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Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
32
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:55:00 -
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IGÇÖll preface to say that I am still only a month into EVE, so please excuse any fundamental errors that I might make in this post. I have listened, with great amusement, to the two segments of the manifesto and found it to be a rather interesting perspective.
Mining is the building block for all industrial efforts that produce ships, weaponry and other modules that are used to conduct war against each other. If the ore flows freely, the economy remains healthy and players become less risk-averse if replacement ships remain relatively cheap based on low input costs (ore).
The Manifesto seems to touch on the fact that miners will conduct their activities in high-sec due to simple cost/rewards analysis. The suggestion is that high sec should be less safe to encourage miners to populate null sec and thus create more PvP content (ships guarding/attacking mining fleets).
Whether this creates compelling content is questionable, and it is always prudent to see if there are some selfish motivations attached. Null sec seems to be rampant with these so-called GÇ£renter alliancesGÇ¥. These abominable structures allow the weak to conduct their ISK-making activities in peace, while providing tribute to these mafia-like coalition cartels. Not being content enslaving these null sec blue collar workers, these mafia coalition cartels are projecting propaganda at high sec residents in order to pervert more wealth distribution to their coffers. Indeed, what is being proposed is to replace CONCORD with mafia coalition cartel overlords for protection, provided you give them a piece of your action.
No doubt, a more dangerous high sec would cut ore supplies down, and drive prices up. Miners would not reap additional rewards, and instead, would be worse off as they would be subjected to GǣrentGǥ (i.e., protection money). Simple pilots of limited means would be hurt with higher costs, and thus would be forced to fly less powerful shipsGǪ unless, of course, they join up with these mafia cartels.
It seems like an insidious plot to further accumulate wealth into the hands of the few and already rich, while also furthering their power hold on the galaxy by making devices of war prohibitively expensive.
I am starting to wonder if CODE is merely a puppet organization of these rent-sucking coalitions that purport to be about furthering PvP and saving EVE, while their true cause is to enslave more freedom-loving empire citizens by denying them arms, and providing them with higher taxation.
I look forward to listening to further distributions of this Manifesto, but I will maintain my healthy skepticism of what you are truly trying to accomplish.
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Thomas Mayaki
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2014.09.03 12:06:00 -
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Sasha Nyemtsov wrote:Manifesto II - How Highsec miners threaten EVE, and how we can stop them. James 315's closely argued evisceration of the real threat to EVE. The links take you to the relevant SoundCloud file. New files are initially linked from the MinerBumping Forum by my MB Forum alt, Klaus. If you'd like to discuss the content of the following audio files, I entreat you to do so in a mature and reasonable manner. The AccusationThe Carebears Killed Nullsec PvP
Its good to hear my AFK mining is now ok with the New Order. |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1249
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Posted - 2014.09.03 15:25:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:
It seems like an insidious plot to further accumulate wealth into the hands of the few and already rich, while also furthering their power hold on the galaxy by making devices of war prohibitively expensive.
I am starting to wonder if CODE is merely a puppet organization of these rent-sucking coalitions that purport to be about furthering PvP and saving EVE, while their true cause is to enslave more freedom-loving empire citizens by denying them arms, and providing them with higher taxation.
Ok, lets assume, for a minute, that you are correct, ( I guess its not THAT far of a stretch) and TNO is just an extension of nullsec politics.
You can bypass that entirely. How? Go mine in lowsec. Yes, you will need protection when you do this. You can either join a corp that has the ability to protect its mining fleets, create your own corp, or pay a lowsec pirate alliance to allow you to operate in "their" space.
Even MORE alternatively, you can mine in WH space. Much more dangerous, much more lucrative. Although refining/selling the minderals gets to be a pain in the ass. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
943
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Posted - 2014.09.04 08:45:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:b) resources in the form of coders 10 GOTO 30 20 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 30 END I am help?
Fixing this for you.
10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 WAIT 5 30 GOTO 10
Take it from a pro coder :P |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
943
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Posted - 2014.09.04 08:51:00 -
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Lilly Naari wrote:
What you do not seem to understand is that Industrialists don't care what minerals are available where. We can buy every thing we need. And you those in low and 0.0 Must accept OUR prices for such. And you also Must accept OUR prices on the market if you choose to "Buy" anything.
You do realize that mineral wealth is not only generated by mining, right? :) In fact, even after mission loot drop nerfing - not even close :)
Also, I hear tales of some large collations that seem to be sitting on... moderate sized stockpiles of minerals :P |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Scope Gallente Federation
999
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:06:00 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:La Rynx wrote:codies fight only rookie targets. lol, I look at their killboard, I see plenty of kills that aren't rookies, haulers or miners; in fact I see lots of ships that can shoot back being killed by them. In short, you're full of it. Quote:All others are better protected, pros and botters alike. By whom, or what? Quote:That they can mine longer without returning to base. Higher productivity / better output.
netflixblabla = propaganda Ahh the old ISK/hr defence. As for propaganda, would you kindly explain what the Mackinaw that I've been mining next to (on my main) for the last hour* is doing? He's certainly not playing Eve, I know this for a fact because his mining lasers haven't activated once, nor has he moved. Quote:codies shoot newbies and drive them from EvE before they can HTFU. Now that is propaganda, it's not good propaganda, because it can be easily proved false. I've spoken to a few gankers, they've been more than happy to give me advice on how not to get ganked, how to fit my ships, explained various game mechanics and generally helped me out. Probably because I treat them like human beings, not like scum; you should try it sometime. *Make that 2 hours and counting.... he's still there. It's such a shame that the system is well off the beaten track for the usual suspects, and that I don't have the skills to gank him I know this post is a bit old, but its a shame I can only give it one 'like'. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5532
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:23:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:b) resources in the form of coders 10 GOTO 30 20 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 30 END I am help? Fixing this for you. 10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 WAIT 5 30 GOTO 10 Take it from a pro coder :P
So: 10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 GOTO 40 30 END 40
is gud? "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:52:00 -
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James 315 and people like him, who only exist within EVE for the purpose of angering other players and then laughing at their reactions, are a far bigger threat to EVE than any miner ever will be.
This is not a knock on ganking, baiting, or any such players in particular. It's a knock on people who wouldn't even play the game if they couldn't use mechanics to **** off other players.
He is literally a cancer to this game. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble . |
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:05:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:
To be fair those hundreds of people probably would have quit soon anyway.
if they are quitting its probably because EVE is continually a stale, broken, skill-less and imbalalanced pos where risk averse cowards are rewarded for beating up on casual players and noobs in high sec.
Meanwhile derps come to the forums claiming that the MTU drone aggression bug was an intended mechanic and we should just accept that sociopaths have it oh-so-easy in EVE.
If EVE weren't so brokenly easy and so gentle on the sociopaths, we wouldn't have a forum filled with these life-less degenerates who somehow think the game is supposed to be designed to reward risk-averse cowards who have gotten **** on in every other pvp game. And we might be seeing more players instead of a decline. |
Paranoid Loyd
1721
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Posted - 2014.09.05 15:57:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
To be fair those hundreds of people probably would have quit soon anyway.
if they are quitting its probably because EVE is continually a stale, broken, skill-less and imbalalanced pos where risk averse cowards are rewarded for beating up on casual players and noobs in high sec. Meanwhile derps come to the forums claiming that the MTU drone aggression bug was an intended mechanic and we should just accept that sociopaths have it oh-so-easy in EVE. If EVE weren't so brokenly easy and so gentle on the sociopaths, we wouldn't have a forum filled with these life-less degenerates who somehow think the game is supposed to be designed to reward risk-averse cowards who have gotten **** on in every other pvp game. And we might be seeing more players instead of a decline.
You really gotta take it easy man. This much rage about a video game can't be good for your health. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5540
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:43:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:if they are quitting its probably because EVE is continually a stale, broken, skill-less and imbalalanced pos
So, if you dislike the game so much, why do you still play? "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1493
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Posted - 2014.09.05 21:33:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:You got me.
It is mostly not only.
In fact freighters are "fair game".
Next thing you know they are OT7 on the bridge and obtain superpowers to clear hisec of SP's. |
Paranoid Loyd
1729
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Posted - 2014.09.05 21:37:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:if they are quitting its probably because EVE is continually a stale, broken, skill-less and imbalalanced pos So, if you dislike the game so much, why do you still play?
Misery loves company.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6042
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Posted - 2014.09.06 01:08:00 -
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Balron Slayer wrote:Buddy of mine lives in Nullsec (Providence), he is actually safer there than Hisec or Lowsec! Why do people think that playing in Nullsec means you have balls? Also many of the people there who are not taking part in a group fights seem to be flying around in cheap ships to minimize losses.
I'm not saying that miners in Hisec should be able to compete with nullsec miners, but I am saying don't blow the difficulty of nullsec out of proportion.
The key difference is the inhabitant of nullsec put in measures to make their space safer, while people in highsec do nothing. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6042
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Posted - 2014.09.06 01:11:00 -
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La Rynx wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Let me get this right,.. codies fight only rookie targets. All others are better protected, pros and botters alike.
Propaganda only works when it isn't complete bullshit. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6042
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Posted - 2014.09.06 01:20:00 -
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NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
To be fair those hundreds of people probably would have quit soon anyway.
if they are quitting its probably because EVE is continually a stale, broken, skill-less and imbalalanced pos where risk averse cowards are rewarded for beating up on casual players and noobs in high sec. Meanwhile derps come to the forums claiming that the MTU drone aggression bug was an intended mechanic and we should just accept that sociopaths have it oh-so-easy in EVE. If EVE weren't so brokenly easy and so gentle on the sociopaths, we wouldn't have a forum filled with these life-less degenerates who somehow think the game is supposed to be designed to reward risk-averse cowards who have gotten **** on in every other pvp game. And we might be seeing more players instead of a decline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dAUYAg8mAQ This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee & Grammar Gestapo. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
532
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Posted - 2014.09.06 01:31:00 -
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also... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye2u1za7Pac#t=514 |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
963
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Posted - 2014.09.06 05:52:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:b) resources in the form of coders 10 GOTO 30 20 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 30 END I am help? Fixing this for you. 10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 WAIT 5 30 GOTO 10 Take it from a pro coder :P So: 10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 GOTO 40 30 END 40 is gud?
Nope. Not gud :(
http://puu.sh/bnxEZ/8e1a6f0b5a.png |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
963
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Posted - 2014.09.06 05:57:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:
To be fair those hundreds of people probably would have quit soon anyway.
if they are quitting its probably because EVE is continually a stale, broken, skill-less and imbalalanced pos where risk averse cowards are rewarded for beating up on casual players and noobs in high sec. Meanwhile derps come to the forums claiming that the MTU drone aggression bug was an intended mechanic and we should just accept that sociopaths have it oh-so-easy in EVE. If EVE weren't so brokenly easy and so gentle on the sociopaths, we wouldn't have a forum filled with these life-less degenerates who somehow think the game is supposed to be designed to reward risk-averse cowards who have gotten **** on in every other pvp game. And we might be seeing more players instead of a decline. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dAUYAg8mAQ
Lest we never forget.
Imma phirin my lazor :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y9YWjrbpzk
Shoop da whoop I'ma firin' mah lazor... 'Til the end of time And I'm rickrollin like a champion But I do it for the lols
Shoop da whoop I'ma firin mah lazor Baby, Shoop da whoop And I know it's never gunna phase ya.. Unless I'm chargin
And I'm postin in the threads full of frosted butts But I do it for the lols |
Sasha Nyemtsov
60
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Posted - 2014.09.07 06:10:00 -
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Hi All,
I've just uploaded to SoundCloud the 3rd part of this popular series. Thank you for continuing to listen and reflect!
Some of us are just too young to recall the Incarna fiasco or the time when CCP was caught cheating at its own game. James 315 isn't; he was there.
The Carebears Almost Shut Down EVE Completely
Sasha
www.minerbumping.com |
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Amro One
One.
91
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Posted - 2014.09.07 08:27:00 -
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The word of James312 has no power in the safety of Warouh.
The heavenly shimmer of the ice blinds all that are not clean and worthy for her glitter and rusty minerals. Let the bosom of her majesty, Amarr, comfort you in riches unfathomable by other wood be miners.
The chosen ones ride on the back of skiffs pulled by Orcas boosting them to the highest level of enlighten yielding powers with rang farther then your eyes can see.
Come one Come all, MTUs await for your heavy burden of ice allowing ISK to flow freely about wallets..
Come create your own CODE. as you are the catalyst to a new beginning. |
Solecist Project
9813
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Posted - 2014.09.08 07:27:00 -
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I sniff the scent of my master here ................ ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
Sasha Nyemtsov
60
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:10:00 -
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I've just uploaded to SoundCloud the 4th part of James 315's 'Manifesto II'.
These days you only need to read down the list of headings in EVE-O's Crime and Punishment sub-forum to find examples of carebears bawling for 'yet another nerf' to suicide ganking.
In the latest excerpt from James 315's seminal deconstruction of the carebear mindset, he turns to the subject of the game-changing nerfs they've already had.
In each case it is we, the gankers, who have had to adapt, to up our game. And we have done so, to the credit of all involved.
The Endless History of Nerf Demands
www.minerbumping.com |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4266
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:52:00 -
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Is this still going on? The only people that even remotely care are already part of CODE, and they don't need to listen to it, the tl;dr version works. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
57
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Posted - 2014.09.14 09:39:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Is this still going on? The only people that even remotely care are already part of CODE, and they don't need to listen to it, the tl;dr version works. Perhaps need is too strong, but certainly I enjoy listening to this excellent ongoing series. I find it both enlightening and entertaining.
Why so hostile? This game is suppose to be fun.
Keep it up Sasha! |
Sasha Nyemtsov
61
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Posted - 2014.09.14 11:14:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Is this still going on? The only people that even remotely care are already part of CODE, and they don't need to listen to it, the tl;dr version works.
Hi Lucas, and thanks for giving me the opportunity to point out that quite a few Code supporters and even CODEdot Alliance members remain unaware of the process of which they form a part. It helps to root us in a backstory which is highly relevant to recent events, and which must be understood in order for those of us with an eye to the future to be able to help shape that future with confidence.
If you follow the MinerBumping blog at all, you'll know that we achieve a fair number of conversions from carebear/miner to fully-fledged Code Enforcer. Some of these converts read all they can get their 'hands' on about the New Order, including James 315's earlier writings.
But there exist, of course, those for whom the written word is not their preferred means of acquiring new information. For them, I hope, the recordings make a welcome addition to the available sources.
www.minerbumping.com |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
850
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Posted - 2014.09.14 12:14:00 -
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I listened too it. Seems a bit heavy in speculation.
High sec miners are indeed a threat to Eve as a whole but on a level much closer to home.
They scare away new players from Eve.
Whenever nullsec executes a major fight. Eve ends up in the news. Tens of thousands of new players are drawn to the game because of it.
But before those players even reach nullsec, they are kidnapped by the highsec carebear population and get bored out of the game before they can reach the real content.
New players arrive in a high sec system and say "wow so this is Eve huh?" then a carebear jumps on him and says "let me show you Eve" Veldspar mining. Mission running "This is Eve" he says and the player ends up believing him because everyone in earshot will confirm that these things are in fact what Eve is about.
We all live in Eve and more players are good for all of us. But while nullsec draws new players. High sec abuses their privilege of being the first people to interact with new players and use that to scare them away.
What we have to do is suppress the high sec players with violence whenever they try to corrupt new players. All the while we need to emphasize the importance of groups like RVB, Eve Uni and even Brave Collective as an alternative to get the true eve experience.
But new players can only hold their breath for so long. As Eve drops them waist deep into the noxious gases of the high sec waste pile. We need to grab their hand and pull them up into the fresh air of null sec before they suffocate. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Sasha Nyemtsov
61
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Posted - 2014.09.14 12:59:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:Seems a bit heavy in speculation.
James 315 wrote the piece in April 2012, and it seems to have been designed so that there was a balance between claims for which there was already evidence (nerf history) and speculation (would the carebears continue to demand nerfs to Highsec PvP?). The implication being, of course, that their begging would continue as before. Unless I've misunderstood you that is. Please correct me if I have.
The general thrust of the whole Manifesto II has, I think, been largely vindicated by subsequent events. In other words, carebears are still asking CCP to nerf Highsec suicide ganking (Freighters, now, for example).
Of course, James 315 was a Nullsec player before turning his gaze Highsec-wards, so the points you make further into your post are pleasantly familiar.
Perhaps I could do with some of that 'fresh air of null sec'.
www.minerbumping.com |
Angelique Duchemin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
851
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Posted - 2014.09.14 13:13:00 -
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Sasha Nyemtsov wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:Seems a bit heavy in speculation.
James 315 wrote the piece in April 2012, and it seems to have been designed so that there was a balance between claims for which there was already evidence (nerf history) and speculation (would the carebears continue to demand nerfs to Highsec PvP?). The implication being, of course, that their begging would continue as before. Unless I've misunderstood you that is. Please correct me if I have. The general thrust of the whole Manifesto II has, I think, been largely vindicated by subsequent events. In other words, carebears are still asking CCP to nerf Highsec suicide ganking (Freighters, now, for example). Of course, James 315 was a Nullsec player before turning his gaze Highsec-wards, so the points you make further into your post are pleasantly familiar. Perhaps I could do with some of that 'fresh air of null sec'.
But then high sec bears have always been asking for a nerf to suicide ganking. They did it years before the manifesto and they are still doing it now. Chances are that they will be doing it 5 years from now and a prediction of that would earn no credit either.
All CCP has done is give them a noose to hang themselves with in the form of the Freighter changes that allowed them to tank their Freighters to a pretty large degree.
But all they did was fit cargo expanders instead which let them carry even more things but crippled their already weak tank. Making them easier to gank. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
72
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Posted - 2014.09.15 00:00:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:I listened too it. Seems a bit heavy in speculation.
High sec miners are indeed a threat to Eve as a whole but on a level much closer to home.
They scare away new players from Eve.
Whenever nullsec executes a major fight. Eve ends up in the news. Tens of thousands of new players are drawn to the game because of it.
But before those players even reach nullsec, they are kidnapped by the highsec carebear population and get bored out of the game before they can reach the real content.
New players arrive in a high sec system and say "wow so this is Eve huh?" then a carebear jumps on him and says "let me show you Eve" Veldspar mining. Mission running "This is Eve" he says and the player ends up believing him because everyone in earshot will confirm that these things are in fact what Eve is about.
We all live in Eve and more players are good for all of us. But while nullsec draws new players. High sec abuses their privilege of being the first people to interact with new players and use that to scare them away.
What we have to do is suppress the high sec players with violence whenever they try to corrupt new players. All the while we need to emphasize the importance of groups like RVB, Eve Uni and even Brave Collective as an alternative to get the true eve experience.
But new players can only hold their breath for so long. As Eve drops them waist deep into the noxious gases of the high sec waste pile. We need to grab their hand and pull them up into the fresh air of null sec before they suffocate. Absolutely. And your suggestions in teaching them about those player groups is very warranted.
The problem is these players are being introduced to these offer forms of gameplay by players who are primarily interested in "harvesting tears" out of them.
They are expecting a player who gets a dose of emergent gameplay to think, "gee, that looks like fun!". It is not likely to happen when the person is goading them in local, and then they find themselves on a blog being mocked and having their character defamed.
I agree with what you've said, but the solution is to first and foremost provide this form of gameplay in a much less hostile and childish way. Until that changes, it is reasonable to expect these players to think, "wtf is wrong with this kid" and ignore the styles of gameplay said kid chooses to engage in.
I was lucky that I was introduced to emergent gameplay by watching others get blown to smithereens. If I was the victim and convo'd after for the sake of my tears, I'm not sure I'd appreciate such gameplay as much. |
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