphasis! ----- "Boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past" |
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Violet Ju'wien
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 10:33:00 -
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Dear spirits! There's so much static and gobbledinuts on this topic that we're gonna need a translation!
I'd recommend we have this moved to the Library for one of the archivists to figure it out. ----- "Boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past" |
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Eshtir
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Posted - 2006.07.28 14:53:00 -
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Beta Vixen, your thread will be moved to Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions forum due the heavy "Out ouf Character" influence in your post, as the Intergalactic Summit is "In character" only.
forum rules | [email protected]
Yulai, we have a problem!
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TheTaintedOne
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2006.07.29 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Specifically the Bleak Lands Watch, who no longer exist.
Didn't Slacker Industry have something to do with that? I was around BL when they just war decced the Bleak Lands Watch alliance, whatever it was called. Can anyone fill me in on the rest of the story?
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.07.29 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: TheTaintedOne
Originally by: Verone
Specifically the Bleak Lands Watch, who no longer exist.
Didn't Slacker Industry have something to do with that? I was around BL when they just war decced the Bleak Lands Watch alliance, whatever it was called. Can anyone fill me in on the rest of the story?
Correct.
They'd been trying to blob Veto for a few months, and formed "Cairdeas Alliance" to prevent people from wardeccing their individual corps easily as they liked to use the sentries to their advantage when ganking lone outlaws.
They were smacking us badly on their forums, so I registered there to speak to them about our corp, their admin approved my registration and accidentally gave me access to their whole forums... including all their CEO and director areas as can be seen here. (I posted a couple of threads in their CEO areas for a laugh, all in good humour after some of the derogatory remarks that were made against us.)
Subsequently we had all the information we needed and flattened a freighter full of their assets inbound to Sahtogas. One of the CEO's of a Cairdeas corp came to me with more info on them, and I gave him some isk in good spirit to spill his guts.
The story was of total dis array, the alliance arguing and falling apart inside after the forum breach and a lack of trust between corps. He also confirmed the contents of the freighter we brought down, which was piloted by a corp friendly to Cairdeas and carrying their assets, lets just say the cargo was rather expensive.
It was then I found out that Slacker Industries had wardecced them, and I was about to contact RF to give them all the info we had, but Slackers flattened what was left of them in a couple of days, ending with the alliance disbanding and heading for highsec.
It was a fun couple of weeks in the Bleak Lands...
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Mr Happ
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.29 15:29:00 -
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Hold on
You live in the Bleak Lands which is well known for random war / piracy
The u ***** when u don't aline to a faction, i.e Minmatar or Amarr when it is again well known for being a role play area
And you complain?
Here's a tip
Move out
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Hardin
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.29 21:15:00 -
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Just to clarify -
Verisum Family are not an 'Amarr' outfit.
In fact they are a piratical bunch of heretics who if anything could be considered anti-Amarrian. The Amarrian loyalist organisations (CVA, Aegis Militia and PIE Inc) consider Verisum to be outcast and there are 'official' wars currently in progress.
Outside the 'Dark Seraph' corporation the majority of Verisum Family corporations are merely paid mercenaries. Most notable amongst these are the Omniscent Order (formerly Cult of Cthulu) who are being paid blood money to attack Amarrian interests.
Although the Bleak Lands is not an area of central importance to the CVA we do mount successful patrols to the region to combat both Minmatar terrorists and the heretical sinners of the Verisum Family who frequent the region.
Amarr Victor
------------------------------ Hardin's Blog (BACK UP!)
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SLIM
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.07.30 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Truth and stuff.
Yes, that's essentially it. Basically, we just swept up what was left of them, which wasn't much. That's what we get for being late for dinner.
As for Verisum, they're the standard low-sec pvp types. We've been keeping an eye out that way in case something interesting develops.
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